This scare the shit out of anyone else?

[ShakyFiend]

So, Osama, Ok death of a international hate figure aside etc etc if anyone deserved it he did and so on, thats not what worries me. (although isnt it a bit odd how the US can stroll into a country and execute who they like?)

The troubling thing is this

and

Spoiler: this

and to be honest, this [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/editors_note/8844-Editors-Note-Better-Than-Before] as well which is what prompted this thread.

And this is happening all over the US, people are actively celebrating killing a guy? Does that not seem a bit medieval to anyone else? When people turn out in their thousands to celebrate something like this it justs worries me like hell.

Anyone else? Or are you all patriotic Americans and whatnot?

 

[jhlip]

I heard that he hid behind one of his wives as he was shot. It's hard not to hate such a man, a coward who would ask others to commit suicide for his cause. Is it right to celebrate his death? No. But neither were the bastard's actions in life. This man got what was coming to him, and the celebrating afterward is more humiliation of a man that deserves it, whether it was right of us to dish it out or not.

Medieval? Yes, a bit. But it appears we haven't evolved our base instincts much over time, especially the one that controls our thirst for vengeance. I can't say I blame the Americans that did this, and frankly that's one less evil bastard in the world to deal with.

And that is where the thread should end before this turns into an America debate again.

 

[MercurySteam]

Obama himself said to himself "We got him" once the deed had been done and I think Americans have wanted payback for a long time now. Seems like a victory in my books though maybe not worth going crazy over it. Plus killing Bin Laden won't bring all those people back, but it's a start.

 

[Gottesstrafe]

I heard that he hid behind one of his wives as he was shot. It's hard not to hate such a man, a coward who would ask others to commit suicide for his cause. Is it right to celebrate his death? No. But neither were the bastard's actions in life. This man got what was coming to him, and the celebrating afterward is more humiliation of a man that deserves it, whether it was right of us to dish it out or not.

Medieval? Yes, a bit. But it appears we haven't evolved our base instincts much over time, especially the one that controls our thirst for vengeance. I can't say I blame the Americans that did this, and frankly that's one less evil bastard in the world to deal with.

And that is where the thread should end before this turns into an America debate again.

Agreed. Also, how is this different from the dozens of other threads saying the same exact thing?

Also:

Obama himself said to himself "We got him" once the deed had been done and I think Americans have wanted payback for a long time now.

 

[Bags159]

I'm not celebrating myself as I really had no personal ties to the 9/11 attack, but I can see why some people are celebrating.

I think it's perfectly fine to celebrate the death of someone who represents so much evil.

 

[ryai458]

Your spoiled picture doesn't work so I don't know what you are trying to say.

 

[archvile93]

No worse than what every country does when their country wins a sport event. At least killing the guy mattered, even if only slightly.

 

[exp. 99]

It's about the same as people celebrating when Hitler was found dead, the same as when any bad man gets whacked and people cheer for it. When bad people do bad things, people start rooting for anybody who'll put two in the back of their head.

If you were gonna be scared about it, you should have been scared when America was set into a frenzy of bloodlust right after 9/11, when everyone and their dog was yelling in the streets for someone to murder the man.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

First of all, a disclaimer: I'm American, and I really hate these people celebrating in the streets. All my (American) friends agree that it's kind of sick.

The event of a death should always be met with dignity and respect, no matter who died. Death should never be a cause for celebration.

 

[mkg]

So, Osama, Ok death of a international hate figure aside etc etc if anyone deserved it he did and so on, thats not what worries me. (although isnt it a bit odd how the US can stroll into a country and execute who they like?)

The troubling thing is this

and

Spoiler: this

and to be honest, this [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/editors_note/8844-Editors-Note-Better-Than-Before] as well which is what prompted this thread.

And this is happening all over the US, people are actively celebrating killing a guy? Does that not seem a bit medieval to anyone else? When people turn out in their thousands to celebrate something like this it justs worries me like hell.

Anyone else? Or are you all patriotic Americans and whatnot?

I'm actually in the military and I was sitting thinking about this same thing when I heard the news yesterday morning. While it's good that justice has been served, and I understand the decisions not to take him alive or bury him in a marked grave, I still can't fathom that people would celebrate a man's death. Especially when we've sacrificed so many of our own in the process, not to mention the countless civilian and friendly foreign military casualties. It seems like a very pyrrhic victory, in my opinion. But what we have to understand was that this was a very powerful symbol in this on going war we've been waging. No one cares when you take out equally threatening but unknown targets. This was almost a confirmation to some if we are really on the right track. My greatest fear is now that they've reaffirmed people's faith in this ongoing conflict if we will replace UBL with some other sufficiently scary figure head and the islamic world's retaliation against our attack.

