The World Does Not Hate Captain America

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PrinceofPersia

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Snowalker said:
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Oh, Green Lantern. I think you may have single-handedly ruined Ryan Reynolds career. And for that, we thank you.
Speak for yourself, he's a good actor, Waiting and Buried? Hell, he was even decent in Blade and Wolverine even though those movies sucked. He has the tendency to be in bad movies, not being a bad actor.
It is a little bit of both actually. Put Ryan in a role that he can work with and study he's good to go. Rush him and create a role that is a mishmash of traits with no real character and even he stumbles.
 

Joseph Alexander

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Ryan Reynolds is like Nicolas Cage in a way, they only do one role good.
for Nicolas cage that is batshit insane.
for Ryan its a deadpan snarker who annoys his opponents into a blind rage.
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
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Only three nations opted to use the shorter title of The First Avenger - Russia, Ukraine and South Korea - but that's kind of expected given the political leanings of those countries. (As my father-in-law would say, "Screw those commie pinkos."
First of all, Russia. Unfortunate. That's not what we want out public image to be, is it? I mean, yeah, it probably wouldn't do so well in Russia under the title "Captain America", but removing that part is just... kinda shifty.

Second of all, why the South Korea remark? Their political leanings are really pro-American as far as they go in that region.
I was stepping up to support South Korea but you beat me to it.

The S.Koreans have to be really careful since their Northern cousins are on their doorstep with nuclear bombs and a 9 and a half million strong army! Give them a break :/

As for Captain America, I haven't seen it yet but I've liked most of the other Marvel films and I've heard good things here in the UK.
 

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Can't help you with unhinged, though. Maybe in Captain America 3, the Super Soldier serum can cause him to comb his hair forward in an emo fringe and tango.
That's not unhinged. That's... I don't even know.

Spawn is unhinged. I prefer anti-heroes.
Yeah, I was just joking because of Spider-Man 3 and the whole "I'm evil now, so I'll imitate Saturday Night Fever and REALLY enjoy pie" thing.

Spawn would make a really good movie, given the current them of "make everything dark and gritty." They just need to keep Sid the Sloth out of it.

...Ah, Hell, it'd probably be directed by Michael Bay starring Shia LaBeef.
 

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Greg Tito said:
"We are very pleased with Captain America's international results so far, which clearly demonstrate the worldwide popularity of the iconic lead character as well as the continuing power of 3D at the box office," said Paramount Pictures International president Andrew Cripps.
The only reason I saw it in 3D, was because that's all the cinema bloody offered!!! :mad:

But anyway i still enjoyed the movie.
 

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You know, someone needs to make a new superhero and call him Captain Lieutenant or something, just to confuse people.
"Master Chief"?
This has to stop! Master Chief Petty Officer, or MCPO is an actual rank in the US navy. They're called Master Chiefs for short. The Halo character is called Master Chief Petty Officer John-117, but he needed a nickname so friends just call him Chief.

I actually enjoyed Green Lantern more than Thor. Green Lantern had awful trailers though, I wouldn't have seen it at all if it wasn't for free tickets. I expected to hate it and was pleasantly surprised. It wasn't great, but how many movies about guys in spandex are? First Class was pretty sweet though...

My complaint about Captain America isn't about the Captain or America, but Red Skull and Hydra. I felt "Agent" Schmidt was pretty dull as a villain, and Hydra...I'm all for evil Nazi experiments, but the Hydra tech was just ridiculous.

And on Reynolds, how many actors do you really see playing more than one or two characters over and over again? In many movies he's in, Reynolds is the only thing I actually enjoy watching. And he does have a couple of genuinely good films under his belt.
 

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excalipoor said:
thaluikhain said:
Cogwheel said:
You know, someone needs to make a new superhero and call him Captain Lieutenant or something, just to confuse people.
"Master Chief"?
This has to stop! Master Chief Petty Officer, or MCPO is an actual rank in the US navy. They're called Master Chiefs for short. The Halo character is called Master Chief Petty Officer John-117, but he needed a nickname so friends just call him Chief.
While that is true (and it's not like Lt.Colonels or Major Generals are an alien concept), he seems to be referred to as "Master Chief" almsot exclusively in most media. Sure, you could call a superhero "Captain" if they actually held that rank, and almost never mention their name (or service), but it doesn't strike me as a good idea.
 

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Sixcess said:
The irony is that Captain America has never been a "America Fuck Yeah" character. In fact he's probably got a stronger track record than most for criticising mindless jingoism. You want unconditional admiration of the USA just look to Superman...
Thank You! You know a lot of people on this very site were bitching about Cap having a movie made about him because "it was just going to be a flag waving dick slinging movie". Cap has never been about that. Actually, Captain America is just an all around nice guy. He's a soldier, but he has broken the law before if he saw it unjust or immorale (think Civil War).
 

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Zing said:
Trust me. Forget your preconceived notions and watch Buried. He is unrecognisable from his Van Wilder/Blade/Two Guys era.
I heard about it just recently, I intend to watch it in the near future.

Counts toward what?

I pretty much knew that First Class would not do as well as the other super hero movies this year, the reason for this is that some uninformed people just saw it as another xmen movie, and after the trash last one, likely skipped it. In reality it's the best x-men so far.
Counts for the studio, they rarely care for more than the box-office results. Even if a movie creates a few dedicated fans, as long as it doesn't make enough at the box-office, it's highly unlikely to get a sequel. For First Class, I liked it but don't know if it's the best, I liked the first 3 (even wolverine wasn't a complete disaster in my eyes) for their campy-ness, but on the other hand, I'm not a dedicated X-men fan/buff/comic-reader as others.
 

