The Witcher 3's Sex Scenes Came From 16 Hours of Mo-Cap Data - Update

[Riot3000]

You know I know of the Witcher and I could care less about "mature" content or attempts at lambasting over peoples views of sex because in the end it just pretentious nonsense all around.

I just hope the mocapp actors have a union because this some legit exploitation right here or at least a raise.

How on Earth is it "exploitation"? The mo cap actors were paid by CDProjekt to simulate sex whilst wearing mo cap suits, probably with money. How could you even bring up the fact it's exploitation when the actors were paid for their work and did it with consent? It's not like they were at gunpoint being forced to fake fuck.

Chillax. In was made in jest I know they were not held at gunpoint just the thought of 16 hours of mocap dry hump is still 16 hours of mocap dry hump. I was taking the little jokes made earlier in thread before it took a hard nose dive from peoples baseless accusations of each other.

You know I know of the Witcher and I could care less about "mature" content or attempts at lambasting over peoples views of sex because in the end it just pretentious nonsense all around.

I just hope the mocapp actors have a union because this some legit exploitation right here or at least a raise.

How on Earth is it "exploitation"? The mo cap actors were paid by CDProjekt to simulate sex whilst wearing mo cap suits, probably with money. How could you even bring up the fact it's exploitation when the actors were paid for their work and did it with consent? It's not like they were at gunpoint being forced to fake fuck.

Well I know in some circles, prostitution is for example considered rape, because it is believed that you can't buy consent. So I guess if one took it a little further, these people were payed to simulate sex, but that isn't consent, so they were basically forced to simulate sex ergo: raped, and or exploited.

EDIT: Not that I believe Riot is in such a circle.

No way I am in that circle I just forgot it is hard to convey certain things with just text.

I personally think it should be legalized and "can't buy consent" just sounds like some new "morality" just cause reasons. Sound like the same kind of people good with hooks ups casual sex etc but as soon as money comes in the buck stops there. Man some traditionalist aspect really are hard to root out.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Sex scenes in games are cringe worthy. Mostly feel like a dumb cut scene when i want them over so i can get on with the game. Especially if they are anything like Witcher 2, every woman would through themselves at you cock just because you said Hello. It was stupid.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Because 9 times out of 10 sex scenes in movies are superfluous...

Hyperbolic evidence does not make for good support of one's claims. Not to mention that this line in particular completely ignores any post in which I compare "superfluous" sex scenes with "totally awesome" action scenes in order to illustrate how sex is arbitrarily just plain bad all the time no matter how appropriate for the story it might be, while action scenes can be as superfluous as they want to be and people will still defend them because, "It's just an action movie dude, don't get so hung-up on the story."

I'm not saying sex is arbitrarily bad. Although I do hate seeing it. However as I said Hollywood filmmakers often throw it in there for now good reason. Besides sex scenes are rarely done well in my experience. As for action scenes. Well action scenes tend to get the adrenaline going so it's easier to ignore that fact that a lot of it is superfluous. However when it comes to sex scenes, at least for myself, I find myself wondering "why the hell am I seeing this?"

I'm honestly kind of surprised how much negative feedback this statement is generating. The developers clearly think this aspect of their game is important; why is sex less worthy of attention than any other aspect of life?

It's not, but when the developer feels the need to brag about the sex scenes in their game I question the quality of the rest of it.

I love how suddenly the developer is bragging, seemingly just for the sake of being able to attach another ugly word to the subject of the news post.

Well as Jim Sterling once mentioned, romance and sex in particular, rarely amounts to more than a token mini-game which makes it even worse than when it's arbitrarily thrown into a film for no reason. So when news about the developer wasting 16 hours worth of mo cap on sex scenes comes out I have to wonder if the game has much else going for it.

You do realize the subjectivity, extremely personal one at that, that goes with your opinion in the first paragraph?
Id rather see sex then the usually shitty (IMHO) fight scenes or action scenes Hollywood puts.
Same with games for me really. Though I realize my position is subjective as all hell too.

Also, you did understand that the actual scenes are not 16 hours? 16 hours was the Mo Cap time that was required to make them. So they are probably a few minutes at most.
Why is it important? Because NO ONE before them has made scenes in this way. So this is a first. And DAMN, it is about time they use that tech for something that might be impactful.
Besides, it is all but confirmed the game starts with cuddling and talking. Only a tad more "spicy" then the Witcher 2 beginning.

Yes I knew that that didn't equate to 16 hours worth of sex scenes. However considering what I know of The Whitcher, I wouldn't have been surprised if it did. Regardless it seems like a waste of the technology to me, but then I hate watching sex.
And yes I'm aware of how subjective that is, that's why my aformentioned rule about films is MY rule not a general rule.

