The Sacrificial Lamb

[josemlopes]

There are a lot of other places where the game didnt get a ten and there was no outrage and there is another place where it got the same as the rest but did have an outrage (Gamespot).

Its not the score, its the content.

Ohrilly?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.828644-Escapist-gives-GTAV-a-3-5-5-stars-denizens-of-the-Internet-act-like-children

In my opinion anything from 9 to 9.5 is usually the safe zone from whiny little internet dwellers.

Unless the game is shit. Then give it a 6.

Yeah, really.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.828530-People-freak-out-over-Gamespot-GTA-V-review

 

[Mike Fang]

"Act like professional journalists...not because either you or I give a flying fuck about professional ethics or duty, but because of MONEY."

God, this woman is such a *****. It's like she's incapable of opening her mouth without saying something that makes me want to smack the shallow callousness out of her.

 

[Thaluikhain]

The execution of your post was lacking.

Fortunately, I'm not above being painfully unfunny - 11/10.

PFt, you just voted me down because I'm a struggling Indie poster, not a mainstream contributor.

 

[Lilani]

God, this woman is such a *****. It's like she's incapable of opening her mouth without saying something that makes me want to smack the shallow callousness out of her.

You mean this character? I hope you do, because otherwise it sounds like you might be referring to the author, who is male lol.

 

[shrekfan246]

The execution of your post was lacking.

Fortunately, I'm not above being painfully unfunny - 11/10.

PFt, you just voted me down because I'm a struggling Indie poster, not a mainstream contributor.

You gotta help me rake in the dolla' bills if you want to see those big scores, thaluikhain! Everybody knows I'm a corporate stooge with no integrity.

Or at least, that's what they're always insinuating behind my back!

 

[BX3]

Did anyone actually criticize GTA V getting a max score? Except, you know, actual critics.

I think they were talking more generally than just GTA V specifically.

Games in the past that have gotten max scores drives people to call the credibility of the reviewer into question all the time. Sometimes deserved, sometimes undeserved, but it's almost always accompanied by the "no game is actually perfect" quip.

 

[Gorrath]

No, but repeatedly bashing on about how reviewers are supposed to be "objective" (and not caring about objectivity when it's a widely-regarded-as-terrible title like Duke Nukem Forever or Aliens: Colonial Marines) and saying that the reviewer was stupid because they just don't "get" the point of the game is worthy of derision.

You'll get no argument from me on that. Criticism is an art, not a science and so there is a lot of room for interpretation, prejudice, subjectivity and the like, which is all perfectly fine. As I mentioned, I"m arguing against overreaction to reviews and to people who criticize those reviews. In some cases, the derision is justified and sometimes it is not. Mine is a plea for level-headed and well reasoned arguments from both a reviewer and those who disagree with them. Such arguments seem few and far between.

 

[lacktheknack]

I wonder if Tito is ever going to live this down. Knowing the internet, probably not.

He almost lived down Dragon Age II.

Almost.

Al. Most.

OT: This appears about right. I love the comics that take place at work.

 

[shrekfan246]

No, but repeatedly bashing on about how reviewers are supposed to be "objective" (and not caring about objectivity when it's a widely-regarded-as-terrible title like Duke Nukem Forever or Aliens: Colonial Marines) and saying that the reviewer was stupid because they just don't "get" the point of the game is worthy of derision.

You'll get no argument from me on that. Criticism is an art, not a science and so there is a lot of room for interpretation, prejudice, subjectivity and the like, which is all perfectly fine. As I mentioned, I"m arguing against overreaction to reviews and to people who criticize those reviews. In some cases, the derision is justified and sometimes it is not. Mine is a plea for level-headed and well reasoned arguments from both a reviewer and those who disagree with them. Such arguments seem few and far between.

I can appreciate that.

It'd be far nicer than what we've been getting, anyway.

There are certainly people who bring up great points when they criticize aspects of a review they didn't like, and even if I personally disagree with their points I'd never begrudge them that, because it's always great to get another perspective on something you feel strongly about. It's just too bad they tend to get lost in the shuffle of everyone else overreacting.

 

[Erttheking]

I think all this stuff is a bunch of silly bullshit.

But I absolutely love how the journos pretend to be ever so victimized when all this controversy and butthurt translates directly into money in their pockets from the deluge of hits it creates.

...I'm sorry, how can someone pretend to be victimized when they get thousands upon thousands of comments saying how they should get raped, should get fired, should kill themselves and all the other horrible stuff I read in the time I could bear to stand on the youtube comment section of the Gamespot's review of GTA V. That and all the crap going on in the comment section of GTA V on this site? That's not pretending to be victimized, that IS being victimized.

