The very first time you went "this is bullsh*t!" after an ending of something.

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Impossible to remember. One of the earlier ones was Evangelion, but I rewatched it when I was older and enjoyed the ending. I didn't like the alternate, darker theatrical ending that I watched after my third viewing of the show, but that was like seven years ago and I've never rewatched it.

Have you read the Manga? (Which is a finshed series as of now mind you)

I haven't. I don't read manga much. I don't know if I'm gonna revisit Evangelion in any form.

Personally I find it a lot easier to read manga, even if its a long running series, than watching a long running anime.

And trust me if you have watched the show before hand reading the manga will feel like a breeze and there are huge differences especialy in characterizations and different events happening.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Impossible to remember. One of the earlier ones was Evangelion, but I rewatched it when I was older and enjoyed the ending. I didn't like the alternate, darker theatrical ending that I watched after my third viewing of the show, but that was like seven years ago and I've never rewatched it.

Have you read the Manga? (Which is a finshed series as of now mind you)

I haven't. I don't read manga much. I don't know if I'm gonna revisit Evangelion in any form.

Personally I find it a lot easier to read manga, even if its a long running series, than watching a long running anime.

And trust me if you have watched the show before hand reading the manga will feel like a breeze and there are huge differences especialy in characterizations and different events happening.

I haven't watched any anime series in years. I can't stand the low budget animation anymore. Besides, twenty minutes is barely long enough to tell a good drama story most of the time. The Sopranos would have been a much lesser show with a twenty minute format. Manga is a better format to tell lengthy stories in. The artist can do more detailed scenes, and since it's more niche, they don't have to make it so trite. Now and then I'll watch a movie (usually one I've seen already, since Japan doesn't make many original animated movies anymore), but that's pretty much it.

I MUST WATCH THE SOPRANOS! I MUST SEE GREAT WRITING AND CHARCTERS AND STORIES!!!

Must see Goodfellas/Casino the series.






HBO is the king of TV, they put all the subsciption money to good use!!!

 

[McElroy]

Hades getting "sucked" into the vortex of souls in Hercules was always kinda bullshit.
The ending of LotR. Y'know, with the eagles.
The love story in the end of Amber Spyglass (3rd book of His Dark Materials).
The American remake of Life on Mars. That was just... oh dear.
Mr. Nobody felt like a complete waste of time right after watching it.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Hades getting "sucked" into the vortex of souls in Hercules was always kinda bullshit.
The ending of LotR. Y'know, with the eagles.
The love story in the end of Amber Spyglass (3rd book of His Dark Materials).
The American remake of Life on Mars. That was just... oh dear.
Mr. Nobody felt like a complete waste of time right after watching it.

The Nazgul had those flying Dragon-like creatures patrolling Mordor.

 

[McElroy]

Hades getting "sucked" into the vortex of souls in Hercules was always kinda bullshit.
The ending of LotR. Y'know, with the eagles.
The love story in the end of Amber Spyglass (3rd book of His Dark Materials).
The American remake of Life on Mars. That was just... oh dear.
Mr. Nobody felt like a complete waste of time right after watching it.

The Nazgul had those flying Dragon-like creatures patrolling Mordor.

Yes? It isn't that much of a stretch to come up with "Oh right, of course the eagles save them. How dramatic." when Frodo and Sam were up there getting some good ol' mountain ash into their lungs.

 

[Trooper924]

I hear you. I felt the same way about this one for a while... I finally decided that it was, indeed, a good ending for a true horror movie- that all of the decisions made by the hero were bad ones, and that the horror of this realization at the end was shared with the audience (at least that's my way of rationalizing it!).

I think even bigger gut punch was that the protagonist saw mother and daughter who either refused to hide in a shop, or were the first ones to muster the bravery to leave (don't remember which) INSIDE the civillian truck, safe and sound.

But I kimd of liked that ending. You are probably right in that it could be shot better, but at its core, for me, it was a lot better than the ending in a book, when they stop at a hotel, turn on the radio, hear the name of the city through static and are now filled with hope. It just didn't have the same impact.

Oh, I completely understand that it ties with the themes that the movie's been presenting and on paper, it's a pretty daring idea. It's just that it's execution is a complete load of bull.

I mean, even the mist goes away the minute the army shows up? Come on. If it was any more heavy handed, we would've heard the mother (who was the only one brave enough to leave the store alone after the mist started) telling her kids, "Sure glad I didn't try to mercy kill you guys back there. That would've been preeeeetty bad!"

 

[WindKnight]

I can't remember the title, but it was a warhammer fantasy short story that is set up as 'kid meets cute elf girl, they flirt, cute elf girl gets kidnapped by horrible monster, kid heads out to rescue her' story which is pretty note for note on the cliche, except because this is warhammer and everything is Grimdark, by the time the evil monster is defeated the elf girls been killed and eaten, and the kid realises everything's grimdark and he has to be a stoic badass and...

