This scare the shit out of anyone else?

wammnebu

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i think you are overreacting just a little bit here,

these 'celebrations' were pretty small in comparison to most events. in fact Im pretty sure there was more emotional reaction to the Red Sox World Series in 2004, than there was for the us winning its first Gorilla war.

Most people still just went to work or play or school or what have you, giving the discussion as much interest as the Kate and William wedding a few days back

I know how eager the world is to pin us down as the new global fascist oppressors, but seriously this is pretty tame compared to most victory celebrations.
 

zehydra

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I saw this quote on CNN.com, and I think it speaks for many of us Americans.

"We're not happy because he was killed. We're happy because the face of terrorism/evil no longer walks free."
 

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I'm reminded of Red vs Blue. After 100+ episodes, most of them taking place in Blood Gulch, Lopez kills the last Blue there. The response is something like this: "Hey we won blood gulch." "Oh cool."

That's how I feel about this. After all this time Osama is dead, and I couldn't care less. If anybody was serious about finding him we would have tracked him down within the first month. I don't need a million people telling me he's dead. 9/11 has long been milked for all the blind patriotism and emotion they can get out of me. I say fuck fear, fuck political games, fuck terrorists, and fuck paranoia.

And no more of this half-assing everything in the middle east. We needed to shit or get off the pot, but we chose to stay there. Had we left, or made a commitment, things would have turned out better. Morally, we would have dominated if people in the middle east knew that we were commited.

Please, no more invading countries because we don't agree with their morals. I don't like innocent people being hurt, but it's not America's place to right wrong. So if a country doesn't agree with our government, does that give them the right to attack us? That's our logic. Coming from an American I can't stand our foreign policy, and that's for Obama just as much as Bush.

Celebrate the death of a religious extremist who was exploited to send an entire country into fear by the government of said country? I just want to celebrate another day of living. Props to the fighting men and women overseas.
 

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And this is happening all over the US, people are actively celebrating killing a guy? Does that not seem a bit medieval to anyone else? When people turn out in their thousands to celebrate something like this it justs worries me like hell.

Anyone else? Or are you all patriotic Americans and whatnot?
Remember the Salem witch trials way back in the day? You get a bunch of people blindly following a belief out of fear and they do anything you want. Bin Laden was a bad dude, 9/11 mastermind or not, but celebrating his death shows that humanity has not changed the least in thousands of years, Americans acted the same way during public executions of murderers, blasphemers, witches, traitors and so on. You get them to believe what you want through fear ie, Bin Laden is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent Americans, and they'll do whatever you want, and still think they're doing it out of their own free will. We all are blind sheep being herded by shepards.

off topic...I still don't understand why we occupied Iraq in 2003....
 

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Merh I for one did not celebrate (or did any of my family, extended family, neighbors, hell I don't know anyone who took to the streets), my first reaction was/is to call bullshit. I seriously think that everyone outside of the US is drastically overestimating how many people went and celebrated. Outside of DC and New York ( and if you blame New Yorkers for celebrating then you really need to take a step back and really think of how an event like 9/11 would affect you if you were in the town it happened in) I do not know of any other "parties" that did not occur in bars. And lets face it, bars are just kinda like that.
I am not sad to hear that he is dead. I am not happy... okay I kind of am ( he did talk about killing the infidel which is, ya know, ME) but I am not over joyed or anything. It is just something.
 

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It's hard for us non-Americans to understand this kind of thing very often, but what we have to remember is that a good proportion of American's have a real sense of belonging to their country. An "If you kill one of us, you wound us all" menatlity if you will. I sometimes wish I could feel this sense of belonging to my country, but I just don't.
It is the aforementioned mentality that brings such celebration. One of the world's most hated men, responsible for organising the deaths of many of your people, is shot in the head whilst cowering behind his wife. I can understand, and am not appalled at all by the celebrations. Good riddance to him, and let America have its day.
 

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To be fair, I'm Iraqi and even though Alquadia has done a lot of crap in Iraq I still had this "Oh, nice.." feeling.

I must say I'm disgusted at the Americans for celebrating it. That disgust may come from personal bias as they have ravaged my country far more than Osama and his faction, though.
 

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ScoopMeister said:
And I don't agree that this is the same as celebrating Hitler's death. Not only is there no solid proof that Bin Laden was even responsible for 9/11,
He said he did it, the FBI said they were positive he did it after a thorough investigation. That's good enough for me.
Remember in school when you wrote a paper and took information from a source (book, web page, tv show etc.) you had to cite your sources. And when you didn't it was plagiarism. So unless Bin Laden had some kind of citation regarding him and the planning of 9/11, he is just taking credit for someone else's actions. Aka, screenshot, or it didn't happen.
 

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Father Time said:
zehydra said:
I saw this quote on CNN.com, and I think it speaks for many of us Americans.

"We're not happy because he was killed. We're happy because the face of terrorism/evil no longer walks free."
The fact that he's been killed by us ain't exactly a minus though.
right. I'm just trying to point out that we're less happy about a death, as much as we are just happy that this whole thing - 9/11 - is over.
 

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I don't know if you get the Daily Show over there, or if internet restrictions will let you watch it, but Jon Stewart and crew did a pretty good job summarizing our feelings last night.

Here's the episode [http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/mon-may-2-2011-philip-k--howard].

EDIT: You know what's really scary? Other countries' celebrations after winning a Soccer game.
 

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jebussaves88 said:
It's hard for us non-Americans to understand this kind of thing very often, but what we have to remember is that a good proportion of American's have a real sense of belonging to their country. An "If you kill one of us, you wound us all" menatlity if you will. I sometimes wish I could feel this sense of belonging to my country, but I just don't.
It's all a different culture, Americans are pretty much taught to work together and be a single people, but this only happens in times of tragedy. I remember seeing American flags were only seen in front of businesses, schools, government buildings and the houses of war vets before 9/11. After 9/11 everyone and their mom had the stars and stripes hanging from everything they could find. Its like fads with kids, you see the cool kid wearing Nikes, and then everyone else thinks, Oh if I wear Nikes, I'll be cool! Wearing Nikes does not make you cool, waving a flag in front of your house does not make you patriotic. People think that just throwing a flag in their front yard supports the troops, it doesn't. Volunteering and public service shows your patriotism. Donate to charities that send supplies to troops and their families, help with things like Habitat for Humanity....I'm rambling...X/