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chaosyoshimage

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I read this earlier today and cried my eyes out. It makes feel like a coward for hiding my sexuality my whole life while other braver people lived through hell and died.
There is nothing wrong with who you love, and who you are. DO NOT EVER LET ANYONE TELL YOU OTHERWISE.

"Die on your feet, don't live on your knees."
Oh, I know that, but it isn't going to change my hiding in High School. When I finally get to go to college (Whenever the Hell that'll be), on plan on being completely honest about my sexuality even if "college" means the community college a town over where I'm sure there are plenty of rednecks and religious bigots.
 

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This is in no way acceptable. No wonder that whole area is falling deep into the recession, they have educators pushing LESS education in their schools, in addition to bigotry.

I don't believe in hell, but I certainly hope Michele Bachmann and her manipulative, uncaring, and psychotic cohorts fucking burn in it.

Some group really needs to go in there and fix this shit. It's not the fucking 20's, I mean seriously this is barbaric.
 

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Nope, not going to read it. I shouold be going to sleep, not infuriating myself. I'm just gonna say that psychos are psychotic and I thank God that we don't have to deal with this crap everywhere else.
 

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Personally I think as long as it doesn't effect you then SHUT THE F**K UP. Bloody christians.



(Should note I am actually christian, I'm talking about THOSE christian catholics. you know the ones.)
 

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Considering that one of my first cousins came of the closet just before Christmas. This makes me nervous. he's a nice guy and as far as I can tell is happy. Yet isn't that always the way?

Hmmmm. What to do? Not alot really. He lives in a fairly conservative area although my familly who are Catholic do not seem to mind as long as it's Genuine.

eh really just makes me sad. No one wants to be homosexual. So why make it even worse for them? If it was a choise I can't see anyone choosing it over being hetrosexuality.

But being pushed to suicide. Sadly I've heard of this happening many times before.
 

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Considering that one of my first cousins came of the closet just before Christmas. This makes me nervous. he's a nice guy and as far as I can tell is happy. Yet isn't that always the way?

Hmmmm. What to do? Not alot really. He lives in a fairly conservative area although my familly who are Catholic do not seem to mind as long as it's Genuine.

eh really just makes me sad. No one wants to be homosexual. So why make it even worse for them? If it was a choise I can't see anyone choosing it over being hetrosexuality.

But being pushed to suicide. Sadly I've heard of this happening many times before.
Offer him your support. Tell him if he needs to talk to someone, he has you, even if nothing else. Make it one hundred percent clear that he isn't alone. That's the most you can do, but it could make all the difference in the world.

As for "no one wants to be homosexual", speak for yourself; it's as natural and unremarkable as breathing to some people.
 

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Senseless. Unsurprising, but senseless.

I might be getting into R&P territory here, but are not Tolerance, Compassion, and Sympathy 'Traditional Christian values'?

It's ironic that the people who tend to frustrate me most in this world are other 'Christians'.
No, you're right, and I know it's a topic that I have to argue with my parents about whenever the topic of homosexuality comes up.

One of my favorite teachings is "love your enemy" just because it's so counter-intuitive but yields amazing results. Maybe I'm just old-school though I guess. Also I don't view homosexuals as enemies but I hope you see the point anyways.
I went to private Christian Middle & High schools. I saw a lot of ignorance tossed around and as the old saying goes 'you fear what you don't understand'. I still twitch every time I hear someone suggest that 'the gay' is something you can catch, like a disease or something. I will say, honestly, the nicest thing about the Christian schools is that they armed me with the very book that dispensed with their irrational fears.

Christ hung out with whore, drunks, and tax collectors. He had nothing but disdain for the 'religious'.
I too went to a catholic high school, run by a former brother, but I never ever experienced anything as deplorable as this. I don't mean to sound offensive here, but this is one problem that seems to be near endemic to the US, more specifically in your central states. I know 3rd world countries and Muslim countries have similar problems, but for the supposed pinnacle of society this is just completely unacceptable. I'm not American and I cannot begin to fathom what it is like to live in a society like this, but something must happen soon in your country, because the fact that people like Michelle Bachman can even have an influence is more frightening than anything I can imagine.
 

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Anyone think they should put these people in to that upcoming "God bless america" movie, I would love them too.

OT: Goddamn these people get me pissed off, a persons life is worth far more than any religious belief, no matter how legit. They should of seen fucking suicides and stopped, not continued. I wish that any future presidents of America see that gays are people too and decide to stop all these religious bigots from killing people due to their years old beliefs.
This isn't really an attack on religion, it's an attack on people who focus their religious time on the worst parts of their chosen religion. I know plenty of Christians and the like in real life and I'm fine with their beliefs because they don't try to make their beliefs affect other people.
 

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Appalling.

