The Witcher 3 Gets Five-Minute Gameplay Trailer

[Emanuele Ciriachi]

"even racism"

Racism as a feature! Ok, that sold it

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Time for lots of hilarious sex scenes. lol. Seriously though everything ive heard about Witcher 3 sounds great, and the gameplay trailer backs that up. Now we have this and a new Deus ex game - finally I have a reason to buy a current gen console.

 

[Shanahanapp]

SNIP

I'm not sure how seeing a character whipping another topless random character while she moans builds character or atmosphere. And that's at the start of a scene where you then go on to discuss important serious stuff. There's just no point to it other than the pandering.

The scene with Triss in the Witcher 2 is the only one that actually does have a bit of meaning character-wise and honestly I think that scene is fine. But all the rest of them are random 30 second long scenes with little to no context, often with characters who you know for less than 5 minutes.

 

[Chriss_m]

SNIP

I'm not sure how seeing a character whipping another topless random character while she moans builds character or atmosphere. And that's at the start of a scene where you then go on to discuss important serious stuff. There's just no point to it other than the pandering.

The scene with Triss in the Witcher 2 is the only one that actually does have a bit of meaning character-wise and honestly I think that scene is fine. But all the rest of them are random 30 second long scenes with little to no context, often with characters who you know for less than 5 minutes.

I can't understand this. Honestly. I'm not trying to be dramatically confused, like I'm just genuinely baffled. Sex is just sex. It's something that happens in life. It's not that big of a deal, it's not going to ruin the world if you see some graphics simulating sex, I promise. You'll be okay. The game will be okay, everything will be okay.

There's nothing special about sex - they could have a sex scene every corner you turn in the game and it'd still be A-OK. Why do you think there needs to be some sort of special justification for a sex scene? More so, haha, why do you think sex has no place in 'serious' games? Sex is okay, man. Try it sometime - I'm 95% sure you'll enjoy it if you find the right partner!

 

[Shanahanapp]

SNIP

I'm not sure how seeing a character whipping another topless random character while she moans builds character or atmosphere. And that's at the start of a scene where you then go on to discuss important serious stuff. There's just no point to it other than the pandering.

The scene with Triss in the Witcher 2 is the only one that actually does have a bit of meaning character-wise and honestly I think that scene is fine. But all the rest of them are random 30 second long scenes with little to no context, often with characters who you know for less than 5 minutes.

I can't understand this. Honestly. I'm not trying to be dramatically confused, like I'm just genuinely baffled. Sex is just sex. It's something that happens in life. It's not that big of a deal, it's not going to ruin the world if you see some graphics simulating sex, I promise. You'll be okay. The game will be okay, everything will be okay.

There's nothing special about sex - they could have a sex scene every corner you turn in the game and it'd still be A-OK. Why do you think there needs to be some sort of special justification for a sex scene? More so, haha, why do you think sex has no place in 'serious' games? Sex is okay, man. Try it sometime - I'm 95% sure you'll enjoy it if you find the right partner!

Well I honestly don't understand that you can't understand how some people would find meaningless pandering sex scenes detract from an otherwise serious experience.

 

[Shanahanapp]

SNIP

I'm not sure how seeing a character whipping another topless random character while she moans builds character or atmosphere. And that's at the start of a scene where you then go on to discuss important serious stuff. There's just no point to it other than the pandering.

The scene with Triss in the Witcher 2 is the only one that actually does have a bit of meaning character-wise and honestly I think that scene is fine. But all the rest of them are random 30 second long scenes with little to no context, often with characters who you know for less than 5 minutes.

It does... actually. Even if a little. It tells you something about characters. In the case of the main protagonist in this series, it adds a few details to the world (why do women actually want to have sex with him, for example).

Also, atmosphere.

Also, I may be wrong (memories are hazy) but I think only the bath scene was unskipable. The others were always player initiated.

I dont get why sex needs a higher meaning BTW... it does not. By this logic I can argue games not needing many things. And it is player choice... almost all of it.

Wait.. the shitty Science Fiction In Infinite... yeah that ruined the experience...

I'm not sure "She has sex" counts as character development. Also the bath scene was skippable I think. The two or so scenes with aforementioned whip lady are not.

I don't play The Witcher for cheap pandering, I play it for a serious and mature story. A pandering approach to sex is decidedly not mature and therefore detracts from the tone for me. I mean it's a pretty small thing is a large game. I just wish there were more meaningful scenes like the one with Triss and less random hookers and "Oh you saved me so I'll sleep with you" stuff in it.

 

[Chriss_m]

SNIP

I'm not sure how seeing a character whipping another topless random character while she moans builds character or atmosphere. And that's at the start of a scene where you then go on to discuss important serious stuff. There's just no point to it other than the pandering.

The scene with Triss in the Witcher 2 is the only one that actually does have a bit of meaning character-wise and honestly I think that scene is fine. But all the rest of them are random 30 second long scenes with little to no context, often with characters who you know for less than 5 minutes.

I can't understand this. Honestly. I'm not trying to be dramatically confused, like I'm just genuinely baffled. Sex is just sex. It's something that happens in life. It's not that big of a deal, it's not going to ruin the world if you see some graphics simulating sex, I promise. You'll be okay. The game will be okay, everything will be okay.

