This scare the shit out of anyone else?

[Phoenixlight]

I am done with you kid. I can't even read the stupidity of your posts without blowing a vessel out of anger.

My posts aren't stupid, I've backed up everything with proof whereas you've just being lying and being generally stupid whilst trying to label me with your own defects. Also, please blow more vessels

 

[thelonewolf266]

i dont think that we are celebrating his death, i think we are more ecited by what his death means. for a decade this man has been an iconic face for the middle eastern community and a symbol of hatred toward america. but with his death he is symbolicly being removed from such positions AND this is the only real event in the entirity of the decade where a nation as a whole can step up and say yes we are triumphing over those who have wronged us.

He is not the face of the middle eastern community.The attack on 9/11 wasn't orchestrated by all the countries of the middle east it was planned and carried out by an extremist terrorist group that hides behind religion to justify what they do just like the crusades used Christianity to justify the slaughter of thousands of innocent people.

 

[thelonewolf266]

I heard that he hid behind one of his wives as he was shot. It's hard not to hate such a man, a coward who would ask others to commit suicide for his cause. Is it right to celebrate his death? No. But neither were the bastard's actions in life. This man got what was coming to him, and the celebrating afterward is more humiliation of a man that deserves it, whether it was right of us to dish it out or not.

Medieval? Yes, a bit. But it appears we haven't evolved our base instincts much over time, especially the one that controls our thirst for vengeance. I can't say I blame the Americans that did this, and frankly that's one less evil bastard in the world to deal with.

Seriously? You 'heard'? Mate, try not to believe in everything you hear. For all his shortcomings, Bin Laden was a polite, quietly-spoken man. He wasn't the 'evil bastard' or the coward that you perceive him to be. He was just a man who believed in a cause. While I don't condone his kind of extremism (no one should), you reaction is more than a little over the top.
And for the record, the Americans are being overly patriotic and just a little bit silly if they are celebrating a man's death. Not only is this fairly disgusting in principle, but they are jubilant when this 'war on terror' is nowhere near from over. It will never be won, it can't be. And I think you should all save your relief for after any seriously repercussions that could quite possibly occur following Osama Bin Laden's death.

Even if he was polite and quietly-spoken he spent 21 years of his life planning and carrying out violent acts for the purpose of spreading fear which resulted in the deaths of thousands of people and led to a war. I'm sorry, but that's about as close as anybody has gotten in a long while to being the human personification of an ogre, even if he was a polite ogre.

I'm not entirely agreeing with the other guy but all the innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan that haven't been killed due to the american invasion of their countries are now living in fear so yeah while I think celebrating a mans murder no matter who he was is wrong I do understand their feelings. That said like I pointed out early saying he is the epitome of evil means you are saying america is to seeing as it has done far worse in its history.

 

[Do4600]

I heard that he hid behind one of his wives as he was shot. It's hard not to hate such a man, a coward who would ask others to commit suicide for his cause. Is it right to celebrate his death? No. But neither were the bastard's actions in life. This man got what was coming to him, and the celebrating afterward is more humiliation of a man that deserves it, whether it was right of us to dish it out or not.

Medieval? Yes, a bit. But it appears we haven't evolved our base instincts much over time, especially the one that controls our thirst for vengeance. I can't say I blame the Americans that did this, and frankly that's one less evil bastard in the world to deal with.

Seriously? You 'heard'? Mate, try not to believe in everything you hear. For all his shortcomings, Bin Laden was a polite, quietly-spoken man. He wasn't the 'evil bastard' or the coward that you perceive him to be. He was just a man who believed in a cause. While I don't condone his kind of extremism (no one should), you reaction is more than a little over the top.
And for the record, the Americans are being overly patriotic and just a little bit silly if they are celebrating a man's death. Not only is this fairly disgusting in principle, but they are jubilant when this 'war on terror' is nowhere near from over. It will never be won, it can't be. And I think you should all save your relief for after any seriously repercussions that could quite possibly occur following Osama Bin Laden's death.