 

[MaxwellEdison]

This is how humanity reacts when horrible things go away.

 

[Ashcrexl]

best served cold.

and best enjoyed cold.

 

[ScoopMeister]

I heard that he hid behind one of his wives as he was shot. It's hard not to hate such a man, a coward who would ask others to commit suicide for his cause. Is it right to celebrate his death? No. But neither were the bastard's actions in life. This man got what was coming to him, and the celebrating afterward is more humiliation of a man that deserves it, whether it was right of us to dish it out or not.

Medieval? Yes, a bit. But it appears we haven't evolved our base instincts much over time, especially the one that controls our thirst for vengeance. I can't say I blame the Americans that did this, and frankly that's one less evil bastard in the world to deal with.

Seriously? You 'heard'? Mate, try not to believe in everything you hear. For all his shortcomings, Bin Laden was a polite, quietly-spoken man. He wasn't the 'evil bastard' or the coward that you perceive him to be. He was just a man who believed in a cause. While I don't condone his kind of extremism (no one should), you reaction is more than a little over the top.
And for the record, the Americans are being overly patriotic and just a little bit silly if they are celebrating a man's death. Not only is this fairly disgusting in principle, but they are jubilant when this 'war on terror' is nowhere near from over. It will never be won, it can't be. And I think you should all save your relief for after any seriously repercussions that could quite possibly occur following Osama Bin Laden's death.

 

[manythings]

I wasnt one to run out and join the party in the streets. I was working, but I dont blame them at all. The scar that the 911 attacks left on the American psyche made these celebrations pretty much unavoidable. Apart from that, the celebrations were non violent, just a gatherings of peopel reveling in a big win. I've seen worse at "football" (soccer) games. People are just being hypersensitve to it.

As far as Pakistans sovereignty is concerned, I can understand why they would feel slighted by our kicking in the door and taking bin ladin without asking for permission. That said, the truth of the matter is despite the billions of dollars of our aid money they have happily accepted there was doubt that pakistan wouldnt tip our hand and warn osama that it was coming. I mean lets be real about it, the guy was in thier back yard in a HUGE complex built specifically for him, I just cant find it credible that nobody knew he was there. Seeing as how the stance of America has been we are going to get this guy, whatever it takes, stand with us or against us, any doubt basically ruled out America not asserting its OWN sovereignty and killing the man who so richly deserved our retribution.

They had nothing to gain from supporting him... they're kind of fighting a war against the incursion of "Al Qaeda". The group that has been taking control of large areas of their country. It's kind of a big deal.

Also he's dead but the next "threat" to America will appear promptly, just in time to deflect attention from the next scandal.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Why should it scare people? The US is a country based on revenge. This wasnt about a war on terror. This was about getting the guy, and we did.

Besides, its just a bunch of drunks chanting USA USA USA!

I'll tell you what scares me. When the Canadians bad mouth America while they're in America. I'm scared for the guys, they may not make it back over the border.

EDIT:
Besides, America did honour him. They gave him a good muslim burial at sea and followed in its accordances. We paraded Saddam around for days, so already he's getting ebtter treatment then that.

 

[Baradiel]

I'm sortof indifferent towards it. I saw it on the news and I was like "Oh... Ok. That's... good?" then I saw all the celebrations in America, and I was instantly back to neutral about it.

Yes, celebrating "a victory" is pretty standard behaviour for humanity. Russia celebrates the end of the Second World War etc. What irritates me is that it only seems to be America that is having street parades over it. Al-Qaeda killed ALOT more Arabs and Muslims (the two are not the same) than Americans. Saudi Arabia has been ravaged by attacks, for example. Yet it is only America, that gun toting world police officer, that is celebrating (in a frankly barbaric fashion).

Whether Bin Laden deserved to die or not is irrelevant. He's dead now. It isn't going to bring anyone back.

I'm... seriously confused about what I think about this. Honestly, I'm not sure what I think about any of this, and I'm now rambling.

 

[Brandon237]

The dead deserve dignity and respect, no matter who they were. Death never a victory.

I'm afraid that I must disagree on this one. Hitler deserves NO respect, Bin Laden deserves no respect. They chose to throw away their rights, their dignity when they committed the atrocities that they did. If their graves are pillaged and their corpses eaten by rats, they had it coming.

I'm not American, but I can understand the excitement that many people feel. While yes it is rather... barbaric to cheer for the murder of a person, this person was so evil that it was Justified, not the right thing to do, but still justified.

Being dead shouldn't give you an automatic respect ticket, you have to earn that in life, or at least not do anything atrocious enough that people would ever want to insult you after death. Bin Laden certainly did not manage either of these, he deserves the reaction his death has gotten.