This scare the shit out of anyone else?

ZeZZZZevy

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I'll be happy once the organization is taken down.
Killing a single man does not win you anything. We didn't win WW2 when Hitler killed himself, and this is no different. Nothing has changed, and there's still a high possibility that someone equally as horrible will take his place.
So we shouldn't be celebrating at all, we just made him a martyr for his cause.

Gottesstrafe said:
I totally thought of that clip too. Haha.
 

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This isn't over yet. This is their version of 911, or a parallel universe where they got our president. Ultimately, I am fairly sure we pissed them off with this move, and although most people feel safer right now, the cold hard facts is that something like this is likely to trigger what ever plot they had been cooking up for all these years.

Also, on a side note however, this must be the greatest frag ever? I mean, who got the killshot on Hitler? No one :( But here we have one navy seal that put a bullet in Osama's eye, you know that a meme is going to be created over this.
 

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It made me think "why party and piss off the already pissed off?", scenes like this to his supporters are probably as "radicalising" as the scenes of people celebrating when the towers were being attacked.
 

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yeah im pretty disappointed by this too. America could of used this to set an example to the world that they are above this kind of action, this makes me think that America is no different to the extremists.

i think most extremists celebrated this way when they killed Americans.
Americans celebrate this way when they killed extremists....

Kinda makes me think were not that different after all...
 

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I'm American, and while I'm glad he's finally dead, I'm not one for celebrating his death. I could understand people celebrating in the streets for something like, the ending of a war or something, but the death of one guy not so much.
 

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Because the United States is the only country to ever celebrate the death of a person, right?
 

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Hitlers death marked the end of war and holocaust. This is just petty revenge. [del]Blood for the Blood God! Obama! Obama! Obama![/del]

I just love how people justify their own views by calling their opponents evil. Hasnt the japanese otaku culture thought you anything?
...Self-defence, yes. More guts and gore to the parade!
 

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ShakyFiend said:
So, Osama, Ok death of a international hate figure aside etc etc if anyone deserved it he did and so on, thats not what worries me. (although isnt it a bit odd how the US can stroll into a country and execute who they like?)

The troubling thing is this
and
and to be honest, this [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/editors_note/8844-Editors-Note-Better-Than-Before] as well which is what prompted this thread.

And this is happening all over the US, people are actively celebrating killing a guy? Does that not seem a bit medieval to anyone else? When people turn out in their thousands to celebrate something like this it justs worries me like hell.

Anyone else? Or are you all patriotic Americans and whatnot?
Zekksta said:
EllEzDee said:
He was a "towel head", who cares about him? America has its independence back or whatever the fuck it is they're celebrating. Woo, freedom!
Exactly, the fact that this outlandish man has been killed totally justifies the war that ravaged a country to find him, leaving said country economically and physically fucked for decades.

But YEAH, freedom and shit.
Yeah! Because Afghanistan was awesome before the Americans showed up. Oh, wait... I mean before the USSR showed up. I mean... before Britain showed up. I mean... before (I could go on like this all day).
 

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Being from Germany, American patriotism was always something veeery strange for me. I don't get patriotism in general, partly because it not only generalizes an entire county, but also its generations in the past and political decisions (often made by a small elite) and bypassing Sturgeon's Law.

While I don't share their point of view, the thinking pattern behind their actions is probably "We're the heroes that defeated the villain"/"We're the knights that slew the dragon!", even if a black/white view is horribly naive. It's simple, and simple things are easy to join in and enjoy. Bad guys doing bad things because they're bad and nothing but bad and good guys doing good things because they're [...]? Give me a break.

/opinion & speculation
 

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ShakyFiend said:
So, Osama, Ok death of a international hate figure aside etc etc if anyone deserved it he did and so on, thats not what worries me. (although isnt it a bit odd how the US can stroll into a country and execute who they like?)

The troubling thing is this
and
and to be honest, this [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/editors_note/8844-Editors-Note-Better-Than-Before] as well which is what prompted this thread.

And this is happening all over the US, people are actively celebrating killing a guy? Does that not seem a bit medieval to anyone else? When people turn out in their thousands to celebrate something like this it justs worries me like hell.

Anyone else? Or are you all patriotic Americans and whatnot?
Well, the term patriotic was so thoroughly co-opted by the jingos by the end of 2001 that I abandoned the term altogether as something to refer to myself. The celebrations are unnerving to me. But they don't mean anything in and of themselves.

Think about Iraq. Saddam was captured and then hanged months later by his own people. It would be a better analogy if he'd simply been shot to death during the initial invasion, but I think the reaction of the Iraqi people would have been the same. The celebrations, the tearing down of all those narcissistic statues, the removal of the tyrant's face from their currency. Iraqis were celebrating on the streets, and I don't know but I suspect they were doing the same the day he was hanged. The removal from this Earth of a monster who has brutally, mercilessly slaughtered thousands of your own, of innocents, is cause for positive feelings. Celebration may be a bit much, but it also shouldn't surprise, and I don't think it should frighten you.

I know what you're thinking. I would also be (NSA aren't listening, are they?) very content if several key members of the Bush administration were tried for treason, even if they were sentenced the traditional way and hanged. And I do consider many of them to be war criminals. But this is something that could be, has been, debated. Not so with bin Ladin. He proudly declared what he did, and he didn't simply look the other way when his quest for power collected collateral innocent lives, he specifically targeted those lives to scare the shit out of us and persuade us to abandon our ideals out of fear.
 

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Yeah, all these celebrations make me upset aswell. I would celebrate an end of a war, but not the killing of a man no matter how evil. These celebrations makes me see most of America as hypocrites, full of wanna-be faithful, but once again evil as the man they've killed. Also lol at the hand with peace symbol there, that's just pathetic...
 

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Is it me or does it seem like America can't enjoy anything without people and other countries waggling their finger in disgust?
 

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Phoenix09215 said:
Honestly, I'm happy that America have got what they consider justice for 911. If my loved ones had died in a situation like this then I can't deny that I'd want nothing more than to see the person responsible dead. However, in no situation can I honestly understand celebrating murder. Yes, he may of deserved to die for his actions but can't America take the higher ground on this!? Sure they have justice for the most shocking tragedy in their history but in my eyes murder is murder and to celebrate it is barbaric. Also, its not like the war on terrorism is over...
A policy or culture of celebrating murder is barbaric, but this is no simple murder. It's the strategic killing of a specific terrorist. Taking our celebration of this as barbarism is a misinterpretation at best.
 

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wooty said:
It made me think "why party and piss off the already pissed off?", scenes like this to his supporters are probably as "radicalising" as the scenes of people celebrating when the towers were being attacked.
Ah, yes. The "terrorists are terrorists because of something the people they terrorize did" argument.

Very nice.

Also, the "cheering for one man who was guilty of mass murder is the same thing as cheering the deaths of thousands of innocent people, including children" assertion.

Excellent.

Well, I didn't take to the streets to celebrate, and I'll agree that doing so is a little bit tacky, but I was certainly happy to see that man gone. No noble purpose was served by him continuing to breath good people's oxygen.