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I think The Little Mermaid is growing on me as the best of the Disney Princess movies.
Glad you're enjoying it. I could never get into The Little Mermaid. I saw it a couple times, but I never felt need to watch it again after that. Definitely not my favorite of the Disney princess movies.
 

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Been watching That Time I was Reincarnated as a Slime. Its not the best looking show, but damn its just so much fun and has some really great characters and neat world building, like kinda literally since its almost more about creating a civilization then anything else.
 

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Yeah, there's an animated show of it. 2 seasons of it, actually. And all you need to know is there's an episode where the KKK and the Black Pumas not Black Panthers, cuz Huey P. Newton is real litigious, you dig? team up to kill black pornstars to prevent a interracial porn flick from being made.
 

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Black Dynamite

Yeah, there's an animated show of it. 2 seasons of it, actually. And all you need to know is there's an episode where the KKK and the Black Pumas not Black Panthers, cuz Huey P. Newton is real litigious, you dig? team up to kill black pornstars to prevent a interracial porn flick from being made.
It sucks that that show never got a third season, but at least it's all watchable on HBO Max. I'll have to remind myself to get the box sets later.
 

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Black Dynamite

Yeah, there's an animated show of it. 2 seasons of it, actually. And all you need to know is there's an episode where the KKK and the Black Pumas not Black Panthers, cuz Huey P. Newton is real litigious, you dig? team up to kill black pornstars to prevent a interracial porn flick from being made.
I can't tell if that sounds stupid or hilarious. Also, I'm trying to imagine the KKK and the Black Panthers...Pumas being in a room together and not trying to kill each other.
 
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Black Dynamite

Yeah, there's an animated show of it. 2 seasons of it, actually. And all you need to know is there's an episode where the KKK and the Black Pumas not Black Panthers, cuz Huey P. Newton is real litigious, you dig? team up to kill black pornstars to prevent a interracial porn flick from being made.
I watched the cartoon before the movie, was pretty great. An excellent spin off.

OT: Star Wars Visions has a terrible fucking English dub, which is bizzare because they got Hollywood actors to voice some characters. Just... terrible.

Of the three episodes I've watched so far, only one would I call particularly good. I was really disappointed with the episode made by Studio Trigger.
 

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Star Wars (the films and shows, at least) is a setting that takes place over 100's of planets, across 3 generations, and yet everybody somehow seems to know everybody else on a first-name basis.

Its wild how you can pick pretty much any random Star Wars character, and link them to just about any other random Star Wars character, just through the relationships they have.

The galaxy far, far away, has started to feel awfully small, these past few years.
I did not watch the episodes in order and picked what I found interesting. My favorites are The Duel, 9th Jedi, The Twins (done by Studio Trigger), and The Village. Duel and 9th Jedi deserve their own spin-off or mini series! This is the most I've been excited for SW. Disney, put this shit out on Blu Ray for the holidays. I will buy!
 

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I watched the cartoon before the movie, was pretty great. An excellent spin off.

OT: Star Wars Visions has a terrible fucking English dub, which is bizzare because they got Hollywood actors to voice some characters. Just... terrible.

Of the three episodes I've watched so far, only one would I call particularly good. I was really disappointed with the episode made by Studio Trigger.
I disagree, it matched my expectations. Spectacle is what they're known for, and they delivered. They can do characterization well, but it takes more than a one shot 20 minute episode. I would not mind if they did a spin-off from The Twins, but that is not gonna happen.
 

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I disagree, it matched my expectations. Spectacle is what they're known for, and they delivered. They can do characterization well, but it takes more than a one shot 20 minute episode. I would not mind if they did a spin-off from The Twins, but that is not gonna happen.
I wanted MORE spectacle. Felt really tame, especially for a one off. I would have thought they'd go all out. Didn't help again that I watched it in dub, Jesus Christ did that make the exposition intolerable. I'm going to watch it again with the Japanese version this time, maybe I'll enjoy it more.
 

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I wanted MORE spectacle. Felt really tame, especially for a one off. I would have thought they'd go all out. Didn't help again that I watched it in dub, Jesus Christ did that make the exposition intolerable. I'm going to watch it again with the Japanese version this time, maybe I'll enjoy it more.
The dub was fine for me. As for spectacle, I'm sorry, but nothing can top nor match the crazy shit that went on in Kill La Kill or Promare. And I am all the more glad for it.

Studio Trigger did The Elder episode too, and that one is less stylized (lacking the Promare look) and goes for a more grounded approach in its action. There's actually more characterization there, and the episode is only 1minute shorter than The Twins. I admit they do a slightly better job in The Elder, than The Twins in characterization, and the actions surprisingly works, because it does not go for the over-the-top style they are known for. I do recommend The Elder, but don't expect the action be like Trigger's past works.
 

