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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
First of all, a disclaimer: I'm American, and I really hate these people celebrating in the streets. All my (American) friends agree that it's kind of sick.

The event of a death should always be met with dignity and respect, no matter who died. Death should never be a cause for celebration.
I can see where you're coming from, the premature ending of a life is not normally something to celebrate, but this guy was a massive douche; there were innocent little children on those planes who weren't shown the dignity and respect they deserved by him and so I'm glad that justice has finally been served.
 

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Honestly, I'm happy that America have got what they consider justice for 911. If my loved ones had died in a situation like this then I can't deny that I'd want nothing more than to see the person responsible dead. However, in no situation can I honestly understand celebrating murder. Yes, he may of deserved to die for his actions but can't America take the higher ground on this!? Sure they have justice for the most shocking tragedy in their history but in my eyes murder is murder and to celebrate it is barbaric. Also, its not like the war on terrorism is over...
A policy or culture of celebrating murder is barbaric, but this is no simple murder. It's the strategic killing of a specific terrorist. Taking our celebration of this as barbarism is a misinterpretation at best.
Oh yes strategic killing is totally not murder. Obviously because it was planned. Julius Caesar wasn't murdered, he was "strategically killed." How could I forget that? (sarcasm)
Caeser wasn't a terrorist (though he was kind of an asshole). It's not really fair to only include part of his sentence and ignore the other part. I don't recall Julias being a mass murderer, though Caligula had to go as quickly as possible (also, he fucked his sister. Ew.).
 

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Well as long as we don't go absolutely crazy and start killing the wrong people or doing the wrong things on someone else's turf, there's really nothing to worry about.

...Sometimes, my naivety surprises even me...


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rsvp42 said:
Popido said:
rsvp42 said:
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A policy or culture of celebrating murder is barbaric, but this is no simple murder. It's the strategic killing of a specific terrorist. Taking our celebration of this as barbarism is a misinterpretation at best.
Lets just call it cultural shock.

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Sorry. I had to lol at the bold text.
I'm not sure why...
I kinda pictured you with a monocle, tophat and bloody sledgehammer, giving this speech to me as I accidently find you in a room full of disfigured bodies. :p

Also, you're now british.
 

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I had a party last night for Osama being killed. But I know that there will be more attacks on the us.
 

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I heard that he hid behind one of his wives as he was shot. It's hard not to hate such a man, a coward who would ask others to commit suicide for his cause. Is it right to celebrate his death? No. But neither were the bastard's actions in life. This man got what was coming to him, and the celebrating afterward is more humiliation of a man that deserves it, whether it was right of us to dish it out or not.

Medieval? Yes, a bit. But it appears we haven't evolved our base instincts much over time, especially the one that controls our thirst for vengeance. I can't say I blame the Americans that did this, and frankly that's one less evil bastard in the world to deal with.
Seriously? You 'heard'? Mate, try not to believe in everything you hear. For all his shortcomings, Bin Laden was a polite, quietly-spoken man. He wasn't the 'evil bastard' or the coward that you perceive him to be. He was just a man who believed in a cause. While I don't condone his kind of extremism (no one should), you reaction is more than a little over the top.
Bull. Fucking. Shit. I didn't hear, I read in the New York Times that he used one of his wives as a human shield. He was a murderous bastard. He financed the Taliban, psychopaths who murder innocents if they are "corrupted" by western influences. Al-Qaeda, the organization he was in charge of, is even worse. They send suicide bombers to kill Jews, Shiite Muslims, and anyone from the West, regardless of religion. He was even a bad guy in his personal life. I've read an article by one of his sons that said he was a cruel man, a terrible father.

Saying he was a halfway decent guy is the most wrong thing you could say. How the hell did you get so misinformed?
 

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MercurySteam said:
Obama himself said to himself "We got him" once the deed had been done and I think Americans have wanted payback for a long time now. Seems like a victory in my books though maybe not worth going crazy over it. Plus killing Bin Laden won't bring all those people back, but it's a start.

