This makes me fear our future.

[roostuf]

This is pathetic, and wrong, how could people live with selves when they know they caused all of this.

 

[Berithil]

My personal reasons for disagreeing with it are that its just seems... unnatural. It's a man and a woman for a reason (man + woman = children). The whole natural point of sex is for reproducing. Homosexuality kinda defeats that. In my opinion, two men or two women isn't the natural way.

That's a bit of a silly thing to say, since it implies that nature has a point or a reason, and that there is such a thing as "unnatural". Implications that are very much debatable.

Would you consider a fish trying to leave water and walk on their stubby fins natural? Isn't a fish "supposed" to be in the water? Well guess what, it's thanks to that crazy fish that you and me exist.

There is no such thing as "unnatural". To quote George Carlin on a different issue, it's a "meaningless, fucking term". Nature doesn't care what you do with it. Otherwise, wearing clothes, practising agriculture or driving a car would just be as unnatural.

I agree with the rather obvious conclusion that homosexual sex doesn't help with producing offspring. But how is that an argument? Most sex practised today in the western world doesn't help with producing offspring, that doesn't mean that there is a problem with it. Homosexual couples are very much capable and willing of raising children (which is arguably much more of an issue nowadays than merely producing them is), if society would just let them.

You're obviously not required to participate in homosexual.. activities, but implying that homosexuals are doing something wrong is, without trying to be inciting, pretty ignorant.

TL;DR: You do use condoms, don't you? So what was your argument again?

Hmmm, well, I guess this is where me being a Christian comes into the conversion. From an atheistic point of view, your argument makes sense, but for me.... Well, lets just agree to disagree on that. And no, I dont use condoms because I'm eighteen and don't have premaritial sex (and i dont have a girlfriend).

I swear, I'm not trying to sound "holier than thou".

 

[Meight08]

You know living in holland where gay's are almost as accepted as hetero's
This just hits me even harder.

I live in a village where a protest against a carnival on sunday happened a few day's ago.
and no public schools are made because of christian protests.
But Hell if a gay gets beat up its news.
"Homosexual beaten up in train" It says on the morning paper.
The last murder of a gay in my region was...................
Around 20 years ago?

How can a backwater christian village in holland be backward AND pro gay but in america that's as common as dry water?
How?
How?
HOW?

 

[Meight08]

snip

I swear, I'm not trying to sound "holier than thou".

You aren't As long as you tolerate gay's in.
"I don't like it But i don't hate it"

But if you start holding
"god hates fags" Sign
you can go to hell and burn Forever For all eternity for all i care..

 

[Henkie36]

The fact still ermains: someone has to fire a teacher for trying to stop someone getting bullied. That someone is the one to blame, because he or she is the one spreading the fear.

I was thinking that we were on the dawn of the New Age. I was wrong. It's only dusk the night before.

 

[ablac]

Its a shame not only that people hold such backwards views but that they have the power to enforce their crap on everyone else. Mind you the whole community was complicit.

 

[ablac]

Ah, natural selection at work I see, culling the weak and incapable of reproduction so the human race may live on.

Nothing to see here, carry on.

Excuse me. What the hell are you trying to insinuate? I do hope i misinterpret your words and if not that, that you are trolling. It seems you are saying that their suicides were right and that this is some sort of evolution. Your sick.

 

[Meight08]

Ah, natural selection at work I see, culling the weak and incapable of reproduction so the human race may live on.

Nothing to see here, carry on.

Fuck you and your backward views Fuck of right back to godhatesfags.com
Homosexuality happens with many animals and species.
You are sick!

 

[Zorg Machine]

I couldn't get through the entire article. Most of the time I believe that we should work for a better tomorrow. Most of the time I think that the stupidity and backwards thinking will fade by itself when exposed to direct intellect. And every now and then (once every two blue moons if you're feeling poetic) I just want to gather a very large amount of people and burn them.

There is no excuse. From the politicians who made this happen, the extremist churches allowing for mobs of dangerously stupid people to get organized to the counsellors and principals who did what they were supposed to do instead of what was right. I am usually timid and law-abiding but if a human being is put in a situation like this it is your duty to damn the rules and let history paint you however it wishes.

Children died because stupid bigots forced everyone else to ignore the problems in society.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

I don't know how those people sleep at night.

 

[Muspelheim]

Ah, natural selection at work I see, culling the weak and incapable of reproduction so the human race may live on.

Nothing to see here, carry on.

I'd advice against that you use Right of the Strong-rethoric. You are far too weak for that.