I can take bleak endings (heck, about the only positive think I will say about MD Geist is the ending is jaw dropping in its bleakness, but still make sense) but it didn't really earn it. Just Grimdark for Grimdarks sake (and I really don't like the whole disposable woman cliche, even back then)

 

[the December King]

Oh, I completely understand that it ties with the themes that the movie's been presenting and on paper, it's a pretty daring idea. It's just that it's execution is a complete load of bull.

I mean, even the mist goes away the minute the army shows up? Come on. If it was any more heavy handed, we would've heard the mother (who was the only one brave enough to leave the store alone after the mist started) telling her kids, "Sure glad I didn't try to mercy kill you guys back there. That would've been preeeeetty bad!"

Oh, sure. It was pretty heavy handed, I'll admit.

 

[Hawki]

Hades getting "sucked" into the vortex of souls in Hercules was always kinda bullshit.
The ending of LotR. Y'know, with the eagles.
The love story in the end of Amber Spyglass (3rd book of His Dark Materials).

1) I thought it was a good way for him to go.

2) Disagree, but I can agree to disagree, because I've seen the eagles debated from the Grey Havens to Far Harad.

3) While I'm not that fond of the trilogy, I can appreciate the symbolism/sub-text here. Lyra and Will are basically Eve and Adam 2.0 - puberty/the onset of attraction is the equivalent of eating from the Tree of Knowledge, only in the context of the story, it's presented as a good thing, given that the Authority is dead and Metatron is overthrown.

 

[Thaluikhain]

I can't remember the title, but it was a warhammer fantasy short story that is set up as 'kid meets cute elf girl, they flirt, cute elf girl gets kidnapped by horrible monster, kid heads out to rescue her' story which is pretty note for note on the cliche, except because this is warhammer and everything is Grimdark, by the time the evil monster is defeated the elf girls been killed and eaten, and the kid realises everything's grimdark and he has to be a stoic badass and...

I can take bleak endings (heck, about the only positive think I will say about MD Geist is the ending is jaw dropping in its bleakness, but still make sense) but it didn't really earn it. Just Grimdark for Grimdarks sake (and I really don't like the whole disposable woman cliche, even back then)

Oh, is that the one where he is a orphaned fisherman, and it turned out his dad was a famous crusader against chaos, and he'd come back as an elf eating monster?

Though, that didn't seem that grimdark to me because she wasn't a love interest, just some random woman he happened to think was attractive and had known for like 5 minutes.

 

[Glongpre]

The ending of LotR. Y'know, with the eagles.

Sauron was defeated so no threat of being attacked by the Nazgul. They were already there helping the army of men attack the gates. Gandalf is a bro, so they say sure we will help you look to see if the hobbits are OK.

?

 

[McElroy]

Hades getting "sucked" into the vortex of souls in Hercules was always kinda bullshit.
The ending of LotR. Y'know, with the eagles.
The love story in the end of Amber Spyglass (3rd book of His Dark Materials).

1) I thought it was a good way for him to go.

2) Disagree, but I can agree to disagree, because I've seen the eagles debated from the Grey Havens to Far Harad.

3) While I'm not that fond of the trilogy, I can appreciate the symbolism/sub-text here. Lyra and Will are basically Eve and Adam 2.0 - puberty/the onset of attraction is the equivalent of eating from the Tree of Knowledge, only in the context of the story, it's presented as a good thing, given that the Authority is dead and Metatron is overthrown.

Yeah, but go where? Even as little kids we understood that pool shouldn't be an inconvenience to a god, because that's why Hercules got out literally a few seconds earlier.

No matter how much I've seen it debated in the internet with my adult eyes - in early 2004 everyone in our fifth grade (who had seen the movie) thought the eagles were just an easy way to end the movie with some gay hobbit frolicking.

Similarly I read those books back when I still read for fun. Some cheesy romance with weird in-universe rules attached to it certainly didn't add to the enjoyment.

The ending of LotR. Y'know, with the eagles.

Sauron was defeated so no threat of being attacked by the Nazgul. They were already there helping the army of men attack the gates. Gandalf is a bro, so they say sure we will help you look to see if the hobbits are OK.

As I said, this has nothing to do with hating on the movies or disagreeing with whatever this and that nerd has to say about them especially now over ten years later. I was answering the topic.

 

[Hawki]

Similarly I read those books back when I still read for fun.

As opposed to...not reading for fun? Doesn't that kind of defeat the point (well, bar non-fiction potentially)?

 

[McElroy]

Similarly I read those books back when I still read for fun.

As opposed to...not reading for fun? Doesn't that kind of defeat the point (well, bar non-fiction potentially)?

