The new World War Z trailer

[Gearhead mk2]

> Book is slow paced, pieced together from accounts of survivors after the war is allready over, zombies are slow gotta-shoot-em-in-the-head types, focus is more on the people in the crisis than the zombies themselves and the horro of a world-wide calamatiy, one chapter actively slaps down the whole military-mudering-zombies-en-masse thing
> Film is set druing crisis, very fast and loud, zombies are fast and vuneable to being shot anywhere if the clip of the soldiers holding them off with automatic rifles is any indication, focus on action scenes of soldiers holding them off almost without effort

Yeah, I'm out.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I kinda like how these Zombies just seem to swarm over everything.

My interest is kinda, eehhhh though because it looks like a half-hour of society falling apart and the rest of it is all military.

I want Zombie movie JUST about the initial attack and all the chaos that goes with it.

 

[cahtush]

Zombies don't tire, they don't need food.

Could you explain how this works?
Because if they dont eat they will be harmless after a day or two.
The body needs energy to move, zombie or not.
They still have cells that need carbon and oxygen.

And speaking of that, why do you need to shoot them in the head?
The legs (they will not be able to move), heart (they still have cells that need to be fed) or lungs (again, oxygen) also work just fine.

 

[Olas]

There wouldn't be enough time for a movie to properly tell the documentary style story of World War Z. Perhaps it would have been better for them to pick one story from the book, such as the Indian General, and go with that.

World War Z I think would have worked better as a TV series, with each episode telling the story of a survivor. It would need hack of a budget though.

I confess I think the movie does look good, with the zombies acting more like a wave. It might not be World War Z but it could still shape up to be a good movie.

In 100% agreement, except on the movie looking good part. It looks like 2012 with zombies, ಠ_ಠ fast zombies.

They should have taken one of the more actiony stories from the book, expanded it somewhat for a movie, and then continued it with a TV series. The book has enough stories for at least several seasons.

Also, anyone else think those heaps of zombies look insanely fake? I haven't seen CGI that bad since Tron Legacy, and at least that had the excuse of being set inside a computer.

Praying that this is one of those trailers that completely misrepresents the actual movie to appeal to audiences more, like Jarhead.

 

[RedDeadFred]

Hasn't the loud "BWONG" noise been done a bit too much by now? Can't trailers stop using it? It's initial effect made me go: "this is gonna be crazy." Now it just makes me cringe...

 

[Easton Dark]

Oh my god, fast zombies...

THAT'S WHAT MAKES ZOMBIE MOVIES GOOD, HUH

Why did they even use the name World War Z? Anyone that that name has any meaning to knows this looks nothing like the book.

 

[Kyoh]

Zombies don't tire, they don't need food.

Could you explain how this works?
Because if they dont eat they will be harmless after a day or two.
The body needs energy to move, zombie or not.
They still have cells that need carbon and oxygen.

And speaking of that, why do you need to shoot them in the head?
The legs (they will not be able to move), heart (they still have cells that need to be fed) or lungs (again, oxygen) also work just fine.

I'll take this one.

Firstly, there are different iterations on zombies and how they work. Obviously, zombies are scientifically broken to begin with, but some folk do a good job at making them plausible.

The suggestions you're endorsing are viable tactics if the zombies were living breathing creatures, as in 28 days later. In those scenarios, they're usually humans infected with some virus. They still need to breath, still need to eat, and can bleed to death.

This is not the case with World War Z zombies (the book version).

In World War Z (and most zombie stories), zombies are dead humans that, for some unexplained reason, are still moving and hunting down other living creatures. There are as many different explanations to this as there are stories.

The main effect is this: they are dead and do not rely on food to function (differs from sources), they do not need to breath, they do not need blood in their veins. They are like animated objects; like killer lamps that can only be brought down by destroying the bulb.

But how does a human corpse move without blood carrying oxygen to the muscles? Won't they rot away into non existence? If the brain has to be destroyed, for whatever reason, won't that too rot away and kill the zombies? How can a zombie perceive it's surroundings when the brain is not functioning to interpret the (most likely defunct) sensory organs?

There's a lot of holes in making the dead zombie seem realistic, and World War Z takes my favorite stance on an explanation: we don't f*cking know. Scientists in the story bring up all these points and more, yet they are completely baffled that these creatures seem to defy the laws of nature. The book doesn't really dwell on the "how" so much, but focuses on the "what now?", and I think that makes it even more believable.

It's a phenomenon, a miracle, a nightmare.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

Hoard features the zombies are using, I'm not going to lie, are PRETTY DAMN AWESOME. The zombies themselves feel PRETTY DAMN AWESOME.

But THEY FUCKED IT UP, THEY FUCKED IT UP BAD. That isn't World War Z, one of the greatest zombie books written, it's an action movie with the same title and very little in common. Probably will not watch, WHY DISAPPOINT?

