Thousands Sign StarCraft 2 Petition
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http://www.geek.com/articles/games/pushing-buttons-starcraft-2s-lan-party-potential-2009076/Amnestic said:
That's not LAN. That's logging into BattleNet from the same location, something entirely different. LAN would cut BattleNet out of the picture entirely and just have you playing with no internet connection required whatsoever. They could even do a simple BNet 'verification' service before you can all LAN play without further internet connection required, but they haven't.FujinAkari said:
Not everyone has super high speed internet, shockingly enough, and having more than three people connecting to BNet will start to choke the connection and cause lag which will, obviously, reduce how fun the game experience is.
Even the article didn't say LAN support, just that you're all connecting through the same internet connection and are playing Private Matches. That's got nothing to do with LAN whatsoever. It may simulate a LAN party, but it's just that, a simulation. It's not the real thing and for those of us without the King and Queen of internet services due to us not living in America/Sweden/Hong Kong/wherever, we have to deal with our connection being choked and high latency. Something which will get you killed in public games.
Starcraft was designed for a 56K modem. -Everyone- has that. Starcraft II is more graphically challenging, but I don't see a compelling reason why it would require significantly more connection than SC1Amnestic said:
Edit: Additionally, Blizzard has explicitly said they are building options into the new battle.net to accommodate LAN users... which sounds like an emulated LAN that doesn't require as much communication with Bnet...
How much traffic does a 1v1 or 2v2 game require and what is your connection speed?Amnestic said:
Will every SC match be hosted on Blizz servers or will it be p2p?
Will BNet connection require constant data stream or will the game call mother ship at set intervals (end of match, end of mission and such...)?
Most of you seam to forget not everybody has the internet connection. And a lot of us who have it, have it slow and EXPENCIVE (the kind you pay depending how much time you spend online). Yes, whe are out there, there's a lot of us and we're pissed!
That's the thing, where do you stop then? Do you stop with internet, or system requirements or gameplay mechanics?klockmeyka said:
You could argue the same for each of those;
-Oh Blizzard, please make your game so it can run on highest settings on my single core 3GHz Athlon and ATI X1600
-Oh Blizzard, please make it so that I can choose easy and AI does everything I don't have dexterity to do, I want to be able to compete without having to learn to play like the rest of the kids
There is a lot of us and we're not really pissed but we are mildly annoyed that we have to adjust to the things as they are and put in some effort or money.
I see your plight and I sympathize with your pitiful internet connection issue. It's just that I look far more toward all the social features new BNet can bring with it's ONline policy.
I don't want you to get good while playing LAN and then coming in and destroying everyone on your path in public games. I want to know who I fight when I come across you, I want to be able to "google" you before or after the game and get some real info. I want to know if my friends are on and playing every time I fire up the game, not wonder if they are playing off line somewhere or whatever...
I look forward to new options way more than focusing on possibly negative effects. Even if you have a crap connection, you can still play multiplayer, and let's face it, if you're still using such connection, you really can't call yourself pro enough to mind some lag.
System requirements and gameplay mechanics??? Hey, I just want this game to have a widely accepted, not hard to implement, long time standard feature!
"if you're still using such connection, you really can't call yourself pro enough to mind some lag." What kind of new age discrimination is this!? You are judging my APM and my micro ¯o skills on the basis of what kind of internet providers are available in my country???
And even if I wasn't much of a player, having absolutely no place where one can play a multiplayer oriented game without a lag is equally fun destroying for anyone! ...Having no place where I can play for free since I'm paying for every minute I'm connected!
"I don't want you to get good while playing LAN and then coming in and destroying everyone on your path in public games." ...Yes I guess that is a risk. But it is the one a huge number of players is willing to take in exchange of having LAN connectivity.
Blizzard is not doing this to protect you against such assholes. It's doing it to push out KeSPA and create another monopoly. Here: http://www.ghetto-overlord.com/Blog/?p=1109
"if you're still using such connection, you really can't call yourself pro enough to mind some lag." What kind of new age discrimination is this!? You are judging my APM and my micro ¯o skills on the basis of what kind of internet providers are available in my country???
And even if I wasn't much of a player, having absolutely no place where one can play a multiplayer oriented game without a lag is equally fun destroying for anyone! ...Having no place where I can play for free since I'm paying for every minute I'm connected!
"I don't want you to get good while playing LAN and then coming in and destroying everyone on your path in public games." ...Yes I guess that is a risk. But it is the one a huge number of players is willing to take in exchange of having LAN connectivity.
Blizzard is not doing this to protect you against such assholes. It's doing it to push out KeSPA and create another monopoly. Here: http://www.ghetto-overlord.com/Blog/?p=1109
Well, the way your phrasing it isn't exactly correct. Its more of "KesPa has been actively working against globalizing Starcraft for ten years, so Blizzard isn't willing to let them control Starcraft 2."klockmeyka said:
Well, that's true FujinAkari, but I don't think that contradicts anything I?ve sad. It is a power struggle at the expense of hundreds of thousands of fans/players all around the world.FujinAkari said:
I'm not sure if I've mentioned this in the thread before, and I'm not all that keen about going through 6 pages to see if I did, but why not this.
1. Release Wings of Liberty without LAN, ON TIME.
2. Either patch LAN into WOL or put it in the next installment.
That way people can use LAN, and StarCraft 2 doesn't get delayed because of it.
1. Release Wings of Liberty without LAN, ON TIME.
2. Either patch LAN into WOL or put it in the next installment.
That way people can use LAN, and StarCraft 2 doesn't get delayed because of it.
Like I said, I just want a new game that doesn't force me to upgrade my box and option to use AI help to overcome my lack of skill, how is that so much different? Making a game with older graphics is a lot easier, cheaper, faster and better for anyone with an old PC.klockmeyka said:
What country are you from? Do you think rest of us gets internet for free?
"Yes I guess that is a risk. But it is the one a huge number of players is willing to take in exchange of having LAN connectivity." -I expect the number to be the same
I'd just like to point out that I did not sign this petition because I do't plan to play Starcraft II. However that does not change my belief that getting rid of LAN is a retarded idea and that Blizzard is doing this because they want more of your money.
HahaMazty said:
This has nothing to do with you.
You went through all my replies?
It's the internet.
It's not personal.
Maybe you should get off the internet and go outside?