Teachers should know better. I don't care what the reason is, if you hurt one of my students or make them cry, then expect the "Angry Face". I will not have it in my classroom. Some of the material is hard enough already without trying to look at it through a blur of tears. Turning a blind eye just because you're worried about your job... shameful.

Not in my damn classroom, and not in my damn school.
 

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Regnes said:
I'm just going to say this much, I'm glad I live in Canada where we don't have to deal with this BS on anywhere near the same level as you guys.

Gay marriage for example, it's legal in Canada. Also guess what? It was legalized without a public vote. Why? Because it was deemed unconstitutional to forbid it, end of story, no religious BS barging it's way into our schools and politics.
To be fair, several US states have done the same thing as Canada and ruled that it's unconstitutionally sexist.

It just sucks that people like the ones in this article exist in such large numbers in southern states...

Here in Michigan, no one gives a shit about sexuality. Teasing like that just doesn't happen for something as silly as sexuality or gender.
 

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You know I find it repugnant when a group of people gather together and try to force their will on other people. How you cant turn on the tv, play a game, or read something on the Internet without it being browbeaten into you that your wrong if you dont agree with how they think and end up using half assed justifications to stand by their holier than thou positions. Every day being unable to escape these people trying to shove their smug sense of superiority in their personal opinions in your face. Wanting to condemn you as an inhuman monster if you dont agree . Justifying hatred, violence, and intolerance. Standing idly by as they watch others who agree with their position try to make rallying cries to justify violence and murder and take the position to extreme levels. Trying to force their agenda on everyone. To sit in judgment over the way people choose to live their lives, while trying to stick their nose into affairs they have no reason to be involved in. Then to have the audacity to try to portray themselves as the victims by assigning unrelated blame to their specific situation so people will have sympathy for them.

Yes... After reading this I am really sickened by the hatred I have read.
 

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I'm not a gay rights advocate because I feel I shouldn't need to be. The same way I shouldn't be a human rights advocate, or a pro-breathing advocate. Some things are so fucking fundamental that it should require no thought.

If two people of the same sex want to be intimate - emotionally and/or physically - it's NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS, at the very least.

To take it so far that you call them abominations and foster a climate that pushes people to suicide is unforgivable.The gall, the fucking gall of these people.

And the teachers who wouldn't intervene when a group of students pushed another student to the ground and called him '******', or when a student was openly abused in class. At some point you have to make a judgement call, and that right there jumped past 'gay issues' to 'assault'. Surely as a teacher you're gonna try and prevent students from being assaulted...right?

Frankly, I'm not even angry: I'm disgusted.
 

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I couldn't even finish reading it. That is just horrible and completely disgusting. There are many things wrong with America but that right there has got to be one of the worst.
I just really don't even know what to say about it, it's sickening.

Is it bad that I wish humans had a lower average life expectancy just so that all these horrible people would die already so we can get a generation that doesn't have all this evil hatred and prejudice inside them?
 

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ReinWeisserRitter said:
Offer him your support. Tell him if he needs to talk to someone, he has you, even if nothing else. Make it one hundred percent clear that he isn't alone. That's the most you can do, but it could make all the difference in the world.

As for "no one wants to be homosexual", speak for yourself; it's as natural and unremarkable as breathing to some people.
You miss understand (and I probably worded it badly).

His familly is okay with it. He lives 500 clicks north and has a boyfriend (last time I checked) and his boyfriend is a nice guy. His sisters also support him although they have both finished school (same with his boyfriend). Whenever I see him he doesn't have any signs of depression. Also he ran away from home because he wanted to see his boyfriend more (this might have reversed since I last saw him as I haven't seen him since about the 2nd of January).

In short as far as I can tell he is happy. And if he is not he doesn't have the personality that would commit suicide. And the most conservative familly member up there (our Grandmother) said that:

"As long as its genuine she would rather see him out of the closet than in. And she would support him" (also she is very Catholic).

I personally think it will be fine. And In Australia there isn't the same anti-gay sentiment here. It's all pointed at "boat-people" at present. And don't get me started on why I hate to see poor helpless refugees as the current political scape-goat.
 

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"Oh for fucks sake humanity, get your shit together. God will be here knocking on the door any minute, and you haven't even got your damn humanitarian issues ready yet! I warned you a few thousand years ago that God will come back!"
 

Yureina

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Urgh...

It's stuff like this that makes me wish that murder was legal. People who are that horrible to their fellows deserve to get whacked.
 

Hamish Durie

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This thread and by extension the article made me think on something.

Religious fanatics have killed alot of people. 9.11 muslim fanatics (the one most people know about) and the holy war which was christian Europe attacking the muslim middle east.
who has killed more middle eastern fanatics or fanatics hailing from the western world?

regardless of the question There are religious fanatics today and this article is proof of that