The fact still ermains: someone has to fire a teacher for trying to stop someone getting bullied. That someone is the one to blame, because he or she is the one spreading the fear.

I was thinking that we were on the dawn of the New Age. I was wrong. It's only dusk the night before.

Indeed. The teachers should never have to be put in a position where they have to choose between their jobs and intervening in the killings.
But since they are, I would have expected them to choose the latter. People are dying for absolutly ridiculous reasons. Surely, they must have some modicum of integrity?

 

[BrotherSurplice]

I . . . but . . . wha?

I share the OP's opinion. I was fuming as I read that. Its just disgusting. Another reason that I'm glad I left that cult that calls itself the Christian faith. I'm not a violent person, but if I were to meet one of these "evangelicals" that use the loss of a teenage life to try to justify their horribly hypocritical "teachings", I would find it very hard to stop myself from throttling them.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

That was seriously sad to read, I was trying not to cry. I don't mind religion at all but it's people like this who make me sick.

This song is very relevant:

 

[Aprilgold]

I think I lost a few brain cells after reading this:

"They argued that any form of gay tolerance in school is actually an insidious means of promoting homosexuality ? that openly discussing the matter would encourage kids to try it, turning straight kids gay."

I agree.

Good god. I'm Christian, and I still want to tell those people to go eat a dick.

You and I have every right to tell other Christians who soil the very good name we are that they can go eat a dick. Or even call them inhuman fuck douches. I'm catholic and I think people in my religion who do this are assho- No. BEYOND Assholes.

I'm always confused by people who acknowledge the horrific flaws/corruption in the Catholic church, and yet still support the institution anyways. You'd think they'd just, you know, leave. I don't even know any Catholics in real life now because everyone who I knew that was one found a better form of Christianity to follow.

OT: This is incredibly sad. First and foremost all respect/prayers/condolences need to be given to the children affected... and at the same time, we must acknowledge that there are those who would gladly return us to the Dark Ages if given the chance.

Civil rights is a constant struggle. Something tells me that will never change.

But I agree with this more. Your talking about the church that grosses large amounts of money that is basically a brand. Making thousands to build brand new solid gold prayer areas. Theres praying, and practicing faith, then theres taking control of peoples faith to gain a profit, which the Catholic church does.

Few things I read ever make me want to double over and start crying. This very much pushed that. School did the best of two evils, either defend the gay kids, and run the gauntlet of being the medias 5:00 clock news story. Or have the kids be punished into suicide, while still keeping jobs open and staying good in the media. Both are wicked for someone, just depends on whether you think the school should have taken a hit or if there was no other option.

I genuinely cannot describe the sheer rage I feel when I see shit like this. Everyone involved in the bullying, including the teachers, need to get a comprehensive and extreme beating as revenge for ruining and killing these children. Let them feel the pain they dispensed.

The teachers are not the enemies here. The enemy here is the extremely ignorant and bigoted background the school is in. I'm sure they didn't want a kid to die as much as the next man, but if the jumped in and helped then the media, church and several parents mom's would say that the school is supporting the "Sinful lifestyle of Gays" and that they should all "Gays burn in hell, repent, be straight" and many more.

Bullies should be dealt with, and whoever introduced the neutrality policy.

 

[Zack1501]

Wow I moved out of that area when I was 7. Starting to look like it was the best thing to do

I moved out about 3-4 years ago. Now that I think back to it, the kids there were little monsters. 1 out of every 3 people I met there were asses.
I kind of understand why the suicide rate was so high. You got insulted for just about everything. I think I'm just a little worse off for living there.

 

[Terminate421]

I think I lost a few brain cells after reading this:

"They argued that any form of gay tolerance in school is actually an insidious means of promoting homosexuality ? that openly discussing the matter would encourage kids to try it, turning straight kids gay."

I agree.

Good god. I'm Christian, and I still want to tell those people to go eat a dick.

You and I have every right to tell other Christians who soil the very good name we are that they can go eat a dick. Or even call them inhuman fuck douches. I'm catholic and I think people in my religion who do this are assho- No. BEYOND Assholes.

I'm always confused by people who acknowledge the horrific flaws/corruption in the Catholic church, and yet still support the institution anyways. You'd think they'd just, you know, leave. I don't even know any Catholics in real life now because everyone who I knew that was one found a better form of Christianity to follow.

OT: This is incredibly sad. First and foremost all respect/prayers/condolences need to be given to the children affected... and at the same time, we must acknowledge that there are those who would gladly return us to the Dark Ages if given the chance.

