Too much sex and nudity in TV/Movies?

[FalloutJack]

This is a progression of what society can handle in entertainment media. Remember, some years ago, Alfred Hitchcock shocked the film world when he - in his own suspenseful way - showed a woman getting stabbed to death in the shower. At the time, this was most unheard of and unbelievable that he would do such a thing, especially when you consider he hadn't told Janet Leigh what would happen when the scene started and got a very natural and realistic reaction.

Suffice to say, what was shocking then is more normal now, and films have tried to push the envelope quite far. There isn't too much until the world says to cut back, that we can't handle so much of it at this time. You, OP, have voiced an opinion. Others may agree and gather in numbers. When the numbers you represent get large enough, society may cut back a degree, perhaps. This may too one day be media history.

 

[Yoshemo]

Try watching European television. Some countries allow full frontal nudity

 

[TheKruzdawg]

Me and my friend are sharing a copy on Steam, I'm always full paragon and he's always full renegade. Renegade Shepard is funny as hell to watch, since most of the time he's just a douche-bag for the sake of being a douche-bag. Like when he extorts a shop owner into giving him a discount, then refuses to shop at the store anyway. Or head-butts a Krogan. XD

It's kinda cool seeing how different the game plays out. (Though I usually threaten to hurt him whenever he's mean to Tali.)

I did like the ways that Shepard is different between Paragon and Renegade. And at times it was REALLY satisfying to sound like a total ***** as my FemShep. But there were always certain people I couldn't be mean to (namely Garrus and Tali).

 

[Bobbity]

I often find outright depictions of sex in film or on television to be annoying or unnecessary, but find that if the action is implied, then it's fine - even beneficial at times.

That is, of course, unless the film itself directly calls for a depiction of sex, because it's integral to the plot or themes of the film.

The trend is popular because teenagers like being exposed to it. They could look it up, and most probably do as well, but it's an exciting thing to see on your television set.

Essentially what makes the difference more me is if it's badly written and thrown in, or crucial and well implemented.

 

[DirgeNovak]

Wouldn't really know. I'm a United States American with regular TV.

If I want to see a tit I have to google it.

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They are so hypnotizing...

That reminded me of when I typed in "tits" in Scribblenauts for the hell of it and I got a bird. I giggled.

Anyway, OT:

American network TV is so totally puritanical that writers who work for cable (SHO/HBO...) basically say: "Hey guys, we actually CAN write sex scenes now!", and shoehorn sex scenes basically anywhere in the plot. The only American cable show I watch that uses nudity reasonably (i.e. to advance the plot) is Dexter.

So basically, if the FCC allowed sexual scenes on network shows, there would likely be less sex on TV in general.

 

[Wintermoot]

I am going to give you the advice I also give media watch dogs:
IF YOU DON,T WANT TO SEE IT TURN THE TV OFF OR SWITCH CHANNELS!

 

[tkioz]

I am going to give you the advice I also give media watch dogs:
IF YOU DON,T WANT TO SEE IT TURN THE TV OFF OR SWITCH CHANNELS!

err it has nothing to do with morality, nor do I want it banned, I simply want nudity and sex to be there to advance the narrative, I find brainless blood and gore to be just as annoying, if it's not moving the plot along or developing the characters why the hell is it in the show?

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

Lots of sex != bad writing or lack of plot.

Surprise! People in real life have sex! Some of them even have it multiple times per week, sometimes even multiple times per day (INSANITY! MADNESS! PANIC IN THE STREETS!). It's not just as if shows like True Blood are using it just as a sort of fan-service (though I see nothing wrong with that - the fact that people like watchin something shouldn't mean that it's somehow less valid a thing to put in a show), they're also using it for characterisation. Most every sex scene in True Blood has some purpose: some of the vampires are shown as more cruel, some of the vampires seem more sexy, some of the characters are portrayed as a little bit prudish, so their having sex with someone means a lot.

So, in a sense, these shows are just more realistic. Sure you many not have this much sex, but pretty sure Anna Paquin could get it any time she wanted and Sookie both could and would given the setting and characters, so avoiding that would just be dumb. It just seems like a lot of sex because the rest of US TV is awkwardly void of sex thanks to our beloved moral guardians.

