NuclearKangaroo said:
it doesn't, you keep parroting the same thing over and over
and yet you refuse to even look at anything critically
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1- well if there is a market for female characters we should eventually see a strong demand for them dont you think?[/quote]
so uh...all those scary femenazis on the internet your so scared of...they don't represent a "strong demnd"?
anyway so now we are in a circle situation, we think people don't want female protagonist, we don't make them...round and round it goes
we know for a fact developers are facing an uphill battle should they want to make a non optional female protagonist because of what publishers think, play it safe....we all know this, its not secret
we also know as far as movies go female let projects are not box office poison, make something good enough people will like, now games might be a little different from movies...but I think the audience is large enough
[quote/]2- i dont get your point here, im saying if you want your gender/race/sexual orientation to be better represented in video games you could comaplain about it... or do something about it[/quote]
"complaing" is actually a valid part of the process...again we critique our culture, and "doing something about it" is not so cut and dry
[quote/]im kinda bummed about a certain strategy subgenre i feel is not represented well enough, so im making my own game about that subgenre, see? this is how you change things[/quote]
except NOBDY tells anyone to do that when it comes up in gamign discussion
NuclearKangaroo said:
exactly it means nothing, so what if some people feel alineated? not everyone feels alienated
so what? the people who do are wrong? should shut up?
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so you are ashamed of your race/position, that cant be healthy[/quote]you'vr got to be doing this on purpose...I tried to explain it.
I did not grow up a black woman, there are aspects of society that affect black women I didn't even know about but you know what? I read about those aspects and instead of getting all defensive and shit (because waaah! the world revoles around me!) I learned about and understood it, and I'm better for it
[quote/]if your points are valid why should your race matter?[/quote]
because its one of the many things that make up your experiences and attitude of the world
I don't know what its like to come from a dysfunctional family, or to live in an unsafe country, or to never have enough food or to have parents the didn't value education, this colors my perception of [b/]certain topics[/b] and it would be very easy for me to pull a just world fallacy and act like all the problems of the poor are their own fault (because what a comforting thought that would be)
Vault101 said:
only if you let it be a big factor, again because you overthink things like race, at least in my opinion
aahhhh so now I'm overthinking things, another hand wave
and you simplify everything to avoid critical thought
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i dont think so, ive heard it all
"they are the priviledged"[/quote]
privaligde is actually a thing I've tried to explain off hand in this whole thing...though I never used the word because you start using certain words people freak out
[quote/]"it doesnt matter what they say"[/quote]
that depeeeeeeendssss!!!
[quote/]"they are the reason you live soo poorly"
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again who and the why is more complicated than that
[quote/]well then stop dismissing the argument of men as "mansplaining" seriously it does nothing to attract new friends, and while i didnt take offense, others might[/quote]
oh....oh I'm sorry I'm being mean aren't I?
I disagree (and sometimes dismiss) arguments based on whats being said first and foremost....what's being said can come from a personas background,
in other words you want to ask a female centric woman you might do well to ask...you know...a woman
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i think a work of art should be critized based on its merits as art, not on whenever it follows a certain political point of view or not[/quote]
it all goes hand in hand
what an artist is trying to get across, what the audience interprets, how art affects us and our culture its all related and important
you can actually take thease things into account while still enjoying them....I should know..I like hip hop
Birth of a nation paints a picture of a racist as fuck society, we know this, we accept this, no one defends it, just just accept it for its historical context and significance
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you sure?
http://orogion.deviantart.com/journal/Save-the-Boob-plate-380891149
a developer of divinity original sin, forced to redesign one of his characters because some people didnt like bikini armor
i dont support insults or shaming of devs because of their artistics decisions, now if a game fails as a game, by all means critize that
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the devs chose to change it, if they wanted they could have stuck to their guns....
.....its not like this was a commercial issue
oh hey about "strong demand" again....