Civil rights is a constant struggle. Something tells me that will never change.

But I agree with this more. Your talking about the church that grosses large amounts of money that is basically a brand. Making thousands to build brand new solid gold prayer areas. Theres praying, and practicing faith, then theres taking control of peoples faith to gain a profit, which the Catholic church does.

Few things I read ever make me want to double over and start crying. This very much pushed that. School did the best of two evils, either defend the gay kids, and run the gauntlet of being the medias 5:00 clock news story. Or have the kids be punished into suicide, while still keeping jobs open and staying good in the media. Both are wicked for someone, just depends on whether you think the school should have taken a hit or if there was no other option.

I genuinely cannot describe the sheer rage I feel when I see shit like this. Everyone involved in the bullying, including the teachers, need to get a comprehensive and extreme beating as revenge for ruining and killing these children. Let them feel the pain they dispensed.

The teachers are not the enemies here. The enemy here is the extremely ignorant and bigoted background the school is in. I'm sure they didn't want a kid to die as much as the next man, but if the jumped in and helped then the media, church and several parents mom's would say that the school is supporting the "Sinful lifestyle of Gays" and that they should all "Gays burn in hell, repent, be straight" and many more.

Bullies should be dealt with, and whoever introduced the neutrality policy.

I am not one to fight back on stuff like this at all but when Christianity builds something it isn't as a brand. They are built as a service, the people being paid usually need it because their religious services require them to take time out of their lives and do something.

It may sound on paper like its stupid to pay a guy who tells you things (you don't have to pay him) about sin and how certain actions contribute to a sentence in hell. But even he knows god forgives people for anything. Even if they do not repent. The way I see it, god is the most calm person about things, kinda like Jeff Lebowski in "The Big Lebowski". He just does stuff, he doesn't stop people or hurt them, he just lets things go. Unless they blatantly harm him of course. Trust me when I say it never hurts anyone to believe in something.


Christians are not bad people. It's just there are morons who make us look bad. Like these fucking people who had an underground war against gay people.

 

[Torrasque]

I'm speechless... I mean... Just wow.
There were several parts of that that almost made me cry, which is really saying something.
I am completely stumped at how the teachers could let any of this happen, how the board could let this happen. Did anyone stop and think about what the fuck they were doing? Heaven forbid you lose your job over helping a kid keep their life.

There's a quote from Transmetropolitan that while not relevant to the particular issues, sums up my routine disappoint with modern society.

The Twentieth century gave the human race it's score card. Kardashev and Dyson made concrete the notion of type one, type two and type three civilizations.

A type one civilization has mastered its planet, inside out, is utilizing the world's entire energy potential and has wiped away all the internal struggles of its race.

A type two civilization has energy needs so massive that it can only be met by physically harnessing the sun.

In the type three scenario, the civilization has gone galactic, extracting energy on an interstellar basis.

We can make magic with engines smaller than a virus, and yet, just today, twenty-four people in this city alone will die from having walked into the wrong district or community. We are still not even a type one civilization. This remains a zero society.

To have come so far, but still have people die over something like sexuality makes me sad.

I just shake my head in disappointment at how much our species sucks.

 

[Torrasque]

THAT IS IT!

Going to get a book on stone working and going to start buying tools. Moving to Canada to become a hermit. Cannot take this country anymore. This makes me too sad to even be angry. I think i broke something in my head so i will go lay down for a bit.

Lol, you can just move to any of our cities and hang out wherever you want dude.
Hell, I'll even buy you your first real Canadian beer as a "welcome to Canada!" gesture

 

[stinkyrobot]

I almost wish that one of those kids had gone on a school shooting instead of comitting suicide..... Almost

 

[Torrasque]

THAT IS IT!

Going to get a book on stone working and going to start buying tools. Moving to Canada to become a hermit. Cannot take this country anymore. This makes me too sad to even be angry. I think i broke something in my head so i will go lay down for a bit.

Lol, you can just move to any of our cities and hang out wherever you want dude.
Hell, I'll even buy you your first real Canadian beer as a "welcome to Canada!" gesture

So i can move there and just chill no one will bother me. I just might take that offer.

Wellll... If you do your hermit thing, some people may look at you funny, but provided you just act normal (or pretend to be normal like Clark Kent) then we won't attack your street with people carrying signs saying how bad it is to like cherries instead of strawberries.
There may be the occasional crazy in city centers, but even then they are mostly something to be laughed at by all.

Oh. And stay the fuck away from Toronto.