 

[RJ 17]

I still don't get the rationale behind flying into a rage over review scores. You're literally just reading some random person's opinion of a game, the only difference between them and any other forum poster is that they're getting paid to write up their thoughts on the game.

Does their opinion in ANY way diminish your own enjoyment of the game? Or in the case of a game you don't like, does a positive review change the fact that you didn't like the game? Who the hell cares what Random Person Working at a Website says about a game? I'm here to tell you that if you do, then you really shouldn't. Think for yourself, formulate your own opinion, and stick with it.

Now you can debate points that are brought up in the review - provided you do it in a rational manner without foaming at the mouth - if you see things from a different perspective, but flat-out raging over a review score is just absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Gorrath]

I can appreciate that.

It'd be far nicer than what we've been getting, anyway.

There are certainly people who bring up great points when they criticize aspects of a review they didn't like, and even if I personally disagree with their points I'd never begrudge them that, because it's always great to get another perspective on something you feel strongly about. It's just too bad they tend to get lost in the shuffle of everyone else overreacting.

In that case, it is now your and mine holy duty to convince the entirety of the interwebs that rational discourse is the answer. I'll start with all the websites who's URL starts with 1 and you can start with 2. We'll meet back here at sundown and check our progress.

 

[Imp_Emissary]

Funny comic as always. Plus, people won't be able to complain about it being "Not about video games!", this time. ;D

You're too late, Carter: Jim Sterling already covered this. "Whine out of Ten" has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? Silly, silly fanboys...

OT: It's stuff like this that makes my question my desire to enter the games industry. Do I really making products catered to people who are only too happy to fill the stereotype of whiny, entitled brats?

Captcha: Thumbs up? THUMBS UP?! FUCK YOU CAPTCHA, THIS COMIC DESERVES A BETTER SCORE THAN YOUR FILTHY THUMBS UP!

True. You will always get people who complain about your games/comments on games/reviews of games.

But some people will love you for it, and even send you things. Like other games, action figures, cupcakes, and dildos.

<_< Granted, I can't guarantee that ALL of the dildos sent will be as a "Thank you", or as a "Go F@#K yourself".[sub][sub]If you have no idea what I'm talking about, go watch the Jimquisition.[/sub][/sub]

I like how mr Tito put out his doomed review of Dragon Age II, and then he worksd up the cojones to not like GTA V as much as the world expects him to.

Nice, that shows character!

Yep. That's Tito. The new leader of the Escapist.

All hail G-tit!

 

[SacremPyrobolum]

I don't understand where the 9/10 is coming from. Doesn't the Escapist use 5 stars to rate games?

I suppose these kinds of things are meant to be shorthand at-a-glance accounts of the games "worth"but I feel they are somewhat antiquated. Can't really convey much with just a fraction.

 

[2xDouble]

Now that's leadership right there: delegation of duty and responsibility.

 

[wild0061]

I think all this stuff is a bunch of silly bullshit.

But I absolutely love how the journos pretend to be ever so victimized when all this controversy and butthurt translates directly into money in their pockets from the deluge of hits it creates.

Hits alone doesn't necessarily mean they'll get any money, I assume we actually have to watch the ads for them to get any money from us (and not use any forms of blockers to stop the ads), so easy way to stop it is to either not give hits to the ones stirring up controversy or complaining about being victimised (by the people that pay their bills) all the time, or to just use blockers, its not like we're buying physical newspapers to read their articles or anything.

 

[Gorrath]

I don't understand where the 9/10 is coming from. Doesn't the Escapist use 5 stars to rate games?

I suppose these kinds of things are meant to be shorthand at-a-glance accounts of the games "worth"but I feel they are somewhat antiquated. Can't really convey much with just a fraction.

That is the system they use and I wish they wouldn't. In fact, I wish everyone would drop numerical ratings for pretty much all criticism. I don't see how that system is particularly useful when what an individual values in a game may or may not have anything at all to do with why the game received the score it did. You can two games get a 3.5/5 and both have vastly different aspects of the game that informed that score. I think I recall Jim Sterling saying that he liked using numerical ratings for criticism, I just don't think it tells the audience much, if anything, about whetehr they will actually enjoy the game.

 

[Basement Cat]

It's nice to see Erin's office mates again. BUT WHERE'S PENNY?!?!?!?

 

[DSK-]

Finally! A critical miss I understand yay! \o/

 

[Paradoxrifts]

Complete bollocks. Nobody is losing their shit over anything, until someone pistol whips a game journalist with a two 1/2 foot long double-sided dildo.

Then and only then, will I admit that shit has officially been lost.