This is not a thread about Feminism!

[saxist01]

Okay, so I have a friend who makes the claim that she is a feminist, although by her own admission not a very good one. (she does like sexist humor) However, she tends to take things in the opposite direction most of the time. By that, I mean she worries more about equality for men than women.

For those of you going, "WHA?!" we are of course not talking about equality in the workplace and equality of pay. What she concerns herself with are the social stigmas that are placed upon men, that she deems unfair. Her most specific argument being, "it is socially acceptable for women to wear pants, but socially unacceptable for men to wear skirts."

Using this example, my counter-argument was always, "the difference between getting equality for women (feminism) and getting this equality for men (masculinism), is that most men don't really WANT to wear skirts."

So I ask you: Men - Do any of you have the desire to be able to wear skirts? And is this desire suppressed by the society you live in? Or, are you quite content with the social constraints placed upon you? (the pants-only public)

Women - Do you wish that this kind of pants-only constraint that is placed on men is something that needs to be changed? Do you not care whether or not men can wear pants? Or, is this kind of thinking a little weird?

EDIT: I was under the impression that a kilt was NOT a skirt. (despite visual similarities) During out discussion, I was thinking more along the lines of mini-skirts and sun dresses.

 

[Gxas]

I would wear a kilt. For sure, no doubt in my mind.

 

[wolfy098]

It is socially unacceptable to wear skirts as a male because most men won't wear skirts

if men can't wear pants what do they wear?

 

[NeutralDrow]

I have no desire to wear a skirt, mostly because I'm not interested in cross-dressing and there's no way I could pass enough for a woman to cosplay one.

if men can't wear pants what do they wear?

Assless chaps?

 

[Clashero]

Meh, if it was normal and socially acceptable, I'd go ahead and wear a kilt.
I think your friend is the best kind of feminist: the one actually looking for equality, not superiority.

 

[Deleted]

If a man bangs a lot of chicks, he's praised.
If a woman bangs a lot of guys, she's a whore.

If a man takes care of a child while the wife works he's a pussy.
If the wife stays at home while the man works she's caged.

I always tell those 'social norm challengers' to take off their clothes if they think its ']inappropiate' for a girl to be topless while a guy can.

 

[Kimarous]

The fact of the matter is that men in skirts (as opposed to kilts) just looks weird.

Spoiler: Case in point...

 

[Kasawd]

Not only are kilts fucking awesome in the epic amounts of comfiness(Word?) they allow, I would love to wear a pink frilly skirt to work.

I really would. Also, this hitting thing. If a girl hits me, I am going to smack back, that is just how it goes. I know plenty of girls capable of kicking ass. Martial arts beat the men vs. women thing right outta' you.

 

[Player 2]

They wear skirts in Scotland, and nobody thinks they're a bunch of drunken ginger weirdos who don't speak proper English, so I really don't see the issue.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

I think it's stupid for anyone to wear skirts, male or female. They inhibit leg movement and sometimes let unwelcome people see your junk.

 

[Cliff_m85]

Okay, so I have a friend who makes the claim that she is a feminist, although by her own admission not a very good one. (she does like sexist humor) However, she tends to take things in the opposite direction most of the time. By that, I mean she worries more about equality for men than women.

For those of you going, "WHA?!" we are of course not talking about equality in the workplace and equality of pay. What she concerns herself with are the social stigmas that are placed upon men, that she deems unfair. Her most specific argument being, "it is socially acceptable for women to wear pants, but socially unacceptable for men to wear skirts."

Using this example, my counter-argument was always, "the difference between getting equality for women (feminism) and getting this equality for men (masculinism), is that most men don't really WANT to wear skirts."

So I ask you: Men - Do any of you have the desire to be able to wear skirts? And is this desire suppressed by the society you live in? Or, are you quite content with the social constraints placed upon you? (the pants-only public)

Women - Do you wish that this kind of pants-only constraint that is placed on men is something that needs to be changed? Do you not care whether or not men can wear pants? Or, is this kind of thinking a little weird?

EDIT: Where did the poll go? How do I get it back?

I dressed up a Frank N Furter for Halloween last year. Who gives a shit about society? Just do what you dig, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

Also, women are getting paid equally just so you know. The difference being that men take retardedly stupid jobs that have a high risk of death or injury. Women tend not to.

 

[Mana Fiend]

Though not to do with the dress, I always interests me that men are often portrayed as dumb in television adverts. Of course, I'm only talking from what I see as a UK viewer, but it seems to me that men get the short straw. For once, I'd like to see an advert when the men know the number for the loan company, or the site that organises holidays. Would just be a breath of fresh air, is all .

Of course, I'm generalising here, and on the topic of skirts, I wouldn't wear one, though I've always wanted to try out a kilt. However, being english I'd feel a bit of a fool.

 

[Cliff_m85]

I think it's stupid for anyone to wear skirts, male or female. They inhibit leg movement and sometimes let unwelcome people see your junk.

I approve of anyone wearing skirts, because they sometimes let me see your junk.

 

[saxist01]

In general I understand kilts, those have a significant social standing in Scotland. Generally, my friend was talking about things like mini-skirts, and sun dresses.

Also: I had a poll for this, how can I get one up now?

 

[Aqualung]

Women - Do you wish that this kind of pants-only constraint that is placed on men is something that needs to be changed? Do you not care whether or not men can wear pants? Or, is this kind of thinking a little weird?

Er... I prefer my guys with pants, thanks. >_>

 

[Akai Shizuku]

I think it's stupid for anyone to wear skirts, male or female. They inhibit leg movement and sometimes let unwelcome people see your junk.

I approve of anyone wearing skirts, because they sometimes let me see your junk.

You like looking at men's junk?

 

[saxist01]

Though not to do with the dress, I always interests me that men are often portrayed as dumb in television adverts. Of course, I'm only talking from what I see as a UK viewer, but it seems to me that men get the short straw. For once, I'd like to see an advert when the men know the number for the loan company, or the site that organises holidays. Would just be a breath of fresh air, is all .

Of course, I'm generalising here, and on the topic of skirts, I wouldn't wear one, though I've always wanted to try out a kilt. However, being english I'd feel a bit of a fool.

Yeah, these advertisements also kinda piss me off. Namely because, as a white male - I'm not a dumb, neanderthal, skirt chaser

 

[HolographicCharizard]

Really feminism does concern itself with this kind of thing, they focus on gender issues, as in the traits we assign the different biological sexes, so she generally is a good feminist in this case. and hell yeah I would wear a skirt.

Dudes calling skirts kilts itt to not look as bad saying yes

 

[wolfy098]

Not really... I think I will leave the skirt wearing to the scots.
However that argument is stupid but she is on the right track.
Working in a restaurant/bar one thing that does annoy the fuck out of me is if two people fuck, both intoxicated, the man is considered a rapist. Does not matter that he is just as drunk as her, does not matter that she approached him, does not matter if she was the one on top. The guy still cops the blame.
So yeah, maybe its about time for people to fight for equality for men!

http://www.ukmm.org.uk/

 

[historybuff]

I don't care whether men wear skirts or not. Usually it's hilarious on the rare times that I've seen it.

But. I like manly men. So unless it's a kilt and he's gonna throw some thirty foot logs (Wooo. *fans self*) put your trousers back on.