Top most hated/liked Cliche's

[Tycon]

Like:
-Redeemed Villians ( possibly the best characters)
-Villians that aren't flat characters and evil for the sake of adding an engie to move the plot forward without reason.
-Heroes that decide not to kill the villains in the end. ( Its not becoming them but its just unnecessary to do so)
-Sci fi / fantasy settings
-Well thought out romantic sub plots
-Action sequences that forward the plot or provide the climax

Dislike:
-Fade to black previews or constant fade to black throughout the film
-Flat characters that are generally red shirts
-Glairing predictable outcome of the movie ending
-Untransitioned change of character personality without warning time. One moment they are a tough bully, the next a little *****. A damsel in distress that when you finally get there to rescue her she rips the ropes off pulls a gun out and blows the whole building up. Its fine for characters to be dynamic but the change shouldn't happen without reason and so quickly.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

like:
- The underdog story.
- Romance subplots.
- The odd man out.

dislike:
- It's intentionally crappy so it's good. See Machette.
- Shaky cam.
- Lack of originality played off as homage. See Quentin Tarantino.
- The "no one believes the hero till it's too late" plotline. Usually disaster movies.
- Snarky animation movies. See Dreamworks.
- The "colorful" gang of "individuals" in either a horror or adventure movie.

All of this. Also.

Likes:

- Self sacrifice when done right
- Plucky hero trope when humble
- Definitely an underdog
- Betrayal. The more brutal and unexpected the better. Nothing wrenches your heart more than totally unexpected betrayal (this can sometimes be AWFULL COUGH PANTYSTOCKING COUGH)
- Positive main character, upbeat
- So bad its good when it breaks ALL the rules and gives zero fucks at all (Kill bill)
- Villains who were once good and cant really be blamed for their evil (adventure time im looking at you!)

Dislikes:

- Any amount of wangst or teenage angst. Sure i guess angst like any feeling can be explored but fuck angst. Fuck it. Im so sick of teenage angst when i see it in a movie its an instant turn off.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Wangst (Because fuck you)

- Troubled past trope when overplayed.
- Dark mysterious figure trope which seems to be trying WAY too hard to be cool.
- Grunts and henchmen. Suspension of disbelief is broken almost instantly when i see legions of faceless grunts do stupid things and march into death
- Evil villain has no motivation other than TEH EVILS or MOAR POWER. As satisfying as it is to watch someone beat up a "hitler" type character with no redeemable features it gets very boring after a while.

 

[Nouw]

Cliche=/=Trope.

With that out of the way, here's a video [http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/24318-top-11-coolest-cliches] of 11 cliches I love. Particularly number 8, number 6 and number 1. I have no other reason for liking them aside from the rule of cool. Therefore, a slow-motion fight scene with things blowing in the wind to epic choral music would be the coolest thing ever.

 

[Brendan Stepladder]

Dislike:

"You need 7 magical artifacts in order to defeat the evil antagonist!"

 

[sammysoso]

Like:
- Cheesy one-liner accompanied by explosion
- All alien races have contrived reason to speak English
- Literally any cliche that can be applied to spaceships/space combat: I don't care how bad it is, if it has rad space battles, I am IN.

Dislike:
- Characters acting uncharacteristically stupid to force a plot point.
- Love triangles: They are a waste of time and of whatever character has to play the third wheel.
- The slow gliding camera ogling a hot chick, usually set to stupid music.
- Overly convoluted mysteries (see: Lost and Battlestar Galactica reboot)
- The "quirky" character, as in that's their main attribute.