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OT: Star Wars Visions has a terrible fucking English dub, which is bizzare because they got Hollywood actors to voice some characters. Just... terrible.
Live action acting and voice acting for animation are altogether different disciplines of acting. Being good at one does not necessarily mean you're good at the other. That said, afaik a sizeable number of the actors who worked on this have done voice work, so they should know what they're doing.

Maybe the problem lay with the direction the actors got? Afaik, none of the directors are native English speakers, so maybe this was a case of language and/or cultural barriers, with the director not being able to properly convey his intentions, or vice versa, the actors not being able to properly understand them.
 

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Live action acting and voice acting for animation are altogether different disciplines of acting. Being good at one does not necessarily mean you're good at the other.
No, I didn't expect anything from them just because they're Hollywood actors. I meant they evidently had the budget and the time (which most anime don't) to get Hollywood actors, so why still couldn't they do the dub right? Although admittedly I only really hated the dub for that music episode. Everything else was just kinda lackluster.

Maybe the problem lay with the direction the actors got? Afaik, none of the directors are native English speakers, so maybe this was a case of language and/or cultural barriers, with the director not being able to properly convey his intentions, or vice versa, the actors not being able to properly understand them.
Perhaps. I have no idea how dubbing works, especially for a show such as this and during these times. But ever since I finished Castlevania, I've had a much higher expectation for anime dubs. I thought if anyone would wanna get it right, it's Disney for their first Star Wars anime.
 

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Watching Monster for the third time, episode 46 of 74. Even if you take issue with the main plot, there are so many episodes that are gems. Some splendid characterization with people who appear in only one episode or a few. Stories of humanity. I had forgotten after twelve years. I had almost forgotten why it's one of my favorites.

This is the Japanese DVD version, which has no English subs. Meaning I have to use external fansubs. I have criticized fansubs a lot and this is another prime example of why I dislike them in general. How dumb or weirdly obsessive do you have to be to subtitle the Czechoslovakian speech when the foreigner Grimmer is in a situation in which he doesn't understand and is scared (of the men with guns)? It's not like the Japanese viewers would understand what the men outside the room are talking about. The fansubbers have no taste for this kind of stuff.
 

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I thought if anyone would wanna get it right, it's Disney for their first Star Wars anime.
I don't know about that, considering What If? wasn't exactly brilliant either, in either the voice acting department or the actual animation, and the MCU is arguably the biggest game in town right now.
 
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Perhaps. I have no idea how dubbing works, especially for a show such as this and during these times. But ever since I finished Castlevania, I've had a much higher expectation for anime dubs. I thought if anyone would wanna get it right, it's Disney for their first Star Wars anime.
Castlevania was written by english speakers though, right? I think that's the key difference. Japan writes differently, because they speak very differently due to how different their social interactions are compared to the west. A lot of exposition, zero sarcasm, very different character archetypes. English is always going sound a bit peculiar by way of anime.
 

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I don't know about that, considering What If? wasn't exactly brilliant either, in either the voice acting department or the actual animation, and the MCU is arguably the biggest game in town right now.
I guess I assumed after The Mandalorian, they'd want to to maintain the premium feeling of the Star Wars content they put out on Disney+. The Bad Batch wasn't the greatest thing ever, but it did look beautiful at times and was most definitely a step above most other 3D animated shows.

Castlevania was written by english speakers though, right? I think that's the key difference. Japan writes differently, because they speak very differently due to how different their social interactions are compared to the west. A lot of exposition, zero sarcasm, very different character archetypes. English is always going sound a bit peculiar by way of anime.
That's a fair point, although I'd still say with enough time and effort, dubs can be pulled off well (or at least better than what we usually get). I don't think they really bothered with this show.

OT: Watched the rest of Visions. Some good episodes, some meh episodes. I dunno, I think I was hoping for more. It was cool to get the slower, more atmospheric episodes, but it didn't scratch my sakuga itch. Genndy's Clone Wars feels more crazy, balls to the wall shounen anime than any of the action focused episodes.

Also, did Disney make them focus on Jedi, lightsabers, and kyber crystals??? I mean, I love a katana lightsaber as much as the next guy, but it lost its impact the third time around. Pretty much no dogfighting either, which is rare for Star Wars content.
 

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Also, did Disney make them focus on Jedi, lightsabers, and kyber crystals??? I mean, I love a katana lightsaber as much as the next guy, but it lost its impact the third time around. Pretty much no dogfighting either, which is rare for Star Wars content.
Yeah, you'd think Japan would love to get their Marcoss on with some of those Star Wars ships.

But hey, at least we still have this beauty.

 

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Yeah, you'd think Japan would love to get their Marcoss on with some of those Star Wars ships.

But hey, at least we still have this beauty.

I remember this dropping and totally believing it was official. The dude is crazy talented, its great that his work blew up after all these years.
 
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Mmmm, I love that 80's style shading. A lot of modern anime, even high budget, looks flat by comparison. I should watch Wings of Honneamise again.
Yeah, the ship frames are CG, but the shading he apparently animates by hand to get that chunky 80's anime look.
 
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