It's a start? Towards bringing back the dead?
 
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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
First of all, a disclaimer: I'm American, and I really hate these people celebrating in the streets. All my (American) friends agree that it's kind of sick.

The event of a death should always be met with dignity and respect, no matter who died. Death should never be a cause for celebration.
I can see where you're coming from, the premature ending of a life is not normally something to celebrate, but this guy was a massive douche; there were innocent little children on those planes who weren't shown the dignity and respect they deserved by him and so I'm glad that justice has finally been served.
All the more reason to take the high road and SHOW some dignity and respect. Two wrongs don't make a right. If we continue to treat him as we would any other human being, despite everything he did, we assert our moral authority over him and his followers. We make a statement: "We will never sink to his level."
 

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Popido said:
I kinda pictured you with a monocle, tophat and bloody sledgehammer, giving this speech to me as I accidently find you in a room full of disfigured bodies. :p

Also, you're now british.
lol, I approve of this
 

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Who cares he got what it deserved wether it be right or wrong. Besides took them long enough. Also they knew where he was, they were waiting until damn near re-relection do it so Obama will for sure win. My opinion everyone.


Have lovely and Treacherous day! :)

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When the 9/11 attacks happened, his supports celebrated over the death of 3000+ people. We are celebrating for the death of a single man.

Just sayin'.
 

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Wondermint13 said:
Bin Laden from Saudi Arabia got his own guys through american security, stole and flew their own planes and took down two f***ing great big buildings in the middle of a world famous city without anyone knowing before it was too late.
Pretty big feat for his country.

America got the Army to kill one guy....
Yeh you keep on celebrating..
You have a good point, but in all fairness, finding ONE man in the world who happens to be very well funded and well connected is actually quite difficult. Finding two skyscrapers is not very hard. Also flying a plane is not very hard when someone else did the taking off for you. Still an impressive operation, no doubt, just sayin...
 

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Hell, people in Norway went "that fucker got killed! HA!!1" without further thought. They had absolutely no personal ties to the Osama's terrorist actions, other than hearing "he big bad man, make people go boo boo!" or whatever on some stupid news channel like Fox. Ugh.
 

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
All the more reason to take the high road and SHOW some dignity and respect. Two wrongs don't make a right. If we continue to treat him as we would any other human being, despite everything he did, we assert our moral authority over him and his followers. We make a statement: "We will never sink to his level."
Not sure I quite get this idea. We're America, not Batman. We're allowed to kill our enemies, just so long as we don't get stupid about it. This all seems quite contained and reasonable as far as military operations go.

Not to mention that "sinking to his level" would involve secretly plotting and then engaging in the deaths of thousands of civilians in a series of cowardly attacks. He's basically been a military target for 10 years, so this outcome should come as no surprise.
 

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The Long Road said:
You're "scared" because you have a warped idea of the United States. Osama bin Laden was the boogeyman for an entire generation, and now he's dead. Will this affect al-Qaeda's operational ability in the short term? No, he's just a figurehead. But that's why everyone's celebrating: the man they unequivocally associate with terror and death has been eliminated. These people are not ready to storm into Afghanistan and mow down civilians, and they're not going to hijack airliners and fly them into buildings in downtown Riyadh.

A second reason for the celebrations is that the killing of bin Laden shows that there really is no hiding from us. You can last for a while, but we WILL get you. In the face of all the America-hate the rest of the world constantly vomits every time we twitch, I know I saw this as a big "fuck you" to the rest of the world. Mocked for a decade about not being able to find "a frail old man", when it turns out that he was possibly being hid with the assistance of a so-called friendly nation. Then suddenly, 24 Navy SEALs bust down his doors and kill everyone without a single casualty, using US intelligence from US-cultivated leads. Alert Pakistan? Fuck that! He's less than a mile from their military academy! That's just a little bit suspicious!

