The internet is going to hell?
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No. You can't choose to either be religious or not to be religious; you believe what seems most likely to be true. Yuo can't believe there is a God when as far as you know it's proven beyond doubt that He's nonexistent, and if you've seen something which to you proves that God is real, you cannot choose not to belive in something wich to you is proven to be true.LooK iTz Jinjo said:
1)I dont think it is, i think that it is the most irritating thing in the world. Its as bad as the over zealous preachers who hound you for not believing them and even shames their fellow Christians.DoW Lowen said:
2)I say, if your Christian, be proud and don't give a toss what the randoms on the internet think if they don't like it.
3)I've got three increadibly Christian friends who would shout it to the world if they could, they love it. So why should i stop em or hate em?
4)Keep looking, my friend, and you find that community.
5)I wouldn't doubt that, and it would turn most of my atheist friends Christian quickly if it were proven.
People will start a flame war, because some are not mature enough to be considerate of others personal beliefs. But then again, the ones who do react saying 'no religion is for the weak. etc' can just leave now.
Oh, and i am not christian. Agnostic. But im perfectly fine with anything really and just hate the disrespect that occurs so frequently.
You can choose to be religeous or non religeous regardless of what is proven. People change their beliefs all the time - even the church of england changed their view on darwinism saying it was "God's Plan".Queen Michael said:
While I agree with many of your points I think that shouting their beliefs to the world is inconsiderate to those who don't want christianity spouted at them. By all means praise away but I despise it when people chase me down the street trying to get me to listen to their preaching.Inconsistancies Arise said:
Neither do i, but i was more pointing out that they shout it out as a pride thing rather than a 'you should be christian' thing. Like some PC gamers saying that they are proud to be that way but don't say that it is the greatest thing ever and that everyone else sucks cause they don't agree.Jirlond said:
Such as a shame that admitting an belief is generally more offensive than kicking the balls of the guy who believes it. Or girl, I would say vagina but I'm childish.... ehehehe - vagina.naab said:
Kind of a double edge sword don't you think? Sure ideas spread around, and some of them are good, but the internet at the same time manages to ooze an excessive amount of bile and stupidity. I wouldn't really say it is reason, just ideas and some ideas are terrible.samaritan.squirrel said:
Still even anonymously, people have a need to be liked. I've seen people I've known in real life and seen them on forums as a different person. Perhaps #3 isn't quite right, you'd think with the identity mask of the net, people would be screaming their deepest beliefs and secrets left-right and center. I agree that if you truly believe something you should stand up for it, but sometimes it's easier for a person to shut up and not deal with pointless arguments. Really in the end though, I don't see the need to argue with people over beliefs, the most important arguments are with yourself.Borrowed Time said:
Perhaps "breeding ground" would be a better choice. And many atheists are there by choice, but not necessarily through research and experience. Some simply.... don't like the way churches are run, and they feel that denouncing the church is the same as denouncing a higher being. When down inside I think everybody at the very least WANTS to believe in something more. So perhaps people are more agnostic?LooK iTz Jinjo said:
Not OT, but thought I'd comment. Charity is contextual and circumstantial. When the tsunami's hit Asia, charity from around the world helped immensely. When governments gave Africa billions of dollars to help them out, the government there instead lived in luxury and oppressed the people beneath them into killing each other over working toilets. Economy shouldn't be taken into account, because if the economy should never be taken at face value, not many people would agree but charity is used to established a country's economy and allow more intervention from other countries.Queen Michael said:
What I'm leading up to is that many, not all, but many charities have a second agenda. When religions move into third world countries they do so with the the purpose of helping others, true. But at the same time with the bread and butter they provide they also spread the word of the bible, and I've seen how they operate. They aren't very subtle or gentle about it, not to say they are threatening... just sneaky. If you're starving and the only think you've eaten is peeled skin from your face than you're willing to say and do a lot of things for some food. And the charities that go over there are very well aware of this. Which goes to show there is no such thing as altruistic behavior.
I've babbled long enough, basically make sure you donate to the right charities because many of them are full of s***! Support fair trade, animal rights and Aryan cleansing. Whoops did I add that last part?
I think the anonymity of the internet does help contribute to this. Because you're just an unknown entity, you can say whatever you like about religion, so atheists just constantly bash religion as a result. With all this hatred going round, theists decide to avoid fighting to avoid getting into hatred and flame wars as a result. And those who do decide to fight just get flamed upon as well, so there is a lot off Bible hating etc. I do find this to be a real shame though, as I'm always interested in learning about religion (being an agnostic with mainly ateist friends, I don't usually see much of a theist's view) and rarely get the chance as a result.
