The Force Awakens Trailer Gets Wacky "George Lucas" Version

Vigormortis

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I'm confused...

Why the hell are people white-knighting Lucas?

The man's a fucking millionaire with a household name. He doesn't need to be "defended" from criticism by some random poster on the internet.

Christ...


O.T.
The vid is hilarious. One I think more fans need to see just so they appreciate how bad this new film could have been, had it still been in the hands of ol' Georgie.

I audibly laughed at the redone opening and forest scenes.
 

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Spade Lead said:
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For those who may have missed it, this is the "Crazy Lens Flare" Edition. Only time will tell which of these two is more accurate.

I was actually genuinely surprised it DIDN'T look like this, but I just assumed he hadn't finished the CGI modifications completely.
Funny thing, but I think it could work. Hear me out before you think I am nuts: For decades, lens flares were the mark of a bad photographer, until the 80s or so, when they were used as something of a metaphor for modern society. That is, society and business were bright, made all of steel and glass, but as bright as they were, they were not warm, and they just blinded you. Filmmakers started communicating these ideas through the intentional use of flares.

Fast forward to the Star Trek reboot, and Abrams seemingly completely misinterpreted this. However if the plot involves Jedi o the "light" side of the force turning evil, then the old metaphors could actually work. Assuming Abrams showed some type of restraint with it.
 

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In this version I actually liked the stupid cross saber
Actually the cross-saber didn't bother me much because having a guard on a sword is a big advantage, and really I can't see any other way you could make one work.
The cross guard would only work if it went up to the base of the sword all the way, where you actually can catch and hook your opponent's weapon, however, it doesn't, and since light sabres can cut through anything it is a surefire way of losing you fingers.

that aside, light sabres are practically weightless, and can be turned on and off at the a second's notice, you couldn't block and hook those things in the first place.
 

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Mcoffey said:
Actually *snorts and adjusts glasses*, there are certain metals and minerals that are resistant to lightsaber blades, such as cortosis and Mandalorian iron.

And even if there weren't, it wouldn't stop that new lightsaber from looking really silly.
But if you make a crossguard out of those, why not just make the whole thing out of them? Especially corti=osis, since you'd have the advantage of switching off any lightsaber blade.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Mcoffey said:
Actually *snorts and adjusts glasses*, there are certain metals and minerals that are resistant to lightsaber blades, such as cortosis and Mandalorian iron.

And even if there weren't, it wouldn't stop that new lightsaber from looking really silly.
But if you make a crossguard out of those, why not just make the whole thing out of them? Especially corti=osis, since you'd have the advantage of switching off any lightsaber blade.
Cost, probably. Plus the villain's supposed to be into old Sith relics, which would explain why the blades actually look so jagged despite being pure energy.
 

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Cost, probably.
So they make whole swords out of the stuff, but they couldn't afford a lightsaber to have a full hilt with crosspiece?

Plus the villain's supposed to be into old Sith relics, which would explain why the blades actually look so jagged despite being pure energy.
Cortosis is primarily reliquary, if my lore does not fail me.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
silver wolf009 said:
Cost, probably.
So they make whole swords out of the stuff, but they couldn't afford a lightsaber to have a full hilt with crosspiece?

Plus the villain's supposed to be into old Sith relics, which would explain why the blades actually look so jagged despite being pure energy.
Cortosis is primarily reliquary, if my lore does not fail me.
Very rarely do they make swords out of it and it alone. Usually they lace it into the metal in what's called a Corotosis Weave to make it resistant to damage against Lightsabers, while still lacking the ability to short out the blade. At least, that's how I understand it.
 

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KazeAizen said:
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This really isn't that funny at all. Its more sad than anything.
It's an artistic choice. How dare you criticise an artist's vision?
I'm not criticizing per say. I just don't find it funny. Maybe its because I'm sick of people taking back handed swipes at Lucas.
'Per se'.

