The Spoony One has been ejected from That Guy With the Glasses.
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Try and navigate his website, I don't know whether it's just me but I can't get on to the second page. I've noticed his Snow White and the Huntsman and Prometheus commentaries are missing off the front page too, so I have no idea what's wrong with the site at the minute.Khazoth said:
I'm new here and I made an account to weigh in on this, and this will get wordy so I apologize, but I'll preface the "You have to admit such and such was prodding him on." crowd with a quote from Zen Buddhist philosopher Takaun Soho:
"If one's right-mindedness is correct when he is associating with others, he will not be insulted by them. Being insulted by others, one should realize that he had lost his own right-mindedness prior to the offense."
It's not about "misogyny jokes". It's about the attitude behind those jokes that is the problem. Spoony's attitude as of late has just sucked. Yeah, you can argue he's depressed. Yes, you can argue that his ex-girlfriend screwed him. Yes, you can argue that some people took swings against while he was already against the ropes.
It doesn't matter. Spoony put himself in this mess, by himself. He has no one to blame for his rotten behavior and shitty attitude that lead to all of this but. him. self.
"But depression--" Yes but depression. Spoony has depression. Ya know what, so did David Bohm. So did Mike Wallace. So do a lot of other people from all walks of life...including myself and several of my friends who legitimately suffer from bipolar disorder. And to a degree my depression caused me to do sort of the same things he has done, only I never lashed out at the people who were trying to help me at worst, thank god, and I never let me problems spill over to places where I would frequent on the internet, thank God, Billy Bob, and Buddha. My friends bent over backwards to help me and eventually I lucked out and I got over it and I will never let it happen again.
Spoony is in control of his own destiny here. He brought this on himself and it's very clear at this point that the only one that is going to dig him out of the hole he has dug is himself. Fortunately I've not see all the twitter drama and I never frequented his forums past his early days of his old site, but you can just tell from his vlogs and recent videos he's coming apart at the seams.
My associates who suffer from bipolar disorder have found ways of dealing with it. A man I work with takes medication AND has a child to raise as a single father. His bipolar disorder makes him feel miserable at times but he works through it cuz he's got a kid to take care that he cares deeply about. A good friend of mine with bipolar disorder was going through a rough patch in their life and invited a friend of theirs they met online who had problems of their own to live with them so that could give each other support. And they are both doing great today despite their problems. And at my friend's worst they'd make Spoony's rage look like a road flare compared to my friend's volcanic eruptions. Today my friend is so mellow you would have never known that they had these issues. Another friend of mine has bipolar disorder and they are married now. Another friend of mine spends time playing games online with another friend of ours that lives out of state who isn't so socially inclined.
I myself went from weighing less than 240 pounds to only 160 pounds within the span of a year. I suffered from major depression and anxiety attacks along with aches and pains triggered by depression. I kept going to the doctor convinced something was wrong with me. But it was all in my head. All of it. Looking back my depression nearly killed me, and gave me horrible medical bills. When people I knew gave me a chance to help bounce back from this I took it, and it was not easy. I'm still physically recovering from my problems over a year later with how badly I had wasted away.
I myself made a commitment to a lifestyle change so I wouldn't wind up back where I was this time two years ago. I go outside. I take walks, I get fresh air, I get some sunlight. My New Year's Resolution was to get a tan. I went from being paler than Noah at the beginning of this year to almost looking like an Indian in less than six months.
Now I'm not just gonna bust on his chops. But for me and my friends we all pulled ourselves together and worked past our problems because we wanted to fix them. He's got people that truly care about his well-being and he's just throwing it back in their face. The only person that can fix this mess is Noah himself. He has to want to fix it.
The real problem is that it's clear Noah spends too much time spending his life with the internet. He spends too much time on Twitter looking for justification for his crappy behavior. He needs a lifestyle change before he can even begin to recover to what has happened to himself and his career. I know he has heart problems but the man needs to go outside and start taking walks. He needs to find a place to ride a bicycle around in a way that isn't gonna be too strenuous. He needs to get some sun and fresh air.
Next, he needs to start spending time with people that are not his internet friends. As in people that he can actually physically speak with face to face. Part of what is enabling this is the fact that all the people he associates with may be more accustomed to his behavior since they too are internet celebrities, but even they have their limits to what they'll put up with, hence him getting kicked off the site/him quitting/whatever. His social inhibitions are waaaaaay out of alignment and he needs to spend some time with regular people to get them fine tuned again (if they ever really were to begin with).
He needs to possibly get a real job again, somewhere, which would force him to get his social inhibitions further in check and give him something to do besides be on the internet. I cannot stress enough how much keeping yourself physically occupied can go a long way towards fixing your emotional issues. Noah has all this pent up stress and anger and doesn't have a physical outlet for it so it's being dumped on his fans and his friends. Working and exercising will allow for all that to be bleed off in exertion rather than on his twitter account.
Moving might be a good idea, also. People are flooding into Texas because of job opportunities. A change of scenery might help (and Angry Joe does live in Texas so he's near physical support). Or anywhere where he is near tangible human support.