I dont think your idea on what The Witcher actually is has any connection to reality

It aint a waste of technology. I honestly cant think of a better use for that tech.
I mean, have you seen what 4A Games can do (animation-wise) without Mo Cap? Their high tech methods to create standard animation templates is MUCH cheaper then Mo Cap and nearing its quality.

Really? You can't think of a better use for the technology then essentially animating porn?

I think you dont know what porn is ...
Might read up on that.

This tech is already used for MANY other things. It is FAIRLY fast, very quick and precise, but also VERY expensive.
Battle animations can be done manually without such Mo Cap stuff. High Tech studios already make those this way.

Yes, but the article explicably stated 16 hours of Mo Cap was used for sex scenes. And I do know what porn is.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Because 9 times out of 10 sex scenes in movies are superfluous...

Hyperbolic evidence does not make for good support of one's claims. Not to mention that this line in particular completely ignores any post in which I compare "superfluous" sex scenes with "totally awesome" action scenes in order to illustrate how sex is arbitrarily just plain bad all the time no matter how appropriate for the story it might be, while action scenes can be as superfluous as they want to be and people will still defend them because, "It's just an action movie dude, don't get so hung-up on the story."

I'm not saying sex is arbitrarily bad. Although I do hate seeing it. However as I said Hollywood filmmakers often throw it in there for now good reason. Besides sex scenes are rarely done well in my experience. As for action scenes. Well action scenes tend to get the adrenaline going so it's easier to ignore that fact that a lot of it is superfluous. However when it comes to sex scenes, at least for myself, I find myself wondering "why the hell am I seeing this?"

I'm honestly kind of surprised how much negative feedback this statement is generating. The developers clearly think this aspect of their game is important; why is sex less worthy of attention than any other aspect of life?

It's not, but when the developer feels the need to brag about the sex scenes in their game I question the quality of the rest of it.

I love how suddenly the developer is bragging, seemingly just for the sake of being able to attach another ugly word to the subject of the news post.

Well as Jim Sterling once mentioned, romance and sex in particular, rarely amounts to more than a token mini-game which makes it even worse than when it's arbitrarily thrown into a film for no reason. So when news about the developer wasting 16 hours worth of mo cap on sex scenes comes out I have to wonder if the game has much else going for it.

You do realize the subjectivity, extremely personal one at that, that goes with your opinion in the first paragraph?
Id rather see sex then the usually shitty (IMHO) fight scenes or action scenes Hollywood puts.
Same with games for me really. Though I realize my position is subjective as all hell too.

Also, you did understand that the actual scenes are not 16 hours? 16 hours was the Mo Cap time that was required to make them. So they are probably a few minutes at most.
Why is it important? Because NO ONE before them has made scenes in this way. So this is a first. And DAMN, it is about time they use that tech for something that might be impactful.
Besides, it is all but confirmed the game starts with cuddling and talking. Only a tad more "spicy" then the Witcher 2 beginning.

Yes I knew that that didn't equate to 16 hours worth of sex scenes. However considering what I know of The Whitcher, I wouldn't have been surprised if it did. Regardless it seems like a waste of the technology to me, but then I hate watching sex.
And yes I'm aware of how subjective that is, that's why my aformentioned rule about films is MY rule not a general rule.

I dont think your idea on what The Witcher actually is has any connection to reality

It aint a waste of technology. I honestly cant think of a better use for that tech.
I mean, have you seen what 4A Games can do (animation-wise) without Mo Cap? Their high tech methods to create standard animation templates is MUCH cheaper then Mo Cap and nearing its quality.

Really? You can't think of a better use for the technology then essentially animating porn?

I think you dont know what porn is ...
Might read up on that.

This tech is already used for MANY other things. It is FAIRLY fast, very quick and precise, but also VERY expensive.
Battle animations can be done manually without such Mo Cap stuff. High Tech studios already make those this way.

Yes, but the article explicably stated 16 hours of Mo Cap was used for sex scenes. And I do know what porn is.

I read the original source.
16 hours was the time it took to do these scenes. That is how I understood it then and how it now is confirmed to be. The scenes will, for better or worse, be probably several minutes in total.

I am sorry, from your comment I thought you somehow (on the internet!!! still, possible... who knows) I thought you did not know.
I mean... there is a big difference between The Witcher and porn

Yes I realize that 16 hours worth of Mo Cap doesn't necessarily equate to 16 hours worth of sex scenes.
And yes there is a big difference between the Witcher and porn. Porn is done better. :Þ

 

[BarrelsOfDouche]

Admittedly the sex scenes from The Witcher 2 were really quite good. Modeled and animated well enough to be identifiable as actual sex without looking like the puppet sex from Team America: World Police...and the character dynamic, music, and context made it romantic enough to not just be sex for the sake of fan service or smut.

It didn't need to either, and I HATE using the word 'smut'...people have sex all the time without their being necessary context.