 

[Vault101]

- So bad its good when it breaks ALL the rules and gives zero fucks at all (Kill bill)
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I don't think Kill Bill is "bad" in any sense of the word...I mean I wouldn't put it in the same catagory as such films

yeah its heavyly influenced by older "cult/grindhouse" films....but its not [i/]one[/i] of them...as I said before...its meta/paradoy yet 100% serious at the same time...its an odd case because you just don't see that outside tarantino films

Cliche=/=Trope.
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I know...its just hard to think of "actual"cliches" I like because usually theyre just eye-roll inducing

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

I don't think Kill Bill is "bad" in any sense of the word...I mean I wouldn't put it in the same catagory as such films

yeah its heavyly influenced by older "cult/grindhouse" films....but its not [i/]one[/i] of them...as I said before...its meta/paradoy yet 100% serious at the same time...its an odd case because you just don't see that outside tarantino films

I know what you mean. I watched it 2 days ago for the first time and all i could think was "What IS this?!". It doesnt really fit any category of movie ive seen before. Some of the lines were so hilarious and cliche but delivered so seriously and in a totally over the top wtf way that the only category i could partially shoe horn it into was parody/sobaditsgood. I mean the whole movie just took the piss the entire way through. It had no reservations and no guidelines for anything it did and every scene seemed designed to be as over the top as humanly possible but in a way that made it obvious thety did so. Almost EVERY motion had sound effects in the fights. I dont know what it is but i loved it.

 

[Frasman]

Dislike
-The hero never pulls out! Has sex once, end of the movies comes and 'boom' the chicks pregnant.
-The hero that takes a 15 min beating from the antagonist and miraculously come back to win with only 1 or 2 moves (usually learned by some old fart)
-Old sensai uses a cane, but somehow kicks major ass when the need arises.
-Horror movies with terrible acting.
-99% of most Rom-Com plot devises/twists.
-Smart ass kid.

Like
-An easily escapable, over-elaborate death.
-A hot chick that's stupid.
-An old fart that has a stupid hot chick nurse/assistant (especially Blazing Saddles!)
-An old fart that dies and is supposed to leave his younger stupid hot wife everything in the will, but dosen't.
-Suave hero, has sex at will, with any female that makes eye contact with him.
-Al Bundys "a fat woman walks in the shoe store today" routine.

 

[mrhateful]

Dislike:

Good guys winning

That american film thing where someone finds out he can do something does it more and more earning money and fame, then some mistake or someother stupid thing the guy loses everything and then in the late 10 min turn it all around gets all his friends back and "learn" from the experience or some other stupid message.

 

[bigfatcarp93]

SO MUCH DISLIKE:

Characters telling each other about shit they already know as a form of exposition! FUCK!

If you can't figure out a logical way to deliver exposition, YOU ARE NOT A FUCKING WRITER!

Like:

All the classic villain cliches. Explaining the plan, evil laughter, overly-elaborate deathtraps, all of it. Love it with all my heart.

 

[Sinocenturion]

LIKES:

Epic Space Battles (even though if there was to ever be a space battle in reality, the opposing forces would unlikely ever come into visual range before one side was wiped out)

Professionals (especially professional villains...think Heat & Hans Gruber)

Planning and the preparations for the plans (when well shot they are usually my favorite parts of the movie)


HATES:

Good friends who become lovers at the end (sorry, but if you have been friend zoned, you are N E V E R going to get out of it!!!!)

Someone realizing that they were wrong in the end and all of the sudden does the right thing at the critical moment...L A M E (unless it's the Bridge over the River Kwai, that was pretty cool, but then again he kind of does the right thing at the end by accident)

 

[Dfskelleton]

Likes:
-Villains with very impractical/ridiculous yet cool weaponry. A bad guy with a pair of giant scissors or a gun that shoots black holes is probably going to be a lot more memorable than someone with a gun or a sword.
-Sunglasses. They can make so many people look like douchebags, but with some characters, they work really well.
-Maniacal Laughter. The louder and more insane, the better.
-Long, flowing trench coats. Particularly in the rain or in the moonlight.
-Private Detectives/Detectives of any kind really. I've always had a soft spot for detectives, especially the hard boiled, abrasive film noir types.

