This scare the shit out of anyone else?

[rsvp42]

Well because I'm not America, maybe I just don't understand but I stand by my opinion. Maybe barbaric is a bit harsh but I still think celebrating any murder, no matter who it is, is wrong...

Yet death in the name of justice permeates our entertainment. We play games and watch movies where the death of an evil person is not only cause for elation, but the whole payoff of the production. There's definitely a line that shouldn't be crossed, but this Osama thing is nowhere near that.

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A policy or culture of celebrating murder is barbaric, but this is no simple murder. It's the strategic killing of a specific terrorist. Taking our celebration of this as barbarism is a misinterpretation at best.

Lets just call it cultural shock.

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Sorry. I had to lol at the bold text.

I'm not sure why...

 

[Sudenak]

I celebrated for maybe three seconds before the cynic rose up from within and slapped that jubilation down. It doesn't really matter that we killed him, aside from petty vengeance. We still have the war, and the media's been scrambling to say that this changes nothing. ._. I just can't give a damn.

It does disturb me greatly that we react in such a way when we claim to have the moral authority. I know it feels good to kill the bad guy, but wouldn't it have been wiser to imprison him and try to get some info out of him? Or just lock him up until he dies of old age? 'Cause now his little minions will raise him up as a martyr and bless his death.

 

[pliusmannn]

These celebrations makes me see most of America as hypocrites, full of wanna-be faithful, but once again evil as the man they've killed.

I'm not sure this is a good way to think about it - it establishes a false moral equivalence between mass murder and celebrating the demise of a mass murderer. Reminds me a little of when anti-gay people tell human rights advocates that they're "being intolerant of my intolerance."

From my point of view, it's human to want closure and/or justice, and attacking Americans for celebrating their closure and/or justice is asking them to be other than human.

What I am saying is that this celebration is not wise, a very negative example of what to do, many of those people who celebrates call themselves believers of biblical god, and didn't the god sayed that forgiving is right and malevolence is wrong. Yes they have brung the justice (for a mastermind, and prolly put an end to Al-Queda) and that is good, I think, but celebrations. It's a would have been a lot better to take a minute of silence for those who died than celebrate malevolently out of fearce revenge...

 

[Telumektar]

First of all I'm not from the States, so I'm quite neutral on this "celebration" subject, still my opinion is subjective, so is my neutrality.

People celebrating someone's death doesn't scare me because it's generally the "simple" kind of people the ones that do that, the ones I expect to act that way, the mass. What got me a little bit nervous was the World Pollice attitude the USA government and the pentagon have over their issues.
I don't think Pakistan asked the USA for help in order to get rid of Bin Laden... but on a second thought if that guy was in my country I would allow a commando to take him out on the possibility of "forcing" the USA to make some Weapons-of-mass-destruction-Bullshit and bring war uppon us in order to kill one or two enemies (and getting "practical" on the subject), better having an small political/diplomatic scandal than being leveled.
Nevertheless, what still scares me is the impunity in which the US makes and breaks whatever they want as if they were some kind of supreme ruler with power over international law and sovereignty over the world.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

First of all, a disclaimer: I'm American, and I really hate these people celebrating in the streets. All my (American) friends agree that it's kind of sick.

The dead deserve dignity and respect, no matter who they were. Death never a victory.

What if by saving someone, you immedietly save 10,000 other people.

Isn't that a victory?

Um...there was no death involved in that, so yes. Yes it is. I have a feeling there's a typo in there somewhere.

That said, I'm pretty sure I see your point. My post my need a little re-phrasing.

 

[Dr Snakeman]

This is how humanity reacts when horrible things go away.

This. It is perfectly acceptable to celebrate that such an evil bastard is dead.

Also, these threads are starting to get old. We get it, you think it's wrong to celebrate when a mass murderer dies. I respectfully disagree. Can we be done now?

 

[rsvp42]

Also, even if it would be a targeted killing, it's still a killing. It's still celebrating the killing of a man. That core doesn't change. But that's how humans are, so whatever.

I think reducing it down to that is missing the point of why there was celebration. No one was cheering murder in general, just the killing of this specific man by our forces. There's much more to it than "man was killed."

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Ill concede, it is a little fucked up. But then again wasn't it a little fucked up we were celebrating that Zangreif kid who bodyslam the smaller bully on concrete?

It's not odd that we like to see evil get punished, and even if evil is only a relative term, Bin Laden pissed and hurt off a lot of people. The fact we're elated that he's dead isn't that odd, I'd say it's fairly normal considering the human condition.

Regardless, I don't care. I'm glad the he's dead and I'm not.

 

[Alphavillain]

What's worse, celebrating the death of a human being, or not even stopping to think that there is a distinct lack of evidence that he was killed (a picture of his body or face that doesn't look like a half-assed Photoshop stunt)? I've thought for a long time that he was bumped off years ago but that it was too convenient to keep him alive, but I don't think we'll ever know for sure.

 

[rsvp42]

A policy or culture of celebrating murder is barbaric, but this is no simple murder. It's the strategic killing of a specific terrorist. Taking our celebration of this as barbarism is a misinterpretation at best.

Oh yes strategic killing is totally not murder. Obviously because it was planned. Julius Caesar wasn't murdered, he was "strategically killed." How could I forget that? (sarcasm)

I didn't say it was not murder, I said it was "no simple murder" and then specified what I meant. Please don't misconstrue my words.

 

[Dorian6]

I was thinking the same thing. Say of me what you will, but I can't really get excited over a person's death. I will grant that he was horrible, and the world is a better place without him, but I don't feel like someone being killed is cause for celebration.

 

[JoJo]

First of all, a disclaimer: I'm American, and I really hate these people celebrating in the streets. All my (American) friends agree that it's kind of sick.

The event of a death should always be met with dignity and respect, no matter who died. Death should never be a cause for celebration.

I can see where you're coming from, the premature ending of a life is not normally something to celebrate, but this guy was a massive douche; there were innocent little children on those planes who weren't shown the dignity and respect they deserved by him and so I'm glad that justice has finally been served.

 

[funguy2121]

Honestly, I'm happy that America have got what they consider justice for 911. If my loved ones had died in a situation like this then I can't deny that I'd want nothing more than to see the person responsible dead. However, in no situation can I honestly understand celebrating murder. Yes, he may of deserved to die for his actions but can't America take the higher ground on this!? Sure they have justice for the most shocking tragedy in their history but in my eyes murder is murder and to celebrate it is barbaric. Also, its not like the war on terrorism is over...

A policy or culture of celebrating murder is barbaric, but this is no simple murder. It's the strategic killing of a specific terrorist. Taking our celebration of this as barbarism is a misinterpretation at best.

Oh yes strategic killing is totally not murder. Obviously because it was planned. Julius Caesar wasn't murdered, he was "strategically killed." How could I forget that? (sarcasm)

Caeser wasn't a terrorist (though he was kind of an asshole). It's not really fair to only include part of his sentence and ignore the other part. I don't recall Julias being a mass murderer, though Caligula had to go as quickly as possible (also, he fucked his sister. Ew.).

 

[Android2137]

Well as long as we don't go absolutely crazy and start killing the wrong people or doing the wrong things on someone else's turf, there's really nothing to worry about.

...Sometimes, my naivety surprises even me...

Captcha, what's this... lsolica you speak of?

 

[Popido]

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A policy or culture of celebrating murder is barbaric, but this is no simple murder. It's the strategic killing of a specific terrorist. Taking our celebration of this as barbarism is a misinterpretation at best.

Lets just call it cultural shock.

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Sorry. I had to lol at the bold text.

I'm not sure why...

I kinda pictured you with a monocle, tophat and bloody sledgehammer, giving this speech to me as I accidently find you in a room full of disfigured bodies.

Also, you're now british.

 

[Ezekiel Fuchs]

I had a party last night for Osama being killed. But I know that there will be more attacks on the us.

 

[Dr Snakeman]

I heard that he hid behind one of his wives as he was shot. It's hard not to hate such a man, a coward who would ask others to commit suicide for his cause. Is it right to celebrate his death? No. But neither were the bastard's actions in life. This man got what was coming to him, and the celebrating afterward is more humiliation of a man that deserves it, whether it was right of us to dish it out or not.

Medieval? Yes, a bit. But it appears we haven't evolved our base instincts much over time, especially the one that controls our thirst for vengeance. I can't say I blame the Americans that did this, and frankly that's one less evil bastard in the world to deal with.

Seriously? You 'heard'? Mate, try not to believe in everything you hear. For all his shortcomings, Bin Laden was a polite, quietly-spoken man. He wasn't the 'evil bastard' or the coward that you perceive him to be. He was just a man who believed in a cause. While I don't condone his kind of extremism (no one should), you reaction is more than a little over the top.

Bull. Fucking. Shit. I didn't hear, I read in the New York Times that he used one of his wives as a human shield. He was a murderous bastard. He financed the Taliban, psychopaths who murder innocents if they are "corrupted" by western influences. Al-Qaeda, the organization he was in charge of, is even worse. They send suicide bombers to kill Jews, Shiite Muslims, and anyone from the West, regardless of religion. He was even a bad guy in his personal life. I've read an article by one of his sons that said he was a cruel man, a terrible father.

Saying he was a halfway decent guy is the most wrong thing you could say. How the hell did you get so misinformed?