This is a bit ironic, because the "sex" in the original Witcher game was kind of distasteful and disappointed...and reducing the act down to a card-collecting minigame is stupid.

It's almost like the devs knew that they screwed up, so for the Sequel they fixed things up the best they could.




And to the individuals who cite this as "controversial"...it's a non-debate. Sex happens in media and there's nothing wrong with portraying it...tasteful or otherwise.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Because 9 times out of 10 sex scenes in movies are superfluous...

Hyperbolic evidence does not make for good support of one's claims. Not to mention that this line in particular completely ignores any post in which I compare "superfluous" sex scenes with "totally awesome" action scenes in order to illustrate how sex is arbitrarily just plain bad all the time no matter how appropriate for the story it might be, while action scenes can be as superfluous as they want to be and people will still defend them because, "It's just an action movie dude, don't get so hung-up on the story."

I'm not saying sex is arbitrarily bad. Although I do hate seeing it. However as I said Hollywood filmmakers often throw it in there for now good reason. Besides sex scenes are rarely done well in my experience. As for action scenes. Well action scenes tend to get the adrenaline going so it's easier to ignore that fact that a lot of it is superfluous. However when it comes to sex scenes, at least for myself, I find myself wondering "why the hell am I seeing this?"

I'm honestly kind of surprised how much negative feedback this statement is generating. The developers clearly think this aspect of their game is important; why is sex less worthy of attention than any other aspect of life?

It's not, but when the developer feels the need to brag about the sex scenes in their game I question the quality of the rest of it.

I love how suddenly the developer is bragging, seemingly just for the sake of being able to attach another ugly word to the subject of the news post.

Well as Jim Sterling once mentioned, romance and sex in particular, rarely amounts to more than a token mini-game which makes it even worse than when it's arbitrarily thrown into a film for no reason. So when news about the developer wasting 16 hours worth of mo cap on sex scenes comes out I have to wonder if the game has much else going for it.

You do realize the subjectivity, extremely personal one at that, that goes with your opinion in the first paragraph?
Id rather see sex then the usually shitty (IMHO) fight scenes or action scenes Hollywood puts.
Same with games for me really. Though I realize my position is subjective as all hell too.

Also, you did understand that the actual scenes are not 16 hours? 16 hours was the Mo Cap time that was required to make them. So they are probably a few minutes at most.
Why is it important? Because NO ONE before them has made scenes in this way. So this is a first. And DAMN, it is about time they use that tech for something that might be impactful.
Besides, it is all but confirmed the game starts with cuddling and talking. Only a tad more "spicy" then the Witcher 2 beginning.

Yes I knew that that didn't equate to 16 hours worth of sex scenes. However considering what I know of The Whitcher, I wouldn't have been surprised if it did. Regardless it seems like a waste of the technology to me, but then I hate watching sex.
And yes I'm aware of how subjective that is, that's why my aformentioned rule about films is MY rule not a general rule.

I dont think your idea on what The Witcher actually is has any connection to reality

It aint a waste of technology. I honestly cant think of a better use for that tech.
I mean, have you seen what 4A Games can do (animation-wise) without Mo Cap? Their high tech methods to create standard animation templates is MUCH cheaper then Mo Cap and nearing its quality.

Really? You can't think of a better use for the technology then essentially animating porn?

I think you dont know what porn is ...
Might read up on that.

This tech is already used for MANY other things. It is FAIRLY fast, very quick and precise, but also VERY expensive.
Battle animations can be done manually without such Mo Cap stuff. High Tech studios already make those this way.

Yes, but the article explicably stated 16 hours of Mo Cap was used for sex scenes. And I do know what porn is.

I read the original source.
16 hours was the time it took to do these scenes. That is how I understood it then and how it now is confirmed to be. The scenes will, for better or worse, be probably several minutes in total.

I am sorry, from your comment I thought you somehow (on the internet!!! still, possible... who knows) I thought you did not know.
I mean... there is a big difference between The Witcher and porn

Yes I realize that 16 hours worth of Mo Cap doesn't necessarily equate to 16 hours worth of sex scenes.
And yes there is a big difference between the Witcher and porn. Porn is done better. :Þ

It is better at being porn then The Witcher.
Jacking off (was that the correct EN expression?) is going to be much better with porn.

The Witcher is more erotic then pornographic. And usually it is to establish one or both characters in the scene, for humour, or in the sake of realism.

I was kidding. I haven't played the Witcher beyond a few hours of the first one and I didn't care for the sex in it. So I don't know how it's done in the sequels.

 

[Mangue Surfer]

Playing Dragon Age Inquisition now. The sex, the battles, the jumping everything is so poorly animated that any news about animation done right is refreshing. Besides, in my culture, sex is not big deal. So, whatever. I just don't wanna be Metal Geared by a 30 min. long initial scene.