There's no immersion in 3rd person games
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Persona 3 anyone? Before I knew it I had logged in eighty hours into the game. Could not put this thing down for about a week and a half. I did take a break when I realized I was close to the end, I need to set aside some time and knock it out finally.
The perspective a game uses matters far less than whether a game world and the characters in it have personality. Most first person games lack either of these which is kind of sad really but is to be expected since the people making those kinds of games are absolutely terrified of making a game with decent characters for the most part. It has never really made sense to me how so many first person games lack even an attempt to make decent characters when the core gameplay across the board is almost exactly the same for every single one of those games.
The perspective a game uses matters far less than whether a game world and the characters in it have personality. Most first person games lack either of these which is kind of sad really but is to be expected since the people making those kinds of games are absolutely terrified of making a game with decent characters for the most part. It has never really made sense to me how so many first person games lack even an attempt to make decent characters when the core gameplay across the board is almost exactly the same for every single one of those games.
This was admittedly a while ago (2002 I think), but I was pretty immersed in the first Ratchet And Clank game. When you're not being picked off by ten million snipers in Farcry, the scenery at least is pretty immersive.
I also second Vincent9mm, RTS games can be among the most immersive sorts of games around. Even the cheesy cut-scenes (love them or hate them) of the Red Alert series cannot detach you from the storyline.
I also second Vincent9mm, RTS games can be among the most immersive sorts of games around. Even the cheesy cut-scenes (love them or hate them) of the Red Alert series cannot detach you from the storyline.
i thought gears of war 1 and 2 are reli immersive when ur under ground cause there reli dark and things jump ou of now where at you
but gears 1 and 2 are a swithcable between 1st and 3rd person shooter for aiming
but gears 1 and 2 are a swithcable between 1st and 3rd person shooter for aiming
I was immeresed in Dead Space.
Loved Mass Effect, if you don't love star wars, or star trek even a little(like me, patrick Stewart ftw!). You had to love the game for its aliens, its awesome side-quests, its short but sweat main game, but I didn't think it screwed up aiming.
Loved Mass Effect, if you don't love star wars, or star trek even a little(like me, patrick Stewart ftw!). You had to love the game for its aliens, its awesome side-quests, its short but sweat main game, but I didn't think it screwed up aiming.
Actually I find this the opposite, I can't get immersed in a first person game because the developers tend to slack on the story and gameplay to favor of the "It's you in the game" excuse. Third person games tend to put a little more effort into the main characters. Of course there are exceptions.
Anyone ever play Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth? Immersed the hell out of me. Far Cry 2 was good for that too, especially the whole 'impromptu surgery' thing, if you could call digging a bullet out of yourself with a knife surgery. However, did anyone else find it weird you could put out a fire on a car and then have it fully repaired by tightening a bolt on the front for a bit?
I found myself immersed in Mount and Blade, although it doesn't really have a story (unless you play a mod for it, but since that's most people I guess that's not a problem).
I'm constantly growing my empire, seiging castles and the like, and I've almost put my perspective into that of my little on-screen warlord.
I was also immersed in Deus Ex, so I don't really think it has anything to do with Third or First Person View, at least not for me.
I'm constantly growing my empire, seiging castles and the like, and I've almost put my perspective into that of my little on-screen warlord.
I was also immersed in Deus Ex, so I don't really think it has anything to do with Third or First Person View, at least not for me.
I know I'm kind of ressurecting an old topic, but since people alaways say "use the search button" I did. Anyway, I wanted to talk about this subject again. For I think that 3rd person games are actually a step closer to immersion than first person. And I'll tell you WHY...
1: Body Awareness. Sure, technically we all see from a first person perspective, but we are always quite aware of what is around us. The first person view cannot immitate this feeling you have in real life where if someone is to the side of you, you can sense that they are there through the CORNER OF YOUR EYE. First Person perspective constrains you to whatever the character is looking at DIRECTLY.
Third Person, especially Behind-the-Shoulder, captures this feeling precisely. You are not aware of what is behind you unless it touches you, you have a greater sense of awareness, and you still feel as though YOU ARE the character, as opposed to a camera stuck on top of someone;s head.
Anyway, tell me what you think.
1: Body Awareness. Sure, technically we all see from a first person perspective, but we are always quite aware of what is around us. The first person view cannot immitate this feeling you have in real life where if someone is to the side of you, you can sense that they are there through the CORNER OF YOUR EYE. First Person perspective constrains you to whatever the character is looking at DIRECTLY.
Third Person, especially Behind-the-Shoulder, captures this feeling precisely. You are not aware of what is behind you unless it touches you, you have a greater sense of awareness, and you still feel as though YOU ARE the character, as opposed to a camera stuck on top of someone;s head.
Anyway, tell me what you think.