Executive summary: People have a lot of sex, people like watching sex, sex is a huge motivating factor in a lot of interpersonal relationships, sex can be a great tool for characterisation, and sex doesn't stand in for plot, it is plot. The insistence that it's somehow "cheap" is just another attempt by people uncomfortable with it to make it less significant than it is.

 

[pyramid head grape]

god yes Have you seen Elfen lied is pretty much gore and nudity start to finish 1 minute in you see a fully exposed chick and 5 seconds after that a random character gets every arm and leg ripped off with telekinetic hands some going for all the other 40 samey looking guards still naked at this point. Later gets snipped with a head shot with a 50 cal and survives with telekinetic hands *I wish a was kidding*. From then on they find shit reasons to get her clothes off example 1: my clothes are all wet and more or less see through.

Very easy to see why people like it XD LOLz

 

[Wintermoot]

I am going to give you the advice I also give media watch dogs:
IF YOU DON,T WANT TO SEE IT TURN THE TV OFF OR SWITCH CHANNELS!

err it has nothing to do with morality, nor do I want it banned, I simply want nudity and sex to be there to advance the narrative, I find brainless blood and gore to be just as annoying, if it's not moving the plot along or developing the characters why the hell is it in the show?

to have a high number of viewers.

 

[Bakuryukun]

Frig, I hate sex scenes especially in movies, that shit is awkward. I wouldn't pay 9.50 to go into a dark room with like 80 other people to watch two people have sex ever, so stop assuming that's what I wanna do Hollywood. >=\

 

[VanQ]

I don't watch a lot of tv but I know what the OP is talking about. Unfortunately, sex gets ratings and there's nothing you can do about it. Also, this image may be relevant to this thread:

 

[ScumbagEddie]

I'm agreeing with MovieBob about the romantic comedy genre being unrealistic with how little sex is actually in it

 

[Kiju]

Hollywood is just bragging about it because any time you see tits in a game, all hell breaks loose.

But in Television? Oh, that's perfectly fine.

 

[Hiroshi Mishima]

People have been focusing on the "sex sells" concept too much recently. I'm not much of a fan of it either, it just gets overdone and rather tiring. Of course, I don't watch much else other than History, Discovery, and Travel Channels so I'm sort of exempt from the sex/nudity shows.

Pretty much this, including the fact that I do primarily watch the History, Discovery and Animal Planet channels. But part of that reason is that there's genuinely nothing good on TV anymore, it's all pandering to some common denominator and not trying to actually be quality TV. Most of the good shows get canceled within a season or two, as well, because they're being bumped aside for some new stupid show which'll either suck, or get canceled later on, too.

But I also feel this way about the video game industry, as well.

 

[thatcanadianguy]

man theres SO much nuditiy in television and on the internet.. i just sit there shakeing my fist

 

[Napierdalac]

In Denmark, our commercials feature full nudity.

Do any of us have a problem with it? Nah, not really. Sex and nudity is such a natural part of life, we don´t have to be scared of it ! Embrace it, teach your kids about sex, and have sex ! (not in front of your kids.. Thats still a bad idea)

Maybe thats why, we don't have so much troubles with teen pregnancy.

I am making it sound a little like, Denmark being a hippie state where we all run around naked holding hands. It isn't. We are a country of sexually liberated douchebags.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

You know, I'm 38...so I remember what TV and film was like in the 70s/early 80s...and there was a lot more nudity back then than there is now. Before PG-13, there were boobs all over the place in PG films.

Carry-On Films?

Thing was though, back in those days, they were proper boobs. Realistic, slightly flabby boobs - not these trim, make-up coated boobs we see today.

Even matching a show like Confessions of a... against Ghost Whisperer, the sheer amount of female flesh has taken a huge leap forward. But you can't show the nipple or the genitals. Back in the 70/80s, you could see all of the body, but it was realistic. Nowadays, it's only some - but in huge amounts, perfected and everywhere.

 

[DanDeFool]

Hell, I'll look at all the butt-ass-naked men you want me to if we can get a healthy attitude towards sex in this damn country.

I probably won't enjoy it, but sometimes you just gotta take one for the team.

Would you prefer that as a list, or thumbnails?

I would prefer not-at-all, unless you can guarantee it'll get us over the whole "SEX IZ BAD, 'MMKAY?" thing.