You've never seen the Oedipus complex have you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_complex ( then again this was developed by Freud who was a bit of a fruitcake.)manicfoot said:
The Ladder Theory (another relationship thread)
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Wow, I think I'm actually slightly offended (for once).
I hate that the author of that crock of shit (because that's what it is) thinks that ALL women are like that. This man has obviously been dumped by some hot chick because he was a cynical douche.
/rant
Ok, maybe I'm just different from normal girls, but my current boyfriend who I'm absolutely in love with, I met on Gears of War. I talked to him and started really digging him before I even KNEW WHAT HE LOOKED like. So that pie chart talking about how looks were like what, 30%(?) is bullshit. Also, he's got a job, but he's definately not raking in the dough, I won't even let him pay for things half the time because he has to pay for school loans, so the 50% money and power goes out of the window as well.
I based my whole love on Jeremy (my boyfriend) on his humor, charm and how he always seems to make me smile and be happy, which was 10% on the chart.
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I'm also surprised that a lot of escapist guys aren't a little offended by this. He's basically saying that every girl you're around you want to fuck, not matter what. So basically, the girl that you're friends with that you have NO romantic feelings for, according to this guy, you wanna fuck her.
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So author of this thread, that is kind of insulting to both genders. Maybe you didn't read the article clearly enough? Or maybe it's the fact that that site makes my whole gender seem like bitches. *shrugs*
It's pretty weak, I must say.
I hate that the author of that crock of shit (because that's what it is) thinks that ALL women are like that. This man has obviously been dumped by some hot chick because he was a cynical douche.
/rant
Ok, maybe I'm just different from normal girls, but my current boyfriend who I'm absolutely in love with, I met on Gears of War. I talked to him and started really digging him before I even KNEW WHAT HE LOOKED like. So that pie chart talking about how looks were like what, 30%(?) is bullshit. Also, he's got a job, but he's definately not raking in the dough, I won't even let him pay for things half the time because he has to pay for school loans, so the 50% money and power goes out of the window as well.
I based my whole love on Jeremy (my boyfriend) on his humor, charm and how he always seems to make me smile and be happy, which was 10% on the chart.
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I'm also surprised that a lot of escapist guys aren't a little offended by this. He's basically saying that every girl you're around you want to fuck, not matter what. So basically, the girl that you're friends with that you have NO romantic feelings for, according to this guy, you wanna fuck her.
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So author of this thread, that is kind of insulting to both genders. Maybe you didn't read the article clearly enough? Or maybe it's the fact that that site makes my whole gender seem like bitches. *shrugs*
It's pretty weak, I must say.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I saw the entire thing as a big satire. I laughed at a lot of parts and the generalizations seemed so wildly over the top that I felt a sarcastic tone.
I don't know, maybe I'm just stupid.
EDIT: Yep, I'm stupid. Q/A in the end denies the site being a satire. Oh well, I still laughed.
I don't know, maybe I'm just stupid.
EDIT: Yep, I'm stupid. Q/A in the end denies the site being a satire. Oh well, I still laughed.
I don't believe that person has ever read any unbias published sociology, psychology or biology papers on intimate / friend relationships.
Also he lost all credibility with me when he started using crass language and statistics that were not backed up by proven evidence.
In simple terms... what a crock of sh**.
Also he lost all credibility with me when he started using crass language and statistics that were not backed up by proven evidence.
In simple terms... what a crock of sh**.
LOL, I just realized... That whole site is a big joke.
*feels stupid*
Hahahahaha.
I figured it was a joke because of his little "Q&A" thing he had at the end, and the list of songs at the end. Hahaha.
I mean the pie charts with no scientific data was one thing, but the above mentioned stuff really made me see that it's a joke. Bwahahahaha.
*feels stupid*
Hahahahaha.
I figured it was a joke because of his little "Q&A" thing he had at the end, and the list of songs at the end. Hahaha.
I mean the pie charts with no scientific data was one thing, but the above mentioned stuff really made me see that it's a joke. Bwahahahaha.
Hahahahaha.TheMatt said:
The two professors who wrote it.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH.
I think your comment, sir, is the funniest thing I've heard all day.
Is it just me or does the author seem to have no real experiance with real women?
I'm not the most attractive guy around, but I'm quite nice, so I generally get on quite well with girls. The only problem I have really had any experience with is that unless you show a degree of interest from the start, most girls will put you down as a friend and get on with their lives. Sometimes feelings develop, sometimes not. I've generally found that relationships that have formed from people previously being friends and then finding out they had feelings for what the other person is actually like, rather than just both sides being hot.
And either way, the examples that he gives to what the woman does afterwards are slightly sexist. I don't know many women who would deliberately go for a drunk guy/ biker dude/ etc. Unless they were drunk, or complete chavs/whores. I think they just need to find some girls with more personality than a cardboard cut-out.
Well he probably won't get too far up the ladder.bluepilot said:
I'm not the most attractive guy around, but I'm quite nice, so I generally get on quite well with girls. The only problem I have really had any experience with is that unless you show a degree of interest from the start, most girls will put you down as a friend and get on with their lives. Sometimes feelings develop, sometimes not. I've generally found that relationships that have formed from people previously being friends and then finding out they had feelings for what the other person is actually like, rather than just both sides being hot.