And it's kind of hard not to when he turns the force into ablood infection and portrays Darth Vader (one of the coolest villains anywhere) as having started out as a whiny man-***** with the nickname 'Annie'...
Again two things I think people got way to bent out of shape about. It was hokey but I still never understood why people were so mad about it. I viewed it as not a DNA thing but as a physical conduit that the mystical Force could act through.

As for Darth Vader its mixed. Sure he's really whiny in episode 2 but given The Clone Wars series and episode 3 his backstory is pretty cool. Also what's wrong with "Annie"?
It would have been awesome if he had finally become "Darth Annie" - or - he does the Force choke thing after someone says "What's up Annie?" (probably a Robot Chicken skit)
 

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KazeAizen said:
This really isn't that funny at all. Its more sad than anything.
Elaborate please. Its just a dig at George Lucas and the special editions of the original trilogy, what is so sad about it?
 

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Dansen said:
KazeAizen said:
This really isn't that funny at all. Its more sad than anything.
Elaborate please. Its just a dig at George Lucas and the special editions of the original trilogy, what is so sad about it?
Because the jokes themselves have been played out to death over the last two decades and its really just tired and annoying at this point.
 

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Personally, I think the lens flare on the lightsaber looks cool. If they were used at all for the Star Wars films, that's where I would hope they would be used. Not too crazy about attaching the camera to the back of the Millenium Falcon, though. It reminds me to much of J.J.'s Star Trek films. I'm not saying it's bad, just that it reminds me too much of the other franchise.

EDIT: Also, from what little is floating around about the film (most of which appears to be rumors), I'm guessing that they're co-opting Darth Revan's storyline for Luke (ie. Luke turns to the Dark Side to "save" the Republic, and winds up going back to the Light Side at some point).

I realize that many fans aren't crazy about the jokes about George Lucas, but let's be honest here, the man couldn't make up his mind about anything regarding Star Wars. He basically never stopped editing and rewriting them over the years, and some fans got pretty sick of the constant changes he felt he needed to make. Sure, that's his right as the creator of Star Wars, but come on. The constant changes, decision-making, mind-changing, backpeddling, etc, etc. got pretty frakkin' old.
 

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I showed this to my mum (who is a way bigger Star Wars nerd than me), and she couldn't tell the difference between this and the real one. At first I was horrified, thinking she'd seen the joke one first and thought it was real, but it turns out she's just going forgetful in old age.

As for the trailer itself, meh. It's kind of an old joke, and digs against George Lucas aren't that clever. There's really not much point to it other than "hey, look at how shit old CGI effects were."
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Mcoffey said:
Actually *snorts and adjusts glasses*, there are certain metals and minerals that are resistant to lightsaber blades, such as cortosis and Mandalorian iron.

And even if there weren't, it wouldn't stop that new lightsaber from looking really silly.
But if you make a crossguard out of those, why not just make the whole thing out of them? Especially corti=osis, since you'd have the advantage of switching off any lightsaber blade.
I'm unsure about the properties of cortiosis, but I would guess the lightsaber is a better multitool, with the whole destroying/melting most other metals, heatsource, lightsource, but yeah, I can see the problem of the guards not being as efficient if there aren't some saber repellent probabilities at the hilt.

I'm actually wondering if the whole crosshilted blade means a more european fighting style.
 

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Cowabungaa said:
Ryan Hughes said:
For those who may have missed it, this is the "Crazy Lens Flare" Edition. Only time will tell which of these two is more accurate.

I'm actually so damn happy that we need a Lens Flare Edition of the trailer, meaning that the actual trailer doesn't have much lens flare. And isn't that awesome?! I'm actually hopeful about the new movie now! A JJ Abrams flick without a lot of lens flare, now that'd be a treat.
I don't know man, the actual trailer only just stops short of it, like someone in post-production quietly removed it and sent it out before jayjay caught wind of it. There is still a ton of solar glare and inappropriate lighting.
 

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I had to chuckle a few times, which is fair enough is guess. Although I didn't understand the droid-behind-rocks-thing. Can someone explain, please?