 

[rollinhighclass]

IMO I think this movie looks not to bad, I have read the book and was kinda under whelmed by the plot. I get that people don?t want to see another book being used for the name alone, however this is not new in Hollywood; anyone who thinks that the producers of the movie wanted to make a shot for shot adaptation of the book are kinda stupid. It?s all about getting the most people to buy a movie ticket.
That being said, I?m not 100% against fast zombies but they had better give some good explanation of what the outbreak is; either a virus or mutation or plague or whatever. For me what makes a good zombie book/movie is the dread of being hopelessly outnumbered by a hoard of zombies that you can for a time out run and maybe hide from, but in the end you can never really get away from. The trailer seem to just have wave after wave of zombies which if done well I think could be entertaining but to hard to tell from like 2 minutes of footage.

 

[bl4ckh4wk64]

WAIT!! for f*** sake Hollywood. why did you have to make a movie about it just as i pick it up and start to read it. let me finish first.
i haven't seen te trailer. i won't do it until i finish the book either. but i know that
1. the book's gonna be etter then the movie
2. that watching the trailer will color my opinion on the book.

never thought i'd say this but STOP WATCHING TV AND START TO READ!!!!!

Yeah, but 2 will only make you realize how much better the book is to this total crap trailer. I can tell you one thing that's not really a spoiler in any way. The trailer for the movie is absolutely nothing like the book.

You'll also see some pretty funny things that Max Brooks does to poke fun at Hollywood's portrayal of zombies, and then you'll groan when you see that this movie seems to do exactly that.

 

[Keenarnor]

The book is great, this looks okay. I think World War Z would be better as an HBO series, it would be easier to separate the different stories into their own episodes. I don't think it could all have been covered in a movie very well if they tried it that way.

 

[chimeracreator]

That being said, I?m not 100% against fast zombies but they had better give some good explanation of what the outbreak is; either a virus or mutation or plague or whatever. For me what makes a good zombie book/movie is the dread of being hopelessly outnumbered by a hoard of zombies that you can for a time out run and maybe hide from, but in the end you can never really get away from.

I have to disagree, that's one of the things World War Z did best, there was no explanation as to what caused the zombies. There was no scientific reason zombies should function. Everything we know about the world said that zombies should not exist, but they were still there and no one could explain why.

They required no food or energy source, but could still move. If you cut their head off that head would still try to bite and infect anyone it could for years to come. If you destroyed their brain however they died. Why did it happen? No one knew and after a while in the war no one cared, because it didn't matter why they were there simply that they wanted you dead.

 

[nexus]

I haven't read World War Z yet.. I've been meaning to... but I was under the impression it was more "Walking Dead".. not.. well whatever the hell that is. If they wanted to make a movie like this, why not just start your own IP? Probably easier said than done right?

After watching Brad Pitt's perfume commercial, I can't view anymore of his work without a hint of conspiracy salt. That shit was straight up creepy, Scientology-tier creepy.. or more. Now he's starring in a role that he normally doesn't do, which is clearly an allegory about "Hordes of the useless eaters being gunned down by the righteous survivors."

 

[Dangit2019]

I don't get why everybody's so mad that zombies are fast and can be held off a bit by body shots.

Let me ask you something (this is on topic, I swear). How do you kill a vampire?

You: Stake to the chest, holy water, etc.

The correct answer is however the hell you want, because VAMPIRES AREN'T F&%#ING REAL. People are getting mad at this for being scientifically incorrect about something that has NEVER EXISTED. EVER.

Granted, the book did set some ground rules, but really, if they made the movie zombies in the reality of the Max Brooks books (which were awesome, by the way), it just wouldn't make for cinematic moments. It would be just kind of depressing because everything you used to kill them would absolutely suck and you would get infected.

As for the movie quality, I would say that this has about the same chance that every other genre movie has: innocent until proven guilty. Plan B has made some really good movies, however (Kick-Ass, Tree of Life, etc.), so I'm hoping this will win out by not sucking.

 

[The Madman]

I don't know if it ever actually happened, but one of the definitions of a Category 4 Zombie Outbreak (or somesuch) was that zombies were so numerous that physical defenses were useless. Think it said specifically that walls or high buildings would be subsumed as zombies simply crawled on top of one another until they inadvertantly made a pile.

That's it, that's what I was thinking of. Thank you for mentioning it!

 

[Vrex360]

Okay as a movie in and of itself, it looks good. Exciting action, good looking stars and some great battle scenes.

As a fan of World War Z..... GRAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHH *Rage induced stroke)

I get the argument that you could never take all of World War Z and make it into a movie (though it could make a great trilogy) and I get that the more complex political elements of the book may bore traditional action movie audiences but Jesus is it too much to ask that whatever of the source material does survive the cutting board at least resemble the source material in some way?

Running zombies? Running zombies that all mesh together into a blurred CGI mess? Running zombies that don't honestly look all that visually different from the humans fleeing them? Is it so much to ask that the movie adaptation at least resemble the Max Brooks zombie?

I wish like hell they would follow the format of the book, but I guess that's too much to ask. Again had it not been for the title, I would be psyched for this movie. Right now all I can feel is detached bitterness.

 

[Johnny Impact]

This is going to be just like I Am Legend. Nothing in common with the source material except the title.

Thog say, "Him hit nail on head."