I don't wanna see this happen to him. He's in a bad place but he's put himself in this situation. He's become an internet celebrity and he's emotionally unable to get a handle on it, and he needs to. Badly. The best way to "stick it" to those he thinks have wronged him is to get his act together and continue his career from here like an adult and man up for his mistakes. There's no shame in suffering from depression, but don't use it as an all-encompassing go-to excuse for your poor personal conduct, because it isn't, and his fans are tired of it, and the contributors at TGWTG were clearly tired of it and didn't wanna watch someone as talented as himself self-destruct further.
Anyways, this was painful to write, because it's painful to remember my own personal bouts with this crap, but I recovered and I have that sobering experience to weigh in on this whole situation pretty intimately today. My best wishes to Noah, hopefully he'll get his head back on straight. I want to see him and TGWTG succeed because these guys, whether they realize it or not, are unwittingly spearheading the future of TV, as in we'll be watching it via the internet on our HDTVs instead of through traditional media outlets. Spoony has inspired a lot of people to do what he does for a living, and that alone is reason enough to get his act together so he keep moving forward and inspiring others to make entertainment for themselves and others.
"If one's right-mindedness is correct when he is associating with others, he will not be insulted by them. Being insulted by others, one should realize that he had lost his own right-mindedness prior to the offense."
It's not about "misogyny jokes". It's about the attitude behind those jokes that is the problem. Spoony's attitude as of late has just sucked. Yeah, you can argue he's depressed. Yes, you can argue that his ex-girlfriend screwed him. Yes, you can argue that some people took swings against while he was already against the ropes.
It doesn't matter. Spoony put himself in this mess, by himself. He has no one to blame for his rotten behavior and shitty attitude that lead to all of this but. him. self.
"But depression--" Yes but depression. Spoony has depression. Ya know what, so did David Bohm. So did Mike Wallace. So do a lot of other people from all walks of life...including myself and several of my friends who legitimately suffer from bipolar disorder. And to a degree my depression caused me to do sort of the same things he has done, only I never lashed out at the people who were trying to help me at worst, thank god, and I never let me problems spill over to places where I would frequent on the internet, thank God, Billy Bob, and Buddha. My friends bent over backwards to help me and eventually I lucked out and I got over it and I will never let it happen again.
Spoony is in control of his own destiny here. He brought this on himself and it's very clear at this point that the only one that is going to dig him out of the hole he has dug is himself. Fortunately I've not see all the twitter drama and I never frequented his forums past his early days of his old site, but you can just tell from his vlogs and recent videos he's coming apart at the seams.
My associates who suffer from bipolar disorder have found ways of dealing with it. A man I work with takes medication AND has a child to raise as a single father. His bipolar disorder makes him feel miserable at times but he works through it cuz he's got a kid to take care that he cares deeply about. A good friend of mine with bipolar disorder was going through a rough patch in their life and invited a friend of theirs they met online who had problems of their own to live with them so that could give each other support. And they are both doing great today despite their problems. And at my friend's worst they'd make Spoony's rage look like a road flare compared to my friend's volcanic eruptions. Today my friend is so mellow you would have never known that they had these issues. Another friend of mine has bipolar disorder and they are married now. Another friend of mine spends time playing games online with another friend of ours that lives out of state who isn't so socially inclined.
I myself went from weighing less than 240 pounds to only 160 pounds within the span of a year. I suffered from major depression and anxiety attacks along with aches and pains triggered by depression. I kept going to the doctor convinced something was wrong with me. But it was all in my head. All of it. Looking back my depression nearly killed me, and gave me horrible medical bills. When people I knew gave me a chance to help bounce back from this I took it, and it was not easy. I'm still physically recovering from my problems over a year later with how badly I had wasted away.
I myself made a commitment to a lifestyle change so I wouldn't wind up back where I was this time two years ago. I go outside. I take walks, I get fresh air, I get some sunlight. My New Year's Resolution was to get a tan. I went from being paler than Noah at the beginning of this year to almost looking like an Indian in less than six months.
Now I'm not just gonna bust on his chops. But for me and my friends we all pulled ourselves together and worked past our problems because we wanted to fix them. He's got people that truly care about his well-being and he's just throwing it back in their face. The only person that can fix this mess is Noah himself. He has to want to fix it.
The real problem is that it's clear Noah spends too much time spending his life with the internet. He spends too much time on Twitter looking for justification for his crappy behavior. He needs a lifestyle change before he can even begin to recover to what has happened to himself and his career. I know he has heart problems but the man needs to go outside and start taking walks. He needs to find a place to ride a bicycle around in a way that isn't gonna be too strenuous. He needs to get some sun and fresh air.
Next, he needs to start spending time with people that are not his internet friends. As in people that he can actually physically speak with face to face. Part of what is enabling this is the fact that all the people he associates with may be more accustomed to his behavior since they too are internet celebrities, but even they have their limits to what they'll put up with, hence him getting kicked off the site/him quitting/whatever. His social inhibitions are waaaaaay out of alignment and he needs to spend some time with regular people to get them fine tuned again (if they ever really were to begin with).
