The World Does Not Hate Captain America

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Stalydan

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Abandon4093 said:
fix-the-spade said:
One thing though, why has Thor out performed First Class? That ain't right.
I agree, first class was the best comic movie to come out in the past few years. (not seen Cap A, but I can't see my liking it more than FC.)
I have yet to see First Class but I can say this. Put me down as saying that Captain America is my favourite film of this year. No, I don't read the comics except from the odd story I'm told is a good read. No, I don't like just any superhero film. If a film sucks, just because the main character is wearing spandex and punching up a purse thief doesn't mean that I'll like it anymore. Captain America: The First Avenger is just a damn good film, not only for the superhero genre but also for action and war. Chris Evans plays the character so well and the ballsy ending was a great way to leave me looking forward to The Avengers.

And I'm honestly surprised. Iron Man was a great film and the sequel was fairly good too which I wasn't expecting really because I wasn't really a fan of the Iron Man Animated Series. Thor was unexpectedly excellent because... WOW! They made a film about the space Viking really engaging (I don't care that people said it was a kids film, I'd be surprised if you tried pitching that idea as a serious film for adults). And now Captain America which I could also easily say I was not expecting to be good until I saw that first trailer OwO
 

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Sixcess said:
The irony is that Captain America has never been a "America Fuck Yeah" character. In fact he's probably got a stronger track record than most for criticising mindless jingoism. You want unconditional admiration of the USA just look to Superman...
I've always thought of the mentality behind Captain America to be more of an icon for Americans to aspire to be more like. Captain America ACTUALLY stands for truth, justice, and the American way, and will call out people who don't. Superman, however, can do whatever the hell he wants... he's kind of an entitled prick that way...

Also, Captain America started out as a basically average guy, who only had his virtues to go on. Superman is (one of the) last survivor(s) of a dead, godlike race, and has very little standing against him other than random green rocks and a retrospectively incompetent bald guy..
 

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Kurokami said:
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He's just wrong for Green Latern, but perfect for Deadpool.
Disagree. Yes he's a fantastic actor, but he's not loud, not vulgar, and not rough sounding enough to play Deadpool imo.
What? He's comedic roles have been nothing but loud and vulgar. Van Wilder anyone? Wade Wilson is practically made for him.
 

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Meh theres no "AMURCA FUCK YEAH" in the film, its proletysing is more about being a good person in general.
there were fuck yeahs in my theater.


also, about ruining ryan rynold's career, i blame the director. well, he still might make it up in the DEADPOOL adaption if the director remembers how bat shit insane it should be.
 

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Ryan Reynolds had a career? When did that happen?

It's surprising to see people responding well to Captain America. No matter how hard you try he's always going to be a bit jingoistic and that puts some people off.
 

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Well, its not like they go bashing you over the head with the patriotism.
Its just a really good story of a super hero who just happens to be named "Captain America." No real reason to hate it.
 

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deckai said:
I don't know, I don't have enough knowledge of comics, to discuss his deadpool performance, but I just can't see him in any semi-serious role.... I like him as an actor, but my impression is, that he reached his peak with party animals.
Trust me. Forget your preconceived notions and watch Buried. He is unrecognisable from his Van Wilder/Blade/Two Guys era.

As mentioned before, that what counts are the box-office results.
Counts toward what?

I pretty much knew that First Class would not do as well as the other super hero movies this year, the reason for this is that some uninformed people just saw it as another xmen movie, and after the trash last one, likely skipped it. In reality it's the best x-men so far.
 

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I'm from the UK and very pro-British and i like like joke about yanks, but i've seen Captain America twice because it is a great film. It's not like other american WW2 based films which omit other allied nations or are super gung ho 'U-S-A'. It's there to entertain and it does.
 

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Captain america did great because he's the ideal hero who always fights for what's right.

P.S. I'm canadian if you're wondering.
 

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Always found the character more amusing than offensive, to be honest.

fix-the-spade said:
they don't take the America part of the name too seriously
But what are we left with, then? Captain?

You know, someone needs to make a new superhero and call him Captain Lieutenant or something, just to confuse people.
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
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Only three nations opted to use the shorter title of The First Avenger - Russia, Ukraine and South Korea - but that's kind of expected given the political leanings of those countries. (As my father-in-law would say, "Screw those commie pinkos."
Second of all, why the South Korea remark? Their political leanings are really pro-American as far as they go in that region.
A surprising amount of people assume there's little difference between South Korea and North Korea. They still seem to understand that there's some difference between North and South America, though.

Cogwheel said:
You know, someone needs to make a new superhero and call him Captain Lieutenant or something, just to confuse people.
"Master Chief"?
 

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thaluikhain said:
Cogwheel said:
You know, someone needs to make a new superhero and call him Captain Lieutenant or something, just to confuse people.
"Master Chief"?
Fair point. Still not confusing enough, though.

I vote for Commander Haddocksalad.
 

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soapyshooter said:
You know why? Because it was the right kind of patriotism, not this
http://www.omelete.com.br/capitao-america-o-primeiro-vingador/cinema/capitao-america-o-primeiro-vingador-critica/

http://www.parana-online.com.br/colunistas/332/87316/

http://oglobo.globo.com/blogs/cinema/posts/2011/07/23/comic-con-um-capitao-america-bastardo-inglorio-chato-394030.asp


THose 3 sites are the most visited pages about reviews in Brazil (one of the first countries to open Cap. America - First Avenger). Reviews said it was an Ok fim, they realised that the 1940 and 1950's Cap. America was toned down to appeal an international audience. Cap. America 21 first century is like the second review says: the guy who is using the costume is a good guy, with that any person can relate.
 

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I find it funny as a long time comic reader how everyone says that people liked it because Cap's big schtick is about being a good person and doing the right thing rather than being all america up in people's faces.

Because this is NORMAL for captain america. Even in the 70's during the cold war he was pretty much just a super hero boy scout.

The marvel civil war he was the one that went against the gov't.
 

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I saw it in Australia. My wife and I sat next to an obviously muslim couple as the woman was wearing a hijab.

The movie was fantastic, easily in my opinion the best Marvel effort to date. Yes - I liked it more than Iron Man.
 

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Maybe I'm just a horrible person, but I'm usually a cynic, and I always enjoy Ryan Reynolds in movies. Granted I have not seen, nor will I ever see Green lantern, so I cannot comment on his performance there.

Is there a memo I missed that says Ryan Reynolds is a bad actor?
 

Kakashi on crack

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I just find it hilarious that the movie with a low budget did twice as good as a movie that cost the industry 200 million XD

Still, loved the captain america movie, I advise everyone to go see it. :)