Even if he was polite and quietly-spoken he spent 21 years of his life planning and carrying out violent acts for the purpose of spreading fear which resulted in the deaths of thousands of people and led to a war. I'm sorry, but that's about as close as anybody has gotten in a long while to being the human personification of an ogre, even if he was a polite ogre.

I'm not entirely agreeing with the other guy but all the innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan that haven't been killed due to the american invasion of their countries are now living in fear so yeah while I think celebrating a mans murder no matter who he was is wrong I do understand their feelings. That said like I pointed out early saying he is the epitome of evil means you are saying america is to seeing as it has done far worse in its history.

I never said he was the epitome of evil, I said he was an ogre of a human being. His only goal for the past 20 years has been to cause suffering.

One could make the case that if Osama Bin Laden wasn't a terrorist, American troops wouldn't be in the middle east making people live in fear.

Think about this, if you're a terrorist and organize an attack with intent of committing mass murder, what will the consequences be? How will the country react?

How many options does a government have when it's attacked by a terrorist organization? I think it has very few, especially in a political environment like this one. If you do nothing, other superpowers will know that they can "push you around" without retaliation, you must take some action, and in this case I think Osama Bin Laden knew that the action we would take would involve some kind of military solution in the middle-east. I think what he wanted to do was to turn the middle eastern opinion against the Western world so they would not be influenced by western ideals. I think the way he planned to do this was to provoke the U.S. to take military action in the Middle East.

I think he just overestimated how many people would join him against the U.S., I think he was counting on more of the Islamic population to join him in Jihad when the U.S. took action.

I think the exact kinds of things Osama Bin Laden was trying to prevent is the kind of "pro-western ideological" revolutions we are seeing in Northern Africa and the Middle East right this very minute. He realized in the eighty's the influence the western world was having on the whole of the Islamic Middle East. So how do you prove to a region that western ideals are damaging when all preaching has failed? By provoking the figurehead of western civilization to attack the region and with any luck the whole region will band together against a common enemy and repel it and it's ideals.

That's my theory, he was afraid that his traditional theocratic society would soon adopt the "meretricious" views of the western world and the only way he thought he could stop it was with extreme violence, I'd call that cowardice.

 

[rmb1983]

I never said he was the epitome of evil, I said he was an ogre of a human being. His only goal for the past 20 years has been to cause suffering.

One could make the case that if Osama Bin Laden wasn't a terrorist, American troops wouldn't be in the middle east making people live in fear.

Think about this, if you're a terrorist and organize an attack with intent of committing mass murder, what will the consequences be? How will the country react?

How many options does a government have when it's attacked by a terrorist organization? I think it has very few, especially in a political environment like this one. If you do nothing, other superpowers will know that they can "push you around" without retaliation, you must take some action, and in this case I think Osama Bin Laden knew that the action we would take would involve some kind of military solution in the middle-east. I think what he wanted to do was to turn the middle eastern opinion against the Western world so they would not be influenced by western ideals. I think the way he planned to do this was to provoke the U.S. to take military action in the Middle East.

I think he just overestimated how many people would join him against the U.S., I think he was counting on more of the Islamic population to join him in Jihad when the U.S. took action.

I think the exact kinds of things Osama Bin Laden was trying to prevent is the kind of "pro-western ideological" revolutions we are seeing in Northern Africa and the Middle East right this very minute. He realized in the eighty's the influence the western world was having on the whole of the Islamic Middle East. So how do you prove to a region that western ideals are damaging when all preaching has failed? By provoking the figurehead of western civilization to attack the region and with any luck the whole region will band together against a common enemy and repel it and it's ideals.

That's my theory, he was afraid that his traditional theocratic society would soon adopt the "meretricious" views of the western world and the only way he thought he could stop it was with extreme violence, I'd call that cowardice.

Agree or disagree, this is probably one of the most fleshed-out theories I've ever read.

 

[Vandy]

Very sorry we're not getting our flashy show trial, but I'm not losing sleep over the man's death. Can we please get on with the rest of our lives AND STOP BEING XENOPHOBES?!

 

[TimtheBigDaddy]

Cheers to that bro! I totally agree with you.

 

[TimtheBigDaddy]

Thanks for the honesty and the warning.