This is not a thread about Feminism!

[magnuslion]

I would wear a kilt. For sure, no doubt in my mind.

ditto. have a few, plus my centurion armor has a knee length leather skirt.

 

[Lexodus]

Oh, yes. And the 'don't hit girls, even if they hit you'. If somebody hits me, I'm not going to give a flying fuckball what gender they are, they attacked me and I'm going to drive a Falcon PAWWWWNNCH!!!!! right into their stomach. And girls do hit. A hell of a lot.


EDIT: Also, I am androgynous enough to pull off a dress. Hell, I've been mistaken for a girl in jeans and a hoodie.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Really? do they wear those full body robes? (don't know the name)

Dishdasha. Often they don't wear anything apart from those robes as they're comfortable (and flexible enough) not to. Especially with the Arabian heat.

The women, however, tend to wear things beneath their robes. Often...interesting things.

 

[ellie91]

It is socially unacceptable to wear skirts as a male because most men won't wear skirts

if men can't wear pants what do they wear?

shorts?

anyways on topic i'm pretty darn sure that all the guys i know wouldn't be caught dead in skirts however my friend's ex did wear a skirt once or twice for some random reason, so each to their own.

 

[Gebi10000]

I'd wear a kilt anyday. I't just so friggn cold at the moment

 

[Clashero]

Really feminism does concern itself with this kind of thing, they focus on gender issues, as in the traits we assign the different biological sexes, so she generally is a good feminist in this case. and hell yeah I would wear a skirt.

Dudes calling skirts kilts itt to not look as bad saying yes

A kilt and a skirt are two different things.

 

[Alex_P]

She's not a feminist, she's an egalitarian who clearly has a sense of humor and has chosen not to be an asshole about it.

Which is far superior and a much better direction to go.

Feminism simply means promoting the rights of women, and doesn't necessarily take the entire picture into view. Egalitarianism means that everyone should have the same rights, and can choose what to do or not do with those rights by their own free choice.

"Feminism" means a lot of different things. Most of the time, it covers egalitarian ideals rather than some kind of women-only thing. In this context, the "egalitarianism" is attached to social criticism that aims to questions and soften socially-constructed gender roles and codes of gendered behavior. That's a major hallmark of modern feminist theory.

Using this example, my counter-argument was always, "the difference between getting equality for women (feminism) and getting this equality for men (masculinism), is that most men don't really WANT to wear skirts."

And part of why they don't want to is that they're following a code of gendered behavior that says that it's deeply wrong.

"Masculinism" is a problematic term. It's been adopted both by men who embrace the ideas of feminism and want to apply them to men (the opposition to traditional gender roles noted above) and by men who revel in traditional masculinity and power. So, "masculinist" activism covers the gamut from speaking out against a culture that tolerates widespread prison violence, to campaigning for stronger parental rights for fathers, to writing screeds about how female suffrage is destroying the world, to smearing rape victims in the name of male privilege. And you thought "feminism" had definition issues! (Some have started calling themselves "progressive masculinists" in an attempt to clear that up.)

-- Alex

 

[quiet_samurai]

Then she's a good feminist. A god feminist will speak for the equality of the sexes instead of the elevation of women at the expanse of men. There's a true difference between being a feminist and being a man hater, it's just the the latter are to dumb to realize it.

 

[saxist01]

Really? do they wear those full body robes? (don't know the name)

Dishdasha. Often they don't wear anything apart from those robes as they're comfortable (and flexible enough) not to. Especially with the Arabian heat.

The women, however, tend to wear things beneath their robes. Often...interesting things.

elaboration? . . . please?

 

[Arbitrary Cidin]

Ummmm... Scotland?

 

[faceless chick]

As a woman: no, I do NOT want to see men in skirts. I got enough of that when I went to France and was (conveniently) the rugby season and a lot of Scots were in Paris to watch the game.

I got to see a lot of men in skirts.One of them wore one that looked exactly like the one I wore in 4th grade.

But the real reason is:can you imagine Chewbacca in a skirt?
Can you imagine looking up his skirt, seeing those hairy legs?
Are you blind now?


This is my problem exactly.
Until men start shaving their legs(like almost all women do), I do NOT want to see them in skirts (again).
I would still laugh at them, though, since grown men would look really silly(see previous example)

 

[Numb1lp]

Yeah man, I gotta air out my junk.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

elaboration? . . . please?

I think it's best left to your imagination. I don't know how widespread the practice is.

 

[AvsJoe]

I hate not having the choice to do something regardless of whether or not I want to do it. If I was told I'm not allowed to basejump off of the Empire State building, I would be annoyed despite the fact that I wouldn't want to do it in the first place. If I was told I wasn't allowed to bungee off of the Ambassador Bridge or some other famous bridge, again, I would be annoyed. This thread isn't about skirts or kilts, it's about the inability to do something based on gender, which is precisely what feminism and equality are all about.

OP: You're friend sounds like an awesome person. You should be happy to know her.

 

[Seldon2639]

Well, all fashion is inherently normative in nature (and in this case heteronormative), but that's kind of what it's supposed to be. Society gets to decide what looks good, and has decided that men wearing skirts is just weird. Not all things which affect one gender or race more than another is discrimination. Men also don't wear makeup on a daily basis, or heels. If they do, they're assumed to be effeminate.

The difference between sexism and fashion (in my mind) is this: is anyone forcing the man or woman to dress a certain way? Is the government saying men can't buy skirts? Of course not, and (per the crossdressing thread a few days ago) plenty of men seem to enjoy wearing women's clothing. You're asking a question of societal standards, and that's always going to be less than entirely logical.

Is it discriminatory to not want to see a fat guy at the pool without a shirt? Well, yeah, you don't like to look at it, but it's also saying 'there are some modes of clothing oneself off limits to a certain group". And that's really okay. There's nothing wrong with saying that different types of people should (for the sake of fashion) dress in different ways.

 

[Klarinette]

I have no desire to wear a skirt, mostly because I'm not interested in cross-dressing and there's no way I could pass enough for a woman to cosplay one.

if men can't wear pants what do they wear?

Assless chaps?

Hahaha! Nice.
Man, if a dude wants to wear a skirt, I say go for it. The thing, though, is that he has to understand that he's going to be looked at funny, people are going to laugh, and he'll be ridiculed mercilessly. That's just how it is. Kilts, on the other hand...

 

[Akai Shizuku]

I think it's stupid for anyone to wear skirts, male or female. They inhibit leg movement and sometimes let unwelcome people see your junk.

I approve of anyone wearing skirts, because they sometimes let me see your junk.

You like looking at men's junk?

Who DOESN'T?

I really, really hope that's sarcasm.

Why would it be sarcasm?

...Wow. Just wow.

 

[Janick_Gers]

Skirt no, Kilt yes; anyone who says Scots are skirt-wearers are merely ignorant and should be forever ignored when talking about clothing. That is all
(Yes I DID just jump on the kilt bandwagon)

 

[Animated Rope]

Skirts are just clothes and most men would refuse to wear one anyway. We have better things to worry about if you ask me.

With that being said, if it's ever to be popular we need a male adaption of the skirt or dress. I think popularizing kilts(as was suggested countless times) and making new adaptions of the robe is the better alternative than simply allowing men skirts and dresses made for girls. Women have their own pants so it's only fair.

 

[Mr Wednesday]

Wait...what..I...

...oh.

Superman would win, defs.