So bear in mind that we are not celebrating the death of one man. I'm glad that his remains were handled in accordance with his beliefs. I know that the burial at sea is not a preferred method of burial for his beliefs, but it was carried out to the best of our abilities. I'm celebrating the destruction of the symbol that opposes everything I stand ready to defend. The symbol of people willing to kill me because of who I am, not what I've done. They've taken it upon themselves to be judge, jury, and executioner, and as the wrongly accused, I'm glad to see them fall.
Aaand WIN! I was sitting here contemplating how to respond without being an ass hole about it since I find the argument ridiculous in the first place. But you summed it up for me perfectly. And it's not as if there were hundred of thousands, or even thousands. The biggest celebration I saw was at most 50 people. The country didn't spill into the streets. New York, and D.C. were the main places for the celebration because that's where we were attacked.
 

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ShakyFiend said:
And this is happening all over the US, people are actively celebrating killing a guy? Does that not seem a bit medieval to anyone else? When people turn out in their thousands to celebrate something like this it justs worries me like hell.
This is quite normal for us. My fellow classmates erupted in cheers when OJ was declared not guilty. They talked through the national moment of silence for the Oklahoma City bombing victims. They were more interested in who Clinton was fucking than what he was doing as president, good or bad. This kind of thing more or less continued into adulthood.

People describe the hellish culture of Xbox Live as if it is some new phenomenon. It existed here well before the Internet became a Big Thing.

Don't be disturbed by the fact that many of us are insane misguided cavemen. Be disturbed that we are insane misguided cavemen with a permanent seat on the UN Security council and a nuclear arsenal.

Have a nice day!
 

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"The wicked Witch of the West is dead!"

And if you remember how they reacted...
 

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pliusmannn said:
Yeah, all these celebrations make me upset aswell. I would celebrate an end of a war, but not the killing of a man no matter how evil. These celebrations makes me see most of America as hypocrites, full of wanna-be faithful, but once again evil as the man they've killed. Also lol at the hand with peace symbol there, that's just pathetic...
I may not be celebrating the death of Osama with anything more than somberness, but this right here? Don't take a pathetic moral high ground if you don't understand the situation.

Here's a little perspective: It's been a very bitter decade. With war after war and the recession hitting the world hard, there's finally a scrap of good news. As a generation, our maturation has been put on pause fueled by an after-911 setting of paranoia and fear. Most of the people who have been celebrating were barely eight-to-twelve at the time of this 9/11 happening and for most, they've never heard of anything more terrible before in their so-far short lives. It was seared into their memory and had such a profound effect. For those who weren't children at the time, it brought them together and united a country that at times is at constant arguing with itself, one half against another. It brought a sense of unity for them that lasted longer for some rather than others, but it still brought them together, even through grief.

In the wake of all of this bad news that has been compounding and piling on top of us for the past decade, people finally got some good news to celebrate over that wasn't just another "WOO, Superbowl!" They're not celebrating the death of a man; they're celebrating their relief that things might slowly be able to turn back to normal. Whether this is a naive view is up for debate, but that's beside the point.

I'm not celebrating the death of Osama, but after having been given this perspective on the situation I believe calling out "hypocrite" and "pathetic!" is founded in ignorance.
 

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I ultimately think that the death of bin Laden is a good thing for the world as a whole, from a pragmatic point of view.

But to celebrate a death is still extremely distasteful. There is a massive difference between 'justice' and 'revenge', and as twee as it sounds, Confucius is still right today; 'Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves'.

It also amuses me (in a black way) that America still prides itself as a god-fearing 'Christian' nation. What Would Jesus Do? Well, he wouldn't be dancing in the street at the death of an enemy, that's for sure...
 

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I probably stopped caring about this 10min after I heard about it on the radio the other morning. Whoop de do, we killed a guy, now tell me when we stop spending a few trillion dollars a week on that war, then ill be impressed.