Jaw like a brick wall was a great line. I've really liked this arc, but it gives me a sense of impending doom as her problems are clearly getting worse.
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There was a study done once where non-alcoholic drinks were given out at a party labelled as alcoholic. The party goers all acted like they were drinking alcoholic drinks. The placebo effect is a very powerful thing.Devoneaux said:Honestly it just raises more questions, like how did Link bring her those drinks? If he didn't was she only just pretend drunk? How would that even work?Rijor said:All I have to point to...
'Dude, I've been rubbing the fuck out of your leg for, like, the past 10 minutes! Wait, that's my leg...'
Makes so much sense now!
I'm with Devoneaux on this one, the biggest problem isn't that it went on too long, wasn't funny, or had physics that aren't 100% realistic (really, guys? Did you do this with Fight Club too?), but that it was a really uncompelling story. Link's behaviour now makes more sense when you go back and read the arc again, but Erin started as an unfunny, unlikeable asshole and ended as an unfunny, unlikeable asshole that solves her problems with violence. We've learned that her inner child is smarter than she is (apparently) and that she has no reasonable idea of how to react to a situation.
This arc could have actually been really good. I was pleasantly surprised by the twist at the end, and the idea that parts of her psyche are competing with each other to take control is a good one. "The Erin Stout way is to come back swinging" makes for a great way to climax and end a scene, too, and a takes-no-crap shoulder-angel (so to speak) could prove a very interesting character. The script needed serious tightening up, though, and none of the issues were handled in a way that made me root for the main character, simply because she didn't seem to have any emotional register other than "Sarcastic quip! I'm an angry *****!"
That's my two cents. The kind of two cents that makes people come after you with pointed sticks that are on fire, but two cents nonetheless.
This arc could have actually been really good. I was pleasantly surprised by the twist at the end, and the idea that parts of her psyche are competing with each other to take control is a good one. "The Erin Stout way is to come back swinging" makes for a great way to climax and end a scene, too, and a takes-no-crap shoulder-angel (so to speak) could prove a very interesting character. The script needed serious tightening up, though, and none of the issues were handled in a way that made me root for the main character, simply because she didn't seem to have any emotional register other than "Sarcastic quip! I'm an angry *****!"
That's my two cents. The kind of two cents that makes people come after you with pointed sticks that are on fire, but two cents nonetheless.
so she doesn't hallucinate exclusively with videogame protagonists anymore, where will this end?
So, we have to actually worry MORE about her sanity, after all this. Also, characters that only exist in your head can have conversations without you seeing them (and they can change clothes, too), apparently... I guess Erin really is a Goddess, and her dreams become alive... That doesn't sound good for the future of humanity.
The real problem here is that we seem to have gone full circle, nothing lost, nothing gained, so this arc sounds even more pointless, thanks to this "twist-that-wasn't-exactly-a-twist-since-many-people-called-this-before-and-the-only-reason-they-stopped-believing-it-was-that-it-would-make-the-story-even-more-absurd-which-it-did" (I don't know how you call this, but I wouldn't mind calling it "lemon" or "pachinko", these words have a nice sound).
The fact that it might be a Fight Club reference (Fight Club isn't the first time I saw such a concept, so I am not sure if one necessarily thinks of it whenever one tries this idea), isn't a good excuse, I don't think it's done very well (I can pull a twist like this whenever I like, I just need to add "it was all more or less a dream", but the hints must be there to make it valuable, at least in hindsight... There aren't any worth being called hints, just some foreshadowing when Link said "maybe your subconscious is trying to help you out").
The real problem here is that we seem to have gone full circle, nothing lost, nothing gained, so this arc sounds even more pointless, thanks to this "twist-that-wasn't-exactly-a-twist-since-many-people-called-this-before-and-the-only-reason-they-stopped-believing-it-was-that-it-would-make-the-story-even-more-absurd-which-it-did" (I don't know how you call this, but I wouldn't mind calling it "lemon" or "pachinko", these words have a nice sound).
The fact that it might be a Fight Club reference (Fight Club isn't the first time I saw such a concept, so I am not sure if one necessarily thinks of it whenever one tries this idea), isn't a good excuse, I don't think it's done very well (I can pull a twist like this whenever I like, I just need to add "it was all more or less a dream", but the hints must be there to make it valuable, at least in hindsight... There aren't any worth being called hints, just some foreshadowing when Link said "maybe your subconscious is trying to help you out").
I'm sort of in the same boat as the above guy. Was any of that real? This is as bad as an "It was all a dream!" ending.Clearing the Eye said:
Don't worry, it's not like it REALLY is Link. It could have been anyone, frankly, they probably just liked the idea of using Link (how Erin can't recognize the Link from her imagination is a totally different question).Kapol said:
It would have been fun having Kratos in a suit as a disguise, instead of using Link, though... That's a missed opportunity.
???
THAT WAS LINK!?
Seriously, I didnt see that coming.
So, does this mean that Erin is not gonna be seeing and/or listening to videogame characters again? If so, then let the rebuilding phase begin...
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ninja'd
THAT WAS LINK!?
Seriously, I didnt see that coming.
So, does this mean that Erin is not gonna be seeing and/or listening to videogame characters again? If so, then let the rebuilding phase begin...
*Edit*
*long string of explitives*saintdane05 said:
ninja'd
Huzzah the madness has been doubled!
Aww I feel kind of bad for Erin I thought she was getting a love interest there.
Aww I feel kind of bad for Erin I thought she was getting a love interest there.
I just... Why did she flirt with him and start a fight for his attention after only seconds earlier telling him to fuck off? Yeah, she's a complex character, that's super. But frosty people don't drop their guard and proclaim their wanting to fuck you after a few minutes of meeting you. If it was all in her mind, how did he cause her to look inward? Why did she imagine it with her having a bunch of fights and being held out a window? WHY DID ANY OF THIS HAPPEN? I just don't get it! *sob*itsthesheppy said:
I feel like they just made a bunch of random scenes
Incidentally, I liked Fight Club up until it started becoming pretentious and full of pseudo-political quasi-psychologism bullshit. Which is the former half of the movie.The Last Melon said:
All in all, even though this twist does kind of "save" the arc, it still doesn't make it good. Plot holes aside, my problem is that the story and characters just aren't compelling; I mean what was the point of this whole arc? What has changed? What has evolved? What did Erin learn? It's almost appalling that Link, a figment of her imagination, got a huge load of character development, mainly thanks to this "twist", but Erin still didn't even come close to even tangling with her own problems.
All that was unresolved before is still unresolved, Erin learned absolutely nothing and she's in no better position than before and all of her relationships with real people are still where they were left. Hell, her imaginary friends talk and behave a lot more like real people than she does.
^_^ i was among them. pretty sure i was the first person to comment on it when he showed up in the story.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
i know i was first page. If anyone cares enough to cite it.
I THOUGHT that guy looked like Link in the first comic! Way to make me completely forget about my original guess.
I actually like where this plot went. It makes it less creepy in a "holy crap who is this weirdo" kind of way and more creepy in a "holy crap her psyche is taking over her mind!" Which is the better kind of creepy.
Good ending!
I actually like where this plot went. It makes it less creepy in a "holy crap who is this weirdo" kind of way and more creepy in a "holy crap her psyche is taking over her mind!" Which is the better kind of creepy.
Good ending!