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The Rogue Wolf said:
Maybe international audiences are pining for the days when "I'm an American" was a statement of quiet pride, rather than a shout of macho superiority.

Full disclosure: I'm an American.
That's not true. I doubt international audiences would pine for anything resembling a monopolistic statement--America is a Continent, not a Country. Or at least it is in a global sense, not a domestic one.

Either way, it seems a fair number of our fellow Americans are genuinely surprised to learn that it is not them but the actions of their government that people everywhere else don't like.

Hell, even I can deal with good ol' cap.
 

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I think movieBob described it pretty well when he described Captain America, "He's patriotic, but not in a douche-baggey way," thus making him a bit more approachable.
 

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I'm glad that people realise that underneath the patriotism, Captain America's actually an interesting and solid superhero.
 

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I wonder if they'll ever do "Captain Mexico"; he'll do Captain America's job for half the price.
 

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Captain America was a decent movie. And it wasnt barf-worthy on the nationalism either. My only gripe with it is that Captain America has to be the most boring super-hero ever. He is like super-man. Without the powers, and the story of being from another planet.

The only two times CA has been interesting imo is when he fought other super heroes in civil war, and when he died.

The movie was popcorn worthy though. Not nearly as good as Iron Man, nor as interesting as Thor...but decent enough.
 

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Luke3184 said:
Snowalker said:
Greg Tito said:
Oh, Green Lantern. I think you may have single-handedly ruined Ryan Reynolds career. And for that, we thank you.
Speak for yourself, he's a good actor, Waiting and Buried? Hell, he was even decent in Blade and Wolverine even though those movies sucked. He has the tendency to be in bad movies, not being a bad actor.
Blasphemy, Blade trinity was the movie of my early teens! But yeah I agree he is a pretty damn good actor...
Blade Trinity was probably not the best Blade movie. It did kind of suck. However, Reynolds is a really good actor, and he's funny to boot. I would really like to see a revamped Deadpool movie with him in lead.
 

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Fbuh said:
Luke3184 said:
Snowalker said:
Greg Tito said:
Oh, Green Lantern. I think you may have single-handedly ruined Ryan Reynolds career. And for that, we thank you.
Speak for yourself, he's a good actor, Waiting and Buried? Hell, he was even decent in Blade and Wolverine even though those movies sucked. He has the tendency to be in bad movies, not being a bad actor.
Blasphemy, Blade trinity was the movie of my early teens! But yeah I agree he is a pretty damn good actor...
Blade Trinity was probably not the best Blade movie. It did kind of suck. However, Reynolds is a really good actor, and he's funny to boot. I would really like to see a revamped Deadpool movie with him in lead.
You'll be pleased to know a prequel to X-men origins is planned, with him reprising the role. And personally I found it to be the better one, the first having the bouncy blood god and the second a meh horror theme.

P.S I ate a lot of garlic earlier... And I just farted
 
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Snowalker said:
Greg Tito said:
Oh, Green Lantern. I think you may have single-handedly ruined Ryan Reynolds career. And for that, we thank you.
Speak for yourself, he's a good actor, Waiting and Buried? Hell, he was even decent in Blade and Wolverine even though those movies sucked. He has the tendency to be in bad movies, not being a bad actor.
damn straight,

i actually do like some of his less popular films, such as:

chaos theory, definitely maybe, and just friends (the proposal was..ehh)

also in change up he did pretty damn well in role reversal on what the movie was trying to accomplish, IMO

plus he is confirmed as deadpool in the deadpool movie, so haters gonna hate, but he's gonna rock that roll amazingly.

Kurokami said:
Zing said:
He's just wrong for Green Latern, but perfect for Deadpool.
but he's not loud, not vulgar, and not rough sounding enough to play Deadpool imo.
he's not loud and not vulgar...

wait what?

are we..what have you watched that he was in?

because obviously not what i have seen...
 
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VanityGirl said:
Sixcess said:
The irony is that Captain America has never been a "America Fuck Yeah" character. In fact he's probably got a stronger track record than most for criticising mindless jingoism. You want unconditional admiration of the USA just look to Superman...
Thank You! You know a lot of people on this very site were bitching about Cap having a movie made about him because "it was just going to be a flag waving dick slinging movie". Cap has never been about that. Actually, Captain America is just an all around nice guy. He's a soldier, but he has broken the law before if he saw it unjust or immorale (think Civil War).
boom.

hell that was the WHOLE DAMN POINT of ultimate avengers 2 (i played it on the wii, not sure if it was on other systems)

Cap was the one against the goverment listings of superheroes and their identities while ironman was all for it, and cap was willing to fight against america/the government to make sure his ideals were upheld (original american ideals,freedom,freedom of speech, etc..)
 

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fix-the-spade said:
One thing though, why has Thor out performed First Class? That ain't right.
I remember being REALLY surprised by how good First Class was, and that makes me think it was hurt not only by lackluster advertising, but also by how poorly received X-men 3 and Origins:Wolverine were by fans.

Thor, on the other hand, had advertising everywhere, was on the tail of a pretty good Iron Man sequel, and was around the time that whisperings of an "Avengers" movie mash-up started.