The next Elder scrolls game will be very different.

[Innocent Flower]

TES 6 (or fallout 4 or any other first person open worlded game) Will either be a masterpiece or a total wreck. We're not going into issues like story, but rather how the technical improvements of the next gen will break the game.

Tod wants better graphics.

Better graphics would realy demand quite a lot of things to be better.
Everything will need to get better. the better a game looks the more it's visual faults stands out. Nobody cared when Aliens versus predator (1999) had jerky alien animations. I'm still bothered by the faces of those from the 2010 game.

Fans are going to be critical of things that were once ok.


the need for better Animations/graphics will have three effects.

- There will be less variety in unique creatures. There's a decline in creatures already. But I mean... With animations twice and detailed and Four times more numerous.. All the animation love is likely going to be put on the most common bone types (humanoid/dog shaped/horse shaped) and little will be for the less common setups (dreugh)

- We're gonna see it as very jarring to instantly drink potions in the inventory or instantly swapping armour. The likely alternate is that there are animations for drinking potions and putting on armour.

- People will need better death animations,fear animations and accompanying noises. Thus the game gets banned.
Edit: i don't mean kill moves. I mean that when you decide to attack a village, you're going to have innocents with realistic expressions of fear when you aproach them with a bloody spear. People who gargle blood when you shoot them in the belly with an arrow. People who dance as the flesh crumbles from their flaming body. This isn't going to be just deadra or even just bandits, this is going to be women and children. At least in GTA everyone had a quick death and everyone was an arsehole.



Thoughts?

 

[jehk]

Nah. Immersion is more then just graphical high fidelity.

 

[Tom_green_day]

Fallout 3 and Skyrim are my favourite games, but I really don't care about graphics. More content, more variety of creatures, a more immersive world and (especially for Fallout) the continuation of the amazing aesthetic are all more important to me than the graphics.

 

[ShadowTrooper-A-E]

looks ok except for less creatures skyrim already has so little creatures outside of dlc at least to me anyway games always need more enemy types especially rpgs and shooteres per sequal.

 

[chuckdm]

If Fallout 4 has the same engine as Skyrim (from a graphics perspective, that is - I don't expect spellcasting) but is set in Boston, I'm happy. I want nothing more than to battle the Enclave on behalf of the Commonwealth!

Leave the graphics at a level that is good, but doesn't require 8GB of memory to load the textures on a single interior wall. The people with 32GB of ram can go make a mod for that.

Also, mods. I mean the odds of Bethesda releasing a fallout game without mods are slim-to-none but if they do, I'd have to personally fly to wherever their HQ is and punch someone in the balls.

And to that point, I think the reason we won't see a Fallout 4 with crysis-level graphics is that the barrier to entry for modders - from animation to textures to even just weapon or armor mods - goes up drastically when you increase the fidelity of the engine too much. Both TES and Fallout thrive for YEARS after release not because of a larger-than-average fan base, but because their inherit mod-ability gives them life after they would otherwise be forgotten by most. In effect, Bethesda puts 10% more work into making the game easy to mod, and the community repays that by making their game infinitely more playable years later, which I promise you increases sales dramatically. Win-win.

Bethesda won't jeopardize that level of win with an engine that individuals can't learn to mod in their spare time. Or if they do, I'm buying a plane ticket soon.

 

[Smooth Operator]

So we got no evidence of anything here, just making up random stories?
Alright then I predict it will be the best thing ever made, putting all others to shame for decades to come in everything from story to combat... see making up random stuff is really not a discussion.

Let's at least make it about what improvements people would like to see and what can stay the same.

 

[DoPo]

Thoughts?

I still play Morrowind, Daggerfall and even Might and Magic. The last one looks like an ass and it has always looked like an ass (seriously - 1999 and it had sort of Doom level visuals with everybody being 2D cutouts). I won't be bothered if devs skimp on polishing.

 

[bojackx]

The title is very misleading, I would have thought you'd at least have a source or a quote or something.

This is just you stating your predictions as fact, which doesn't go down well here.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

The title is very misleading, I would have thought you'd at least have a source or a quote or something.

Yeah, I was getting all excited for a press release or something. This thread needs an "I think" at the beginning of the title.

Amen. I came to the thread excited to read some information on the next Elder Scrolls and share it with the GF, and instead it's just the OP bloviating.

Boo. Hiss.

 

[Esotera]

The next game needs more realism & less wolves attacking you every 5 seconds. The Elder Scrolls games are awesome because they're a massive open world, and the best part is just exploring that without that many interruptions (and also stealing and killing)

 

[jdogtwodolla]

My only wish is that they expand they're ever so exclusively small pool of voice actors by more than an number of 3. That may be an exaggerated number, but I have no idea in which direction the exaggeration actually is.

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

The title is very misleading, I would have thought you'd at least have a source or a quote or something.

