Even with a Poe's law note I still must explain I was being sarcastic and hyperbolic. Then witness a nonexistent straw man being attacked as such.
weirdee's representation seemed to me to be nothing but antagonistic blather not worthy of direct acknowledgement or reply from me. If there was a point in it, I missed it through the inflammatory wording.
However, not every white person had anything to do with slavery. Not everyone of African descent in America has ancestors enslaved by Americans. Trevor Noah and Barack Obama neither have ancestors that were enslaved by Americans. Slavery is not just a white black issue- its a humankind throughout history issue. How about them Aztec sacrificial slaves? How about many nations and powers throughout history. People can be absolutely horrible if you give them a chance.
If we wish to portray groups for their atrocities, every race and practically every nation is guilty of something horrible. The common narrative of "white people bad" ignores the slavery rape murder and other atrocities performed by africans, asians, and practically every group of humans that obtained power. The fact that you only display atrocities performed by white people while ignoring allt he atrocities performed against white people or by non-white people against each other (study history EVERY race has done horrific acts. Stop being racist and trying to put the onus on one group) What about the fact that slavery was legal in parts of Africa until 2007?
If you wish to associate white people with the worst of their atrocities, then we should associate all groups with their worst acts. No one comes out clean. History is practically a very long horrible snuff film if you wish to be grim and fatalistic about it.
Why associate them with the thrall herders and not the thralls themselves? The accusations of unfair demonizing seem to have some merit because of the imbalance of portrayal. Those who had ancestors who were yeomen or indentured servants were not the group that benefited from slavery. In fact, their quality of life was reduced because they had to compete with slaves. Poor white people suffered from the actions of the rich then got painted with the same brush as they were.
If you want people to stop getting so defensive when certain issues are addressed then perhaps you need to work on how offensively those issues are brought up. People act like they've been blamed if you word things like they're at fault. The issue of blame and retribution comes up so often when discussions of systematic inequity appear that to be defensive is logical.
To try and give people crap for not representing minorities in a European game is ignorant and almost racist. Not every game with depictions of white people is about American white people. Holding games depicting Europe (or fictional Europe-like areas) to the same standard of diversity as a game featuring Americans (or fictional portrayals of organizations with american values) shows the issues and ignorance at hand.
Love to see a game where you have to fight off the North African Barbary pirates who liked to go to small European villages and murder or enslave the entire populace. Ever wonder why there were white sex slaves in North African harems? Oh wait, I forgot, only white people are evil and took slaves.
Trying to point out that other disenfranchised people have systemic power because of the color of their skin but ignoring the fact that they are disenfranchised is ignorance. Not everyone enjoys those privileges equally. Saying that being a male is automatically a position of power ignores the fact that we are statistically more likely to be the victims of non-reciprocated domestic violence, die earlier, twice as likely to go to prison for the same crime as a woman, and get significantly longer sentences. All the other imbalances such as pay gap and professional employment (which is rapidly changing due to the fact that more women a re in college) are real issues but I think they aren't more of a concern than the prison and death issues men face. To say women are more oppressed is to ignore what men suffer and vice versa. Let both groups deal with their various hurdles without assigning systemic blame. This shouldn't be oppression olympics or a contest. You can bring up your systemic issues but to portray them solely as the fault of one group is to ignore the back and forth of history.
If you give one of those mass dissection point by point replies, don't wait for a reply.
Companies have the right to alter/censor/regulate/police their workshop. I don't think they should have the obligation (besides basic copyright infringement, illegality etc) and certainly shouldn't be held accountable for what a third party did as a mod. Its like holding Matt Groening accountable for every viewpoint on a Bart Simpsons t-shirt, especially the bootleg ones. I feel bad for Paradox. It looks like they're trying to please everyone, which usually assuages no one. They seemed hypocritical for a bit, but then allowed the guy to put his mod back up after he pitched a fit about the seeming hypocrisy and removed the links. Trying to make everyone happy ends up having the opposite effect.