I read one novel per year to make sure I can still read. :^)

 

[Hawki]

Similarly I read those books back when I still read for fun.

As opposed to...not reading for fun? Doesn't that kind of defeat the point (well, bar non-fiction potentially)?

I read one novel per year to make sure I can still read. :^)

Huh. Well, read over thirty this year, but hey, to each their own. 0_0

Anyway, going over my 2016 book list, I guess it did offer up some candidates, so I guess I can nominate the following for not quite bullshit endings, but ones that are still flawed:

-The Sword of Shannara (that 'plot twist' with the sword...I mean, what? Brona was cut by 'truth'? What?!)

-Mistborn: The Hero of Ages (much as I love Mistborn, it's still a case of the novels going 1>2>3 in terms of quality, and HoA is a key reason as to why. As in, would it be too much to ask for one of the characters besides Spook to survive? I mean, Sazed becomes a god, but Spook? Seriously? I'm not saying everyone has to have a happy ending, but with Vin and Elend dead, and Kelsier dead for a long time, who have I got left to root for in the new world that's created?)

-Peter Pan: The Neverland Wars (Got a copy in exchange for a review, in which I pointed out that the ending seems to be halfway committed to a sequel, and halfway intentionally ambiguous)

-Elfstones of Shannara (I'm not saying Wil HAD to be paired with Amberle, but Eretria feels like a consolation prize as far as pairings went)

 

[Erttheking]

I still think the ending to The Departed is a stealth kick to the groin that comes right the fuck out of nowhere. All the build up and nuance of "Rocks fall, everyone dies." And I'll happily jump on Mass Effect 3.

The Big O- It was as bizzare as the first Evangelion ending before they remake it with the movie!

Apparently the creators had been led to believe they would get a third season...

 

[CaitSeith]

Hades getting "sucked" into the vortex of souls in Hercules was always kinda bullshit.
The ending of LotR. Y'know, with the eagles.
The love story in the end of Amber Spyglass (3rd book of His Dark Materials).
The American remake of Life on Mars. That was just... oh dear.
Mr. Nobody felt like a complete waste of time right after watching it.

The Nazgul had those flying Dragon-like creatures patrolling Mordor.

Yes? It isn't that much of a stretch to come up with "Oh right, of course the eagles save them. How dramatic." when Frodo and Sam were up there getting some good ol' mountain ash into their lungs.

It's kinda of a recurrent event. The Hobbit book did it twice.

 

[CaitSeith]

I can't really recall the first either. Monty Python and the Holy Grail felt more like a joke that fell flat (maybe I'm missing some british context?), but it didn't infuriate me. The Myst good ending wasn't really something to be celebrated (especially compared with two of the other bad endings).

But the first one in my recent memory that really got me was Metriod: Other M. Compared to every other Metroid game (except Hunters, I never played that one), the final battle is bad (quicktime events are more satisfying than that crap). And then the ending isn't only disappointing. It's boring. Traveling through space, hearing a boring inner monologue while stardust forms into character's silhouettes and then dissipate.

Good thing they added a bonus section that let you explore the rest of the station and find the items that you missed (and that were completely inaccessible during up until now), a bonus boss battle and a more traditional Metriod ending sequence.

 

[WindKnight]

I can't remember the title, but it was a warhammer fantasy short story that is set up as 'kid meets cute elf girl, they flirt, cute elf girl gets kidnapped by horrible monster, kid heads out to rescue her' story which is pretty note for note on the cliche, except because this is warhammer and everything is Grimdark, by the time the evil monster is defeated the elf girls been killed and eaten, and the kid realises everything's grimdark and he has to be a stoic badass and...

I can take bleak endings (heck, about the only positive think I will say about MD Geist is the ending is jaw dropping in its bleakness, but still make sense) but it didn't really earn it. Just Grimdark for Grimdarks sake (and I really don't like the whole disposable woman cliche, even back then)

Oh, is that the one where he is a orphaned fisherman, and it turned out his dad was a famous crusader against chaos, and he'd come back as an elf eating monster?

Though, that didn't seem that grimdark to me because she wasn't a love interest, just some random woman he happened to think was attractive and had known for like 5 minutes.

I think it was the fact that until the ending, the story had been a nice little palate cleanser from the usual warhammer grit and grottiness. The elf was nice, the kid was nice, and it felt 'nice'. The dark ending just felt like a slap in the face to remind you nice doesn't happen in warhammer.

 

[RedDeadFred]

When Ash beat Brock by setting off the sprinklers and then used the water to electrocute Onix. Even at my young age, I thought it was bullshit. Especially since Brock had just decided to be merciful, so that Pikachu wouldn't be hurt. Looking back, you can see how shitty of a trainer Ash is throughout the series, but as a young kid, this was the first time something like that stood out to me.