This is just you stating your predictions as fact, which doesn't go down well here.

Actually it's doubly misleading, since he's just talking about graphics. Oh yeah, we can have the next elder scrolls game look like Crysis 3 on steroids, but how does that actually make the game different from the previous iterations?

I would like to start bashing on the OP, but instead I'll predict that if Bethesda comes forward with the statement that "The next Elder Scrolls will be very different", it will likely be set in Elsweyr. We've already had two Elder Scrolls games worth of wolves, forests, mountains and villages. Time for some deserts, jungles, flying carpets and bazaars!

 

[Jamash]

- People will need better death animations,fear animations and accompanying noises. Thus the game gets banned.



Thoughts?

Explain how the need for better animations and SFX will lead to the game getting banned, because the notion that Skyrim is the pinnacle of realistic animation, acceptable violence and is pushing the boundaries of taste and decency doesn't make much sense.

Skyrim is only rated 15, so there's a lot more headroom for increasing the level of violence and the graphic detail of the violence before it gets banned (3 years to the next age group then a huge gap before it's considered too violent even for adults). Indeed the level of graphic violence in Skyrim is rather moderate and there are already games that feature more realistic animations, more visceral ragdolls and more graphic violence than Skyrim, yet they haven't been banned.

 

[T3hSource]

Yes,you can have your 3 centimeter 2x2 kilometer high definition shallow estuaries to explore,I prefer the 10 meter deep 1x1 kilometer lake which Morrowind is.Uhh...yeah,remember when TES was an actual role playing game,rather than what is seen now as an "open world exploration game with RPG elements"?

 

[Xariat]

- People will need better death animations,fear animations and accompanying noises. Thus the game gets banned.

Boy, that escalated quickly.
better death animations = banned seems like an odd conclusion to draw.

Skyrim had killcams and fancy pancy finishing moves, but was still only age restricted to 15 (as far as I am concerned at least), I think the chances of the next TES getting banned is low, very very low.

 

[Anti-American Eagle]

The next Bethesda games in regards to fallout and the elder scrolls need to be better written than fallout 3 and skyrim.

In regards to TES it needs to be more like morrowind in terms of freedom, especially back to that style of spellcasting where it was built upon rule of cool. Skyrim felt hollow compared to morrowind and oblivion.

In regards to fallout, well I can barely stand that fallout 3 is a game these days, it needs to go back to its roots like New Vegas had done. Fallout 3 in a way tried to reject everything that had happened up to that point which would have been fine if it had been marked as spinoff. Fallout New Vegas was way more of a sequel than fallout 3 ever was.

I expect planescape/baldurs gate/witcher 2/mass effect 1/morrowind/fallout 2/spec ops the line/bastion level of writing out of these games too.

 

[Happiness Assassin]

The thing is that Bethesda's game are somehow both total wrecks and masterpieces simultaneously. Bethesda games are always bug ridden messes and if they were any worse they would be completely unplayable. But we allow it because the game worlds they make are so great that we can look beyond the mountain of bugs.

 

[Innocent Flower]

- People will need better death animations,fear animations and accompanying noises. Thus the game gets banned.

Boy, that escalated quickly.
better death animations = banned seems like an odd conclusion to draw.

Skyrim had killcams and fancy pancy finishing moves, but was still only age restricted to 15 (as far as I am concerned at least), I think the chances of the next TES getting banned is low, very very low.

Not realy, Think about it. I don't mean 'you lift them up with one sword through the belly and then cut of their heads with your offhand weapon'

But rather : old grandmother cowering in the corner in fear, scrambling frantically at the walls as if to escape her inevitable slaughter. Town killing psychopaths are really going to be a problem.

 

[WanderingFool]

TES 6 (or fallout 4 or any other first person open worlded game) Will either be a masterpiece or a total wreck. We're not going into issues like story, but rather how the technical improvements of the next gen will break the game.

Tod wants better graphics.

I dont know who this "Tod" is, but he's a fool...

The graphics in games like FO3, TES4, FONV, and even Skyrim are not as incredible as they could be, but still people keep playing them.

If anything is going to break TES or FO in the next gen, its going to be from a mechanics perspective.

 

[NooNameLeft]

Good graphics, animations, ect, can greatly improve an open world game but its far from being the highest priority if you want the game to be good.
Skyrim looked beautiful especially with mods, but the actual contect was really boring. Boring quests, boring npcs, boring world, boring boring boring.
Fallout New Vegas (and Fallout 3 to some extent) did it a lot better, and therefore were much more enjoyable games in my opinion, despite having worse graphics.

On a side note, I recently got to play Fallout 1 and 2 and I finally understand why people say Fallout NV is more of a suqual than fallout 3 is. But I still think Fallout 3 is an amazing game that add a different style to the Fallout series and in some elements it is even better then New Vegas (the actual world for example is a lot more open and fun to explore).