There's nothing special about sex - they could have a sex scene every corner you turn in the game and it'd still be A-OK. Why do you think there needs to be some sort of special justification for a sex scene? More so, haha, why do you think sex has no place in 'serious' games? Sex is okay, man. Try it sometime - I'm 95% sure you'll enjoy it if you find the right partner!

Well I honestly don't understand that you can't understand how some people would find meaningless pandering sex scenes detract from an otherwise serious experience.

Maybe it's a cultural thing. I'm European. Sex isn't really a big deal to us, in general.

"I dont get why sex needs a higher meaning BTW... it does not. By this logic I can argue games not needing many things. And it is player choice... almost all of it."

Yes, Charcharo. This is the thing. I can't work it out.

 

[Shanahanapp]

SNIP

I'm not sure how seeing a character whipping another topless random character while she moans builds character or atmosphere. And that's at the start of a scene where you then go on to discuss important serious stuff. There's just no point to it other than the pandering.

The scene with Triss in the Witcher 2 is the only one that actually does have a bit of meaning character-wise and honestly I think that scene is fine. But all the rest of them are random 30 second long scenes with little to no context, often with characters who you know for less than 5 minutes.

I can't understand this. Honestly. I'm not trying to be dramatically confused, like I'm just genuinely baffled. Sex is just sex. It's something that happens in life. It's not that big of a deal, it's not going to ruin the world if you see some graphics simulating sex, I promise. You'll be okay. The game will be okay, everything will be okay.

There's nothing special about sex - they could have a sex scene every corner you turn in the game and it'd still be A-OK. Why do you think there needs to be some sort of special justification for a sex scene? More so, haha, why do you think sex has no place in 'serious' games? Sex is okay, man. Try it sometime - I'm 95% sure you'll enjoy it if you find the right partner!

Well I honestly don't understand that you can't understand how some people would find meaningless pandering sex scenes detract from an otherwise serious experience.

Maybe it's a cultural thing. I'm European. Sex isn't really a big deal to us, in general.

"I dont get why sex needs a higher meaning BTW... it does not. By this logic I can argue games not needing many things. And it is player choice... almost all of it."

Yes, Charcharo. This is the thing. I can't work it out.

I am also European (Irish). It's not so much that it's a big deal. My point is that the Witcher approaches a lot of things with maturity, but not sex. I feel it's just tonally dissonant. If it was a lighter game I'd probably have less of an issue.

 

[Amaror]

SNIP

I'm not sure how seeing a character whipping another topless random character while she moans builds character or atmosphere. And that's at the start of a scene where you then go on to discuss important serious stuff. There's just no point to it other than the pandering.

The scene with Triss in the Witcher 2 is the only one that actually does have a bit of meaning character-wise and honestly I think that scene is fine. But all the rest of them are random 30 second long scenes with little to no context, often with characters who you know for less than 5 minutes.

What do you mean, ALL of them? On the Roche side of the game are just 2 sex scenes. You allready said yourself that the one with Triss in the elven bath is allright. So what's left is the Sex scene with Vess. Vess is an established Character that you know for pretty much the entirety of the game up until that point. The scene is completely in character with Vess being a soldier that views sex as nothing more than a fun pasttime. And she actually just sleeps with you if you respect her and don't loose to her on purpose in a fight. And there is a point to it, because it's just another step to develop Vess's character for what happens next.
So both sex scenes on Roche's side are entirely in character and serve the plot and character development.
I can't talk much about Iorveths path since i don't side with terrorists, but your statement is just flat out wrong for Roche's side of the story.

 

[Shanahanapp]

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I fail to see how her scenes develop her character in any way...And it is still a serious story, I mean I think it's important to note I still love the game. This doesn't ruin it for me, it's just an aspect I don't like. And even if you can say no, it still bothers me that you have the option of "Oh you saved me random sex now."

SNIP

I was actually talking about the Iorveth route, I haven't played Roche's so maybe it's better.

 

[Shanahanapp]

SNIP

I fail to see how her scenes develop her character in any way...And it is still a serious story, I mean I think it's important to note I still love the game. This doesn't ruin it for me, it's just an aspect I don't like. And even if you can say no, it still bothers me that you have the option of "Oh you saved me random sex now."

SNIP

I was actually talking about the Iorveth route, I haven't played Roche's so maybe it's better.

The thing is, even if you did not save her, most women there would rather be with the witcher...
Due to him being "safe" (no pregnancy or CTDs in a pre-condom world) and well known as a lover ...

Established in the books and kept in the games (they are a continuation).

Those scenes establish her sexuality, offer comedic relief (even the most serious stories need it) and break up the pacing.

And like I've said I'd rather more mature sexual content than "You are well known as a lover so women sleep with you."

Pacing can be broken up, comedic relief offered (not sure how they're comedic but okay) and her sexuality established (if that's even necessary?) without a pandering sex scene. Those are less mature reasons to include sex and more excuses to justify fanservice.

