The Other Mrs. Doctor Who
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I always thought that the 4th Doctor and Romana v2 were in the sack together. That change in dynamic you mentioned - where they seemed to become equals, and the banter started. To me, that rang of how one speaks with his or her lover.Susan Arendt said:
I realize a lot of that comes from the fact that the actors were in the sack, but the writers (and the writing) seemed to reflect that and imply it as well. You don't talk to your students like that - you don't talk to your friends like that either.
Well, unless they're friends with benefits.
Curious, I've seen all of those farewells and their episodes previously but never has it seemed like sexual tension to me. Poignant indeed, as you say, but nothing beyond that. I guess I've just never had that mindset, for me it's always just been two good friends parting.The_root_of_all_evil said:In my defence:
No sexual tension there?
(It's a subjective thing, so I won't go off on one if you say no)
I must say Tegan has always been a favourite of mine and her farewell both surprised and delighted me, it was so wonderfully sudden and unexpected and yet still completely Tegan.
Well that's a rather crude way of putting it Susan, but I suppose you're right.Susan Arendt said:
My Doctor Who experience started with the New Who, so maybe I don't notice it as much. My first Doctor Who thing that I ever really sat down and watched was a marathon of those Specials that followed Series 4 except for End of Time. I've tried to go back and watch the Classic Who, but the Canadian Netflix's selection is extremely limited.
Anyway personally I feel that River was a more intriguing character back when we barely knew anything about her. It's kinda like what Yahtzee once said about mysteries losing all their appeal the instant you explain them.
And, I love the Doctor and River when they start flirting. It's always so well written by Steven Moffat. That incredible man.
Nope I watched him in All Creatures grunt and smell before he was in Dr Who. I remember wondering when Siegfried Farnon was going to turn up in the tardisSer Imp said:
I'll be honest, I find River Song rather grating so I didn't take this marriage as good news. And I'm still not sure how well something so immutable would fit with the whole regeneration thing. It feels weird having the Doctor married when we know that Chris E, or DT's doctors probably wouldn't have the same sort of feelings
Ah, Lalla Ward. Always had a smile that could melt my heart. Shame I can't find the video interview to go with it, but this transcript [http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/webcasts/shada/interviews/ward/page10.shtml] of Lalla recounting her first chat with Patrick Stewart is quite amusing. How times change!
Great article. I'm just disappointed how the River Song story arc turned out. I think it would have been much better if she had been a Time Lady from The Doctor's past that he didn't recognize. It would have fit much better and been more believable than human + human + (In the TARDIS) = Time Lord baby.Susan Arendt said:
And with the talk of story arcs, it isn't really a story arc yet, but at the end of the episode "The End of Time(Part 2)", Wilfred asks The Doctor who the old lady was that kept appearing to him, and also showed her face to The Doctor before he shot the bridge/gateway machine. In that scene, after that question is asked, we see The Doctor look up and over at Donna in the background and doesn't answer the question, just continues with giving Wilf the lottery ticket present for Donna.
That to me means that the old lady was Donna, but that is a really bizarre idea. It makes me wonder, if the old lady was Donna, then how did she end up on Gallifrey in the Time War. I think it would be very interesting to have couple or three episode arc that deals with how that happened.
I don't see sexual tension at all, no. In the case of Pertwee, I see embarrassment at suddenly being the third wheel. For the other two, I see affection, fondness, respect, but not lust or sex.The_root_of_all_evil said:In my defence:
No sexual tension there?
(It's a subjective thing, so I won't go off on one if you say no
Equally,
or,
Tegan's is especially poignant, given Amy's departure as well. "No more bloodshed"
Well, now that they've removed every last bit of mystery about her character, forcibly extracted every last bit of independence she ever had from the Doctor, and turned her into a one-dimensional groupie, I'm hoping River Song is finally taken out of the limelight.
And, given that another two hundred years of adventures just took place offscreen in between "The God Complex" and "Closing Time," that might actually be the case. Can we get some new characters now please?
And, given that another two hundred years of adventures just took place offscreen in between "The God Complex" and "Closing Time," that might actually be the case. Can we get some new characters now please?
Honestly River was interesting in the "Library" episode in her first appearance. But then they sort of thrust her upon on us, and while the banter is neat, she does little in terms of plot competence, and the marriage is fairly premature given that all they had was playful banter, but whatever she's human now, it wont last.
And now she really has no choice left but to stagnate, we know how she got where she is and how she ends. So now no matter what happens she can't really develop any more.
I could see her appearing occasionally in episodes, but she can no longer have any relevance without sucking the life out of the plot.
And now she really has no choice left but to stagnate, we know how she got where she is and how she ends. So now no matter what happens she can't really develop any more.
I could see her appearing occasionally in episodes, but she can no longer have any relevance without sucking the life out of the plot.
I'm pretty sure Susan meant "heart" as the usual metaphor, not the literal organ; or in the Doctor's case, organs.KazNecro said: