Thoughts on the PC gamer "master race"

[Caprice0083]

I've heard this term thrown around quite a lot, and I must say, I see no evidence supporting the phrase. I am a console gamer first and foremost, but I play a lot of PC as well and there is no difference. The community is the same, the games that are considered good are good on both sides (generally) and both the keyboard-and-mouse control and gamepad control can be equally accurate and frustrating. Who came up with the idea of PC's being inherently better and who actually believes it?

I don't own a PC (I have both 360 and PS3)but after playing Lost Planet 2, Call of Duty World at War, and Gears of War on console and PC, PC spanks both consoles sound and graphics wise and those butter smooth frame rates with the right graphics card are crazy. The PC has expansion far beyond the limitations of console and you have a choice between Mouse/Keyboard combo and controller. If I had the cash, I'd get a PC rig in a heartbeat.

 

[Windcaler]

The whole master race thing started out as a joke that some console players take way to seriously.

 

[Bakuryukun]

I don't really care whether the games I play are on PC or Console....It's a trivial footnote in the experience I have with a game to me.

 

[jprf]

If your main issue is graphics and modding and you have no problems with the cost then PC is obviously the way to go, but I wouldn't call it as cut and dry as a lot of posters are making out. Even making only the upgrades you need to to keep up, PC gamers are going to spend around twice as much as console gamers. That's fine for some, but for many it's impossible. At the beginning of a console generation you can spend around £250 and be fine for any game released in the next 6 years. They won't look quite as pretty, but is that honestly such a big deal? The most important factor should be the games available for it, and on that front I think (though you may disagree) that consoles have the edge (I'm not including indie games in that as they can be played on any basic PC).

Just a side point, the controls thing is entirely subjective. The mouse may be more precise, but that doesn't make it fun to use, and keyboards just annoy me- I prefer console controllers for anything which isn't an RTS. Others may think differently, but that doesn't make either of us wrong.

 

[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

First of all, I said PC fanboys, not PC gamers (a group I would count myself in).

Ironic that you use a derogatory and charged word like "fanboy" given the context of your post.

Secondly, not only is your argument that they only act like that to console gamers moronic, but it's also wrong. I've frequently found threads on this site that's literally just a bunch of PC fanboys circle jerking about how they are the superior race, and any gamer who isn't among them is an 8 year-old retard, with very little reaction on the thread from console gamers.

Okay. And? How does this have anything to do with anything? Your accusation was that PC "fanboys" spend all their time, to what amounts to, shoving down their beliefs down other people's throats. How does the example you gave relate to what you first said at all?

Thirdly, the accusation that console gamers treat everyone like sh*t, can quite frankly be shoved up your arse.

Oh right. So I all those 12 year olds who do nothing but swear and throw racial slurs on XBLA isn't "treating people like shit"?

For someone who is saying this thread will become a flamewar, you sure as hell don't do anything to distance yourself from preventing the thread from becoming one... much less show any more or less grace than the people who sit around and bash. You are sitting around acting superior and "holier than thou"... making you really no better than the subset of PC gaming you are trying to insult. You are the pot calling the kettle black, if you will. Your post is no better than the people who are so desperately crying out against. Generally, it is good advice to look in a mirror before you start insulting people, you know.

Fair enough, maybe I do get a bit over defensive of console gamers, but my main issue is that three posts in, you still refuse to see that not everyone who plays on a console is an arse-hole. It's a pretty f*cking big assumption, and also fairly insulting to the thousands of gamers who probably aren't very different from you in anyway but what platform they play games on.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I think it's bullshit. I've never understood other gamers feel the need to segregate themselves or limit themselves to a single gaming platform. Me? I'll game on anything that plays games. PC, console, iPad... well I don't have an iPad (or any similar device), but if I did you can bet I'd be playing games on it. Anyone who intentionally limits themselves to one gaming platform and feels any sort of pride in doing so no doubt has their head stuck so far up their own ass that their probably choking on it.

 

[Abengoshis]

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Wow. Nice job cherry picking my post. Did you not read the part where I said you can easily drop 400-600 dollars on a gaming PC and be set for the next few years? It was THE ENTIRE point of my post! You TOTALLY cherry picked my argument! That's a classic logical fallacy! That's just low, man.

My i5 2500k with gtx 560ti barely runs games on high now those two parts alone are over 400bucks much less a PSU, MB, ram, HD and OS. Sure you could skimp out and get a lesser gfx card cheap mb, and amd processor but then your hardly going to be running anything in hd with high settings. much less be set for a few years. Just curious what build in the under 600 dollar range is going to run BF 3 or Metro 2033 on anything higher than midrange.

Barely runs anything on high? What?

A 560 Ti... Really?

Seriously?

Did you underclock it to 1Hz or what?

http://www.techspot.com/review/359-nvidia-geforce-gtx-560ti/page4.html

It runs Dirt 2 at Max quality at 90 FPS, how is that "barely near high"?

Yeah! I've got an i5 and a gtx 460, which I believe is WORSE than the gtx 560ti, and I can play every game I have, including Crysis 2, on the highest settings (well, crysis 2 has to be a lower resolution than the others, but that's only if I enable all the features of dx11 such as tesselation, if not then I can play every game I've got on the highest settings, except Crysis 2 which I play on the highest settings for whaterveritisinsteadofdx11).

The man you're quoting is an idiot.

 

[StriderShinryu]

The whole master race thing started out as a joke that some console players take way to seriously.

Yeah. Though, to be fair, it was really just putting a name to the silly group of PC gaming fanboys. Fanboys of any gaming system deserve all the mockery they receive.

 

[Dr Pussymagnet]

Whenever I get into this argument with other people PC gamers usually tend to throw in all the technical reasons as to why PCs are superior, specifically in terms of things like "superior hardware" and "superior graphics". You can go on and on about how your PC has more RAM than my 360, but to people like me who just simply want to play games, I don't give a fuck about the technical side of things. If the system I'm playing on can run the game well, then great.

Also, the "superior controls" one really frustrates me. If you're better suited to a mouse and a keyboard, then more power to you, but don't tell me what controls I'd be better suited for. I'll play whatever the hell I'm comfortable with, regardless if it's a controller or not.

 

[Abengoshis]

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I hate PC Elitists with a burning passion
I've been console gaming for 18 years now and I'd rather game whilst sprawled across a couch.
The reasons I play consoles are:

1)I prefer thumb-sticks to the Mouse approach. At least when playing an FPS I don't end up pointing at the sky because a bit of dust came within 50 feet of my mouse

2)I don't have to bother updating drivers

3)I don't have to buy new parts every month

4)Aside from RTS and MMORPG(2 genres I hate anyway), every other genre is better on consoles
(see my thumb-stick v mouse in point 1 for FPS players since they will no doubt throw a fit over that)

5)The main one...I'm not a graphics whore...I don't need DX11 to make me think I'm awesome...I don't need to go into forums and brag about my, and I hate this term, rig...I don't need mods for my games

I'm sitting here with just the humble Gamecube at the moment. It's all I need for me to be happy gaming. Sure it's not the most powerful hardware but the games have miles more charm than yours. I'd quite happily sit and play Metroid Prime/Windwaker/Billy Hatcher than ANY of your big-budget DX11 powered drivel
You PC Elitists have some kind of delusion of grandeur and mince around like demi-gods but in being absolutely childlike in your bragging, get ready for this, YOU PC ELITISTS JUST COME OFF AS PATHETIC

1) My mouse isn't from the 70's, and I don't molt dead skin, so dust or tiny particles aren't a problem. I prefer mouse and keyboard with my games, but whatever...
2) I rarely do this, in fact I've only done it once - when I made the PC. Even so it takes hardly any time at all.
3) Neither do I.
4) That's your opinion, don't state it as fact.
5) I'm not a graphics whore, but when I see a beautiful looking game I'd rather it look beautiful. You don't need mods? Nope, noone NEEDS mods, but they're damn fun if you WANT to try them.

I agree that the Gamecube has amazing games on it, but if I want to play new games or play with actual people online, I'd rather play on my PC. Also you're exaggerating the price. My PC cost around £500 to build. You have a misconception of PC gaming, probably created by the elitist assholes who, as you say, brag about PC gaming instead of letting people play what they want.

I just wanted to point that out.

 

[Waaghpowa]

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Just wanted to point out that all of your arguments are subjective, when most of the pro PC arguments are objective. Actual evidence is given i.e superior hardware, and control speed/accuracy (And yes, it's been proven mouse is more accurate. You have to concede to the fact that it's your opinion, and the opinion is not what they have a problem with.

Also calling people elitists and pathetic doesn't elevate you above them.

 

[Fenn]

I just laugh at people who say PC gaming has "more games". Yeah, of the shovelware variety. Of games that are worth two craps? Consoles have them beat at a rate near two to one. And before you start? Hows that PC version of Mortal Kombat turning out? Or what about Marvel Vs. Capcom 3? Red Dead Redemption? LA Noire?

Hmm, Battlefield, a traditionally PC exclusive franchises is on Ps3 and 360 as well. I mean fuck it, Diablo III is heading to consoles. How fucking self delusional do you have to be to lie to yourselves about "more games"?

What about the best rpgs ? Barley any of them are on consoles. That's why i got a pc for gaming.

What PC exclusive RPGS? Witcher 2, Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age, Mass Effect 3, Skyrim, Deus Ex Human Revolution, these games are all on consoles to a one. Name one RPG worth a damn thats not on consoles. On the other hand, the good JRPGs never touch the PC with a 20 foot pole. Half the RPG genre doesn't even touch the PC.

He's wrong in assuming that there are a lot of RPGs exclusive to PC. However, I've got a question for you, regarding a certain RPG. Did you ever play Oblivion? If so, was it on a console? Because PCs had full mod support for that game, you were able to customize damn near everything to how you wanted it, could you do that with your shitbox360 and it's colorful buttons? Yeah, didn't think so.

Same thing will apply to Skyrim, as Bethesda has always provided mod support for it's titles. Good fucking game. You lose.

 

[Gorilla Gunk]

When are the mods going to lock this junk thread?

 

[Dr Pussymagnet]

Here's the best part though. We get essentially free games, why? Because PC players, playing games like counter strike, or mount and blade, or really any major PC release have one thing you people don't. Modding. You get fed DLC and Map Packs like the mindless cattle that you are, meanwhile PC players are perfectly free to design their own maps and game modes, to the point where a mod may not even faintly resemble the game used to build it. In essence, a new and free game.

You sir are an idiot, along with the rest of these idiots defending inferior hardware. Oh, and one final note, lets assume for a moment, you are correct in assuming that there are more console games than there are for PC (which you arent, but lets go with it). You do know why that would be right? Because there's more of you, little cretins unable to create your own machine, because you are too technically incompetent, so game developers know that if they shovel games to the unthinking console masses, AKA, you. Then they will get more sales, because people are lazy and would rather go buy a box and plug it into their TV, than make a powerful gaming platform.

In short, you people exist because of convenience, nothing more.

Welp, that was painful to read.

 

[Stall]

My i5 2500k with gtx 560ti barely runs games on high now those two parts alone are over 400bucks much less a PSU, MB, ram, HD and OS. Sure you could skimp out and get a lesser gfx card cheap mb, and amd processor but then your hardly going to be running anything in hd with high settings. much less be set for a few years. Just curious what build in the under 600 dollar range is going to run BF 3 or Metro 2033 on anything higher than midrange.

I managed to throw together a GTX550 ti/i5-2300/8BG DDR3 for a little under 700 in a few minutes on newegg (not counting a monitor). That set-up should run Metro very confidently and probably run BF3 pretty nicely as well. You could probably go down to a real beefy core 2 duo or i3 and a 400 series and be totally fine for Metro (and MAYBE BF3), and save even more if you shopped carefully and looked for deals.

I personally prefer AMD, and would have used it if you didn't subtly challenge otherwise. A comparable rig would probably be even cheaper with AMD instead.

 

[Fenn]

Here's the best part though. We get essentially free games, why? Because PC players, playing games like counter strike, or mount and blade, or really any major PC release have one thing you people don't. Modding. You get fed DLC and Map Packs like the mindless cattle that you are, meanwhile PC players are perfectly free to design their own maps and game modes, to the point where a mod may not even faintly resemble the game used to build it. In essence, a new and free game.

You sir are an idiot, along with the rest of these idiots defending inferior hardware. Oh, and one final note, lets assume for a moment, you are correct in assuming that there are more console games than there are for PC (which you arent, but lets go with it). You do know why that would be right? Because there's more of you, little cretins unable to create your own machine, because you are too technically incompetent, so game developers know that if they shovel games to the unthinking console masses, AKA, you. Then they will get more sales, because people are lazy and would rather go buy a box and plug it into their TV, than make a powerful gaming platform.

In short, you people exist because of convenience, nothing more.

Welp, that was painful to read.

I know, the truth hurts doesn't it?

 

[Waaghpowa]

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I've played MAG, and the one thing that annoys me on every console game, not just MAG, is how the resolution is so low to make up for lack or processing power that everything looks fuzzy. Though keep in mind some console games are better than others.

 

[Dr Pussymagnet]

Here's the best part though. We get essentially free games, why? Because PC players, playing games like counter strike, or mount and blade, or really any major PC release have one thing you people don't. Modding. You get fed DLC and Map Packs like the mindless cattle that you are, meanwhile PC players are perfectly free to design their own maps and game modes, to the point where a mod may not even faintly resemble the game used to build it. In essence, a new and free game.

You sir are an idiot, along with the rest of these idiots defending inferior hardware. Oh, and one final note, lets assume for a moment, you are correct in assuming that there are more console games than there are for PC (which you arent, but lets go with it). You do know why that would be right? Because there's more of you, little cretins unable to create your own machine, because you are too technically incompetent, so game developers know that if they shovel games to the unthinking console masses, AKA, you. Then they will get more sales, because people are lazy and would rather go buy a box and plug it into their TV, than make a powerful gaming platform.

In short, you people exist because of convenience, nothing more.

Welp, that was painful to read.

I know, the truth hurts doesn't it?

No, not really.

It's mostly the elitism.

 

[Fenn]

Here's the best part though. We get essentially free games, why? Because PC players, playing games like counter strike, or mount and blade, or really any major PC release have one thing you people don't. Modding. You get fed DLC and Map Packs like the mindless cattle that you are, meanwhile PC players are perfectly free to design their own maps and game modes, to the point where a mod may not even faintly resemble the game used to build it. In essence, a new and free game.

You sir are an idiot, along with the rest of these idiots defending inferior hardware. Oh, and one final note, lets assume for a moment, you are correct in assuming that there are more console games than there are for PC (which you arent, but lets go with it). You do know why that would be right? Because there's more of you, little cretins unable to create your own machine, because you are too technically incompetent, so game developers know that if they shovel games to the unthinking console masses, AKA, you. Then they will get more sales, because people are lazy and would rather go buy a box and plug it into their TV, than make a powerful gaming platform.

In short, you people exist because of convenience, nothing more.

Welp, that was painful to read.

I know, the truth hurts doesn't it?

No, not really.

It's mostly the elitism.

Oh, well then good thing the elitism is justified. Now go back to mashing buttons on your plastic box powered primarily by 5 year old hardware, duct tape, gum, and copious amounts of steaming shit.

 

[Waaghpowa]

I couldn't care less about mod support

You'd care if Chuck Norris and He-man were in it.