EDIT: No Chriss not religious. Like I've said not a problem with sex. I'm happy with pandering and fanservice, I just feel like in this particular series it comes across as tonally dissonant.

 

[ForumSafari]

Religious?

That seems a bit disconnected, they can disagree with you without being a caricature.

 

[lassiie]

".....interwoven with religious fanaticism, war crimes, even racism".

Ummmmm What????? I'm sorry, religious fanaticism and war crimes seem a million times worse than racism. When I heard that line I actually laughed out loud. They show people burning at the stake, being hung, than someone commenting about a she-elf's ears. Yea...sorry, the other two things were worse, and somehow racism was supposed to be the controversial one.

Yeah nah, not in that setting. When they say racism they're talking apartheid, ethnic cleansing...you know, real racism rather than rude-word racism.

I've played the previous games, and I know exactly what they are talking about. If you read my post, you would see what I was talking about. They show two horrible things, than for racism it's a she-elf having her ears made fun of. Who cares what they meant when that's what they show.

 

[lassiie]

".....interwoven with religious fanaticism, war crimes, even racism".

Ummmmm What????? I'm sorry, religious fanaticism and war crimes seem a million times worse than racism. When I heard that line I actually laughed out loud. They show people burning at the stake, being hung, than someone commenting about a she-elf's ears. Yea...sorry, the other two things were worse, and somehow racism was supposed to be the controversial one.

I think they were referencing this trope [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArsonMurderAndJaywalking].

OT: I really really hope this can run on a laptop. My desktop is dead, and not in the same country as me.

Ahhh, you may very well be correct and this would make perfect sense with the way she listed the 3 as well as the example they used to go along with it. Didn't realize this trope was a thing, and now I love their sense of humor even more.

 

[lassiie]

".....interwoven with religious fanaticism, war crimes, even racism".

Ummmmm What????? I'm sorry, religious fanaticism and war crimes seem a million times worse than racism. When I heard that line I actually laughed out loud. They show people burning at the stake, being hung, than someone commenting about a she-elf's ears. Yea...sorry, the other two things were worse, and somehow racism was supposed to be the controversial one.

Racism in the game goes beyond mere name calling. Elves and Dwarves are brutally beaten and slaughtered for just being non-humans.

That doesn't change the fact that the first two things that were listed are infinitely worse than racism. Plus, the example they gave was of just name calling which is why I found it so funny.

 

[Chriss_m]

Religious?

That seems a bit disconnected, they can disagree with you without being a caricature.

I didn't state that he was a caricature. Actually, I didn't state anything. I asked him a question, he responded, that was it.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Can't wait to grab this and see how my PC handles it.

Shame about the thread though, it shows how downtordden the ES has come to, I mean this is a thread with Witcher 3 gameplay and the majority is squawking too much about the line of Racism/Sex and suddenly it's like I've entered Tumblr all over again, ever since GG and before it this place has just been a sess pit of talk, not for gaming but for topics that other sites based on those topics already have, this site usually covers gaming, sure it covers films but most of the time it's gaming and last I checked gaming wasn't all down to race/gender/sexism crap talk.

I don't visit here often anymore, I might post a few times but I;m utterly disappointed in what the site has become, I remember being a viewer back in 06/07 and joining in 2010 and for a time it was good, but ever since GG and Anita and all the other surrounding crap I felt the need to find other sites that retain what this site used to be like, I shouldn't have to do that but I did.

 

[Evonisia]

Good to see that the Assassin's Creed lady is still getting work.

What is with this focus on realism? I know they mean grounded in its own reality, but honestly the realism card always serve to annoy me (especially because magic is in that frigging world).

I'm not familiar with the first two games, but I certainly hope racism means more than just Humans being assholes to non-Humans like it usually does.

 

[Chriss_m]

Can't wait to grab this and see how my PC handles it.

Shame about the thread though, it shows how downtordden the ES has come to, I mean this is a thread with Witcher 3 gameplay and the majority is squawking too much about the line of Racism/Sex and suddenly it's like I've entered Tumblr all over again, ever since GG and before it this place has just been a sess pit of talk, not for gaming but for topics that other sites based on those topics already have, this site usually covers gaming, sure it covers films but most of the time it's gaming and last I checked gaming wasn't all down to race/gender/sexism crap talk.

I don't visit here often anymore, I might post a few times but I;m utterly disappointed in what the site has become, I remember being a viewer back in 06/07 and joining in 2010 and for a time it was good, but ever since GG and Anita and all the other surrounding crap I felt the need to find other sites that retain what this site used to be like, I shouldn't have to do that but I did.

I think you should calm down, to be honest. I'm pro-GG, but I'm not talking about GG or any censorship point, and I don't know if anyone in here is an SJW, but I haven't seen any of that typical hysteria.

If you're talking about my convo with the other fellow about whether sex scenes in the game work, well, it was just a chat about the game. I think you're overreacting, frankly.

 

[DarkhoIlow]

Glorious..downright glorious!

My PC and body is ready for this game (also read the books for extra immersion). I cannot wait to explore every nook and cranny of this world.

GTA 5 PC in 2 days and then in one month we get Witcher 3 then in June Arkham Knight. The next few months are going to be pretty insane.