It was a fun read, but the theory really isn't completely correct. It states that males can only be friends with females if they A) consider the females ugly, B) have someone better to sleep with or C) are gay. I had about 10 female friends last year to which A, B and C where all not applicable and yet even if I'm completely honest with myself I wouldn't sleep with them even if they offered themselves to me - with some, I possibly would, just because I got the opportunity, but definitely not for all of them.
The Ladder Theory (another relationship thread)
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"one of them teaches at Harvard" care to share a link before you call me a dumbass?TheMatt said:
Oh, this article has also been claimed to be "pseudoscientic" so even if a harvard professor said it, it doesn't make it fact.
So careful who you call a dumbass before you look like a dumbass yourself.
I don't see why you emailed it, either the guy sees your point and neglects it because he thinks you're lying or he neglects it because he'll consider you that small exception. Based on his writing he's not the type to dump this theory without some major change in his life.aprilmarie said:
It probably was and it does seem like he's just bitter in writing. But I do agree with him on the some of the points (not that they were particularly revolutionary or needed the 'statistical proof' we get when we're doing first year maths, but I did find they helped get on with the reading)rossatdi said:
That's cause it is very one sided, I don't believe the pie charts and so on, (though I did find many of them entertaining) the websites more of a tool to bring up the idea that girls have 'two ladders', guys have one, and more often then not they'll say how 'nice' you are having scaled to the top of 1 'ladder' and then you look across at the next to see everyone she's ever complained to you about sitting up the top. There's no one I believe to be able to read that and not have an opinion, so its also a cheap way to bring in a discussion.the1ultimate said:
(I'll probably edit as I post more responses cause I gotta go. Happy hunting
Though just before i leave...)
If you wrote a large rant you should have definitely included it with your summary. Its like writing evidence for a maths test. (you know the answer, you just gotta justify it with working, otherwise its just a dull post =])CargoHold said:
Ah, the old "bitterness toward women because they resent him & women resent him because he's bitter" syndrome. It's a viscious cycle, and I personally know a few dudes that suffer from it.
Whoever wrote this is stupid.
Whoever wrote this is stupid.
Oh okay, I didn't think anyone would want to read my rant. And funnily enough, that's always how I failed maths tests. Thanks for the encouragement!Kurokami said:
Weelll. The 'women only want rich guys' argument is stupid. It doesn't matter to me or anyone I know, but we're all students and have no money anyway. In any case, I think they fail to take into account different related variables-
Rich men with power are more likely to be:
Confident
Ambitious
In financially stable job/able to support a family
And other typically masculine traits.
I think it's reasonable to assume that more than 50% of women want a masculine man. [That being said, I don't because I prefer to wear the pants, but I'm odd.] In which case, they will hone in on men with masculine traits, and men with masculine traits like the above are more likely to be successful in corporate and highly money-oriented jobs. [Generally you don't find super-ambitious men working at KFC counters.] Besides, I don't see why an impersonal trait such as wealth would be attractive on its own, unless there's an exchange of money involved. Which is prostitution and not attraction anyway.
And I think the idea of a male friend never escaping the friend zone is absurd. I had a very close male friend from the beginning of high school, and in that time I was in a relationship with a [different] guy for nearly 3 years. My friend told me that he had always felt for me, despire me being with the boyfriend- this didn't change anything, if anything it made us closer. A year and a half later and towards the end of highschool, I had two [independent] realisations- first that I had outgrown my first boyfriend, and soon after I accepted that I wanted to be with my close friend.
Note that they were separate events, I didn't want to be with my friend because I didn't want to be with my boyfriend or vice versa.
My friend and I have been together for nearly a year now, and it's fantastic. He's a genuinely nice guy and I love him to bits. The long history between us has made us really close, and I still feel like we're best friends as well. My relationship with my first boyfriend was more exciting [I guess that's the unfamiliarity/familiarity thing], but didn't have that foundation of friendship I guess.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is that relationships based on long friendships are rewarding and as such do happen, and to say that good guys finish last because women are petty offends me somewhat.
Also, the guy's a misogynistic douche.
In short- pathetic.
Im on the second page and im already bullshting the ladder thoery! Specifically the first two charts, which are complete bollocks, they only work if you either live in the playboy mansion or a complete dick. Fuck it, im not even going to glance at page 3 lol
Sorry i lost my rag, but that is one cynical, sexist and stereojudgmental theory that looks like it was based on the working of Sex and the city.
Sorry i lost my rag, but that is one cynical, sexist and stereojudgmental theory that looks like it was based on the working of Sex and the city.