OT: The trailer has to show explosions and headshots or no one will go see the damn movie. Sad fact, people don't go to the movies to think. Zombies are fer killin'!

Planet of the Apes did the same thing a couple years ago. The trailer was all jumping monkeys and gunfire. I must say I was pleasantly surprised with how good it turned out to be.

Here's hoping.

EDIT: Of course, I haven't watched the trailer. Doesn't sound good......
EDIT 2: Just watched it. Gah. Fuck Hollywood.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

Sorry, but a human tower? That relies on the pilots working alone, and being both blind and slow to react. Still does not very well explain how zombies take on a TANK. 80 tons of armor needs a bit more than fists and teeth to dent.

That helicopter needs to rearm and refuel at some point, hard to do if your base is over-run.

Military bases tend to be at least some ways away from a city, often miles away, which is quite a distance to run, and any military strategy is going to revolve around keeping those things up and running.

Same principal with a tank. Sure it is effective at stopping zombies but also requires a great deal of fuel to run. Can you take out a bunch of zombie and get back to refuel before you are overwhelmed.

Yes. While tanks need a lot of fuel, they also have HUGE fuel tanks in them so they can be deployed for battles on hours on end. If a tank charges at a load of zombies, those zombies are not going to "overwhelm" the tank, the tank will flatten them.

Zombies don't tire, they don't need food. They are just going to keep coming. Yet if just one part of the human supply chain fails, we're screwed.

Zombies, undead, the infected, or otherwise still have to obey the laws of physics. You con only convert existing energy, you cannot create new energy. You need food so your body has energy to move. Otherwise, you tire out and starve. Also, constantly pushing the body beyond it's limits is going to do serious damage to muscle fibers, tissues, and the bones. The zombies would just break their legs off, forcing them to a crawl. Also, the RECORD speed ever achieved by a person (set by Usian Bolt during the Olympics) is only 27 miles an hour, and that was only during a 100 meter dash by the worlds best athlete. A normal human zombie would not be able to travel very far going that speed, and not get anywhere very fast at any slower speed.

Some other things your forgetting. Zombies, on average, must infect more people than the numbers they are losing, and their is only a finite amount of people that would not be able to drive away or defend themselves with firearms (this film does take place in the gun happy USA, after all) or other weapons. Also, biting is a VERY poor way to spread dieases. That is why rabies is such a rare condition even though it often infects creatures that are VERY good at biting other things.

 

[chimeracreator]

Military bases tend to be at least some ways away from a city, often miles away, which is quite a distance to run, and any military strategy is going to revolve around keeping those things up and running.

Very true, but the point of zombies is that they never tire and they can simply keep walking.

Yes. While tanks need a lot of fuel, they also have HUGE fuel tanks in them so they can be deployed for battles on hours on end. If a tank charges at a load of zombies, those zombies are not going to "overwhelm" the tank, the tank will flatten them.

Not entirely true. Tanks do have huge fuel tanks, but the nation has a limited fuel supply to keep those tanks gassed up and if the supply chain breaks down, those tanks have problems. Likewise there is a limit to have many zombies can be crushed before the treads of a tank simply become jammed with the bodies of undead.

Zombies don't tire, they don't need food. They are just going to keep coming. Yet if just one part of the human supply chain fails, we're screwed.

Zombies, undead, the infected, or otherwise still have to obey the laws of physics. You con only convert existing energy, you cannot create new energy. You need food so your body has energy to move. Otherwise, you tire out and starve. Also, constantly pushing the body beyond it's limits is going to do serious damage to muscle fibers, tissues, and the bones. The zombies would just break their legs off, forcing them to a crawl. Also, the RECORD speed ever achieved by a person (set by Usian Bolt during the Olympics) is only 27 miles an hour, and that was only during a 100 meter dash by the worlds best athlete. A normal human zombie would not be able to travel very far going that speed, and not get anywhere very fast at any slower speed.

That's the trouble with fighting the zombies from World War Z, they don't seem to obey the law of energy conservation. If you lock a dozen zombies in a room, wait ten years and come back those dozen zombies will still be there and every bit as deadly as they were a decade before. Given the fact World War Z never tells you where the infection came from its entirely possible that some Chinese diver got bitten by a ten thousand year old zombie somewhere deep beneath the waves.

Some other things your forgetting. Zombies, on average, must infect more people than the numbers they are losing, and their is only a finite amount of people that would not be able to drive away or defend themselves with firearms (this film does take place in the gun happy USA, after all) or other weapons. Also, biting is a VERY poor way to spread dieases. That is why rabies is such a rare condition even though it often infects creatures that are VERY good at biting other things.

Yep, biting is often pretty inefficient but in the case of World War Z a zombie bite that breaks the skin has a 100% mortality rate. It should also be noted that the book starts out in China where the government's mishandling of the situation allows it to spread across the entire world somewhat subtly festering in poor areas until the great panic occurred.

 

[M920CAIN]

The trailer looks retarded. I've never read the mentioned book so I can't judge, but the trailer reminded me of some call of duty zombie dlc thing, only the zombies still appeared close to humanish.