And either way, the examples that he gives to what the woman does afterwards are slightly sexist. I don't know many women who would deliberately go for a drunk guy/ biker dude/ etc. Unless they were drunk, or complete chavs/whores. I think they just need to find some girls with more personality than a cardboard cut-out.
It's an utterly absurd "theory", that no-one who'd had a relationship that went further than "dating" would ever believe.
If someone believed it was generally accurate but with exceptions, I'd say they were cynical and sexist.
If someone believed it applied universally, I'd say they ought to have their thinking privileges revoked.
If someone believed it was generally accurate but with exceptions, I'd say they were cynical and sexist.
If someone believed it applied universally, I'd say they ought to have their thinking privileges revoked.
Just so there's no misconception that this is in fact a real theory..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladder_theory
The first sentence says it all. It's pseudoscience and cannot be mistaken for actual fact.
=P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladder_theory
The first sentence says it all. It's pseudoscience and cannot be mistaken for actual fact.
=P
Oh, that's so funny. Whoever made that is so hilariously bitter. So he's saying you can't be friends with hot girls and then if you give a girl a hug when she's upset that makes you her *****?
OOOOOOkay.
OOOOOOkay.
Because whoever made this was bitter and jaded? It's very simple. I hate people like whoever made that website.aprilmarie said:
I think this theory may have some merit to it *prepares flamesheild*
I don't think it's any coincidence that most people go out with others who are not within their own social group. My ex was not off my social group, nor is my mates current girlfreind from of his own social circle either. I also heard a saying go "Familiarity is the enemy of intermacy" as well as songs like "nice guys finish last" and i recall some lyrics which go "your best friend is not your girlfriend".
It is true with me, and from what i know, true with other males is that we would happily screw females from our own social circle. If females would happily screw males in their social circle as well then the general pattern would be that we find partners from within our own social circle rather than what is appears generally true and we tend to find partners outside our social circle.
So this would anecdotal evidence, and i would assume there is a lot of it, would support ladder theory, but not prove it.
I, like other males here, disagree with the fact that we can not be freinds with women because men have one mental ladder as opposed to two. Rather, i think men have two ladders like women, but males put the same woman on both the sex interest ladder and the friendship ladder. Whereass women make a more clear distinction between a freind and a potential partner. Males seem to be placed on one ladder or the other, whereass men put women on both ladders.
I don't see anything sexist about that, the thing is though that it lacks much scientific evidence.
I don't think it's any coincidence that most people go out with others who are not within their own social group. My ex was not off my social group, nor is my mates current girlfreind from of his own social circle either. I also heard a saying go "Familiarity is the enemy of intermacy" as well as songs like "nice guys finish last" and i recall some lyrics which go "your best friend is not your girlfriend".
It is true with me, and from what i know, true with other males is that we would happily screw females from our own social circle. If females would happily screw males in their social circle as well then the general pattern would be that we find partners from within our own social circle rather than what is appears generally true and we tend to find partners outside our social circle.
So this would anecdotal evidence, and i would assume there is a lot of it, would support ladder theory, but not prove it.
I, like other males here, disagree with the fact that we can not be freinds with women because men have one mental ladder as opposed to two. Rather, i think men have two ladders like women, but males put the same woman on both the sex interest ladder and the friendship ladder. Whereass women make a more clear distinction between a freind and a potential partner. Males seem to be placed on one ladder or the other, whereass men put women on both ladders.
I don't see anything sexist about that, the thing is though that it lacks much scientific evidence.
Yeah, I have heard that theory before. I think it's nonsense for relationships, but I am starting to apply it to car ownership.
Basically, on the Ladder Consequences page, he talks about how the meaning of life is to move up the ladder and sleep with progressively more attractive women. Every woman you sleep with should be hotter than the last one. Well, I'm applying that to the cars I own. Each car I buy will be at least slightly better than the last one. I started by driving a Pontiac Sunfire bucket of crap. I'm now driving a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP, which is a fantastic automobile, or at least way better than a Sunfire. For my next car I am aiming at a BMW 1-- series. If I like that one and start earning more money, I might move up to a 3 or 5 series, or a newer 1.
Or, here's an idea: you should look for a woman who is 'the whole package', my current girlfriend is smart, funny, has a great personality and is really pretty. She's not a supermodel, she's cute, but there's more to women than how pretty they are.
Basically, on the Ladder Consequences page, he talks about how the meaning of life is to move up the ladder and sleep with progressively more attractive women. Every woman you sleep with should be hotter than the last one. Well, I'm applying that to the cars I own. Each car I buy will be at least slightly better than the last one. I started by driving a Pontiac Sunfire bucket of crap. I'm now driving a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP, which is a fantastic automobile, or at least way better than a Sunfire. For my next car I am aiming at a BMW 1-- series. If I like that one and start earning more money, I might move up to a 3 or 5 series, or a newer 1.
Or, here's an idea: you should look for a woman who is 'the whole package', my current girlfriend is smart, funny, has a great personality and is really pretty. She's not a supermodel, she's cute, but there's more to women than how pretty they are.
Whoever wrote this obviously never had a girlfriend.
I doubt he had friends at all.
This guy basically says that everybody is a fucking whore. How nice.
Or maybe, he was just ironic all the way. But it worked out badly nonetheless.
I doubt he had friends at all.
This guy basically says that everybody is a fucking whore. How nice.
Or maybe, he was just ironic all the way. But it worked out badly nonetheless.