He needs to possibly get a real job again, somewhere, which would force him to get his social inhibitions further in check and give him something to do besides be on the internet. I cannot stress enough how much keeping yourself physically occupied can go a long way towards fixing your emotional issues. Noah has all this pent up stress and anger and doesn't have a physical outlet for it so it's being dumped on his fans and his friends. Working and exercising will allow for all that to be bleed off in exertion rather than on his twitter account.
Moving might be a good idea, also. People are flooding into Texas because of job opportunities. A change of scenery might help (and Angry Joe does live in Texas so he's near physical support). Or anywhere where he is near tangible human support.
I don't wanna see this happen to him. He's in a bad place but he's put himself in this situation. He's become an internet celebrity and he's emotionally unable to get a handle on it, and he needs to. Badly. The best way to "stick it" to those he thinks have wronged him is to get his act together and continue his career from here like an adult and man up for his mistakes. There's no shame in suffering from depression, but don't use it as an all-encompassing go-to excuse for your poor personal conduct, because it isn't, and his fans are tired of it, and the contributors at TGWTG were clearly tired of it and didn't wanna watch someone as talented as himself self-destruct further.
Anyways, this was painful to write, because it's painful to remember my own personal bouts with this crap, but I recovered and I have that sobering experience to weigh in on this whole situation pretty intimately today. My best wishes to Noah, hopefully he'll get his head back on straight. I want to see him and TGWTG succeed because these guys, whether they realize it or not, are unwittingly spearheading the future of TV, as in we'll be watching it via the internet on our HDTVs instead of through traditional media outlets. Spoony has inspired a lot of people to do what he does for a living, and that alone is reason enough to get his act together so he keep moving forward and inspiring others to make entertainment for themselves and others.
What I found odd is that none of the longer tenure reviewers have commented. JewWario, AngryJoe, NChick, Linkara, Snob, Bennett, etc all have been quiet. Only ones who've said anything were Lupa & Phelous (who was probably expected to since he's dating Lupa). I heard the stream with LordKat and you could just tell her smugness in that she got this accomplished. She then kept trying to hide it but you could hear in her voice at times she's happy.
Do you give lessons by any chance? I'm honestly impressed by your ability to shrug off passive agressiveness without crossing the line yourself or veering into condescending. I'm seriously in awe.CriticKitten said:
Nice first post and well, i'm hardly part of the cool kids circle on the escapist but lemme welcome you all the sameKirinBoltIndora said:
I'd caution about comparing you and your friends cases with anothers as the factors might be different but I agree with the general gist of it and particular the part about him spending too much time on the internet and on twitter, which doesn't do him any favors and only fools fans into thinking they are more in touch with him then they really are.
Between that and his occupation being a net critic on the net, its a recipe for disaster for someone like spoony.
Also agree that moving to live with Joe or any of his actual real life (NOT internet) friends would be a great move.
Actually, Angry Joe has come out in support of Spoony, saying that he still intends to do crossovers with him regardless of whether he is affiliated with CA or not. And from what I hear, Brad Jones (The Cinema Snob) has also come out in support of Spoony.GeedAwesome said:
You do realize that LordKat said that Spoony should take Miles' gun and go kill himself, right?And That said:
LordKat protective of his fans? He said that anyone who likes spoonys videos doesn't deserve to watch anything of his, while banning anyone for disagreeing with him in the live chat. He also wanted Spoony to kill himself with his brothers gun (Who has been upset over having to kill a criminal in self defense) and in that Madden review he said that John Funk should die for liking it. Sorry, but LordKats kind of a dickAnd That said:
Yeah so... looked at Lupa's latest vid to look at the comments, saw one that really caught my imagination:
Can one of us thats really good at playing internet Batman try to dig up this internal memo? (and the plot THICKENS!)
I saw that one. I thought it should have been called Breaking down. I do not mean it as a joke, but as a description of his mental state.erttheking said:
Actually as niave as I realize this is, yeah I did believe that... okay maybe not best friends but that they were a group of people all at least on good terms with each other. I mean the entire anniversary special thing is kinda played on that idea. Instead it's more backstabbing, infighting, and politics then the cast of Saturday Night Live.And That said:
Also yeah I had a similar reaction when I heard about Chick having an abortion. It wasn't like negative, just like "whoa shit just got real for a moment."
You send an amateur comedian to cover a video game convention... Who expects him to act like Anderson Cooper?
Okay... gonna share this because it DID make me chuckle. Spoiler tag cause it is kinda meanspirited.
I was subbed to his twitter for a long time. I was not subbed to any of the other Channel Awesome members, so I did not have any of that context thing to aid me in understanding what the fuck is going on.Falcon123 said:
Either way, the more Noah becomes Spoony, the less I like him. When he's not talking down to his audience, I like the videos. When he is not raging at easy targets, I like the videos. When he's having fun with his reviews, they are great.
Until he stops taking his personal issues out on his audience, I will not watch his videos.