Dislikes:
-Meaningless character deaths. If they're just meant to pad out the game, why should I care?
-Protagonists that are never happy. While this isn't a problem in games where the bleakness is key to the games atmosphere, but games where you do something really awesome and the protagonist just sneers. I guess I just like it when the protagonist is having fun too. Hell, even Doomguy flashed a big, toothy grin when he found a new gun.
-Anticlimaxes/Sequel Hooks... Rrrrrr...
-Meaningless characters in general. Characters added solely for diversity or sex appeal really get on my nerves.
-Subplots that never go anywhere. Very self explanatory.

 

[DementedSheep]

Hmm at this moment in time.

Like

-Guile heroes, magnificent bastards...trickster in general I guess.

-Well intention extremist and tragic villains

-Urban fantasy

-Underdog story

-Bittersweet endings

-Stories involving the fey/sidhe when they are more ambiguous rather than nice.

-Gas masks + trench coat. I like gas masks, no idea why.


Hate

-Outright evil villains with no real motivation other than to fuck shit up. The villain is the main driving force behind the plot most of the time. At least give them decent characterisation.

-Faux action girls or when you have a semi action girl who turns into a fucking moron every time the author wants to make things dramatic by having the hero rescue her and is apparently incapacitated whenever someone grabs her by the arm.

-Love triangles. I don?t mind if there a bit of one but it?s not drawn out to long and he character doesn?t flip flop between them or date them both at the same time.

-Fake deaths

-Using a sword in a modern setting for no goddamn reason.

-Guys are strong/ skilled fighters/smart and were suppose to respect hem based on shit they actually do. Girls are the moral centre of the group, inspire the others and we are suppose to respect them because of the shit they endure.

-The hero who has killed many many people working for the big bad without batting an eyelid but all of a sudden has an issue killing the big bad him/herself.

-Unpopular guy falls in love with popular girl who is a ***** and doesn?t even notice him. He beats some popular guy at this own game or saves her life and all of sudden she?s all over him. Especially since a lot of the time it?s played like a lesson about not judging by appearances and being shallow but never acknowledges that he was being shallow too and since she only likes him now because of beating the other guy she is still being shallow.

-A book I read recently had a lot of this. I don?t know if it?s really a cliche, its more just bad writing but when you have heroes that should be completely out classed but somehow always manage to be good enough to outrun and win fights against the enemy. How are you outrunning something that can fly and is of a race that has been repeatedly stated to be much stronger and faster than yours? That makes no sense.

-It also had a lot of ?What was that sound? I think I?ll check it out by myself without telling any of my companions what I am doing even though I know there are monsters everywhere ?

 

[natster43]

Like:
Underdogs
Side characters who are more bad ass than the protagonist
Bad ass boasts
Warrior with a code
Dislike:
Villains being dicks for no reason
When something happens which makes everyone hate the protagonist, only for him to somehow get everyone to like him again
Needless sacrifices
"If I kill him I will be no better than him" bullshit

 

[Relish in Chaos]

Like
-Brooding antiheroes
-?Walking moodily in the rain? scenes
-Apocalyptic futures
-Heroic sacrifices
-The ?hero?s journey?
-Slow-motion martial arts sequences
-Cool guys walking away from explosions with their back turned
-Zombies, as they serve their purpose
-Cheesy but badass one-liners, from the likes of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Bruce Willis
-The scenes where a good guy snaps and just goes fucking bad
-?It was all a dream/hallucination/figment of your imagination??at least it?s upfront about just how much of a fantasy it is, and it?s even better when it?s ambiguous (e.g. Total Recall)
-Tragic backstories
-Premonitions
-Badass trenchcoat-wearing characters (Rorschach FTW!)

Dislike
-Romantic subplots shoehorned into films (e.g. Neo & Trinity in the Matrix trilogy, Rachel in Nolan?s Batman trilogy)
-Characters acting like fucking retards in horror films
-Most birth scenes (this isn?t a fucking soap opera!)
-Manic Pixie Dream Girls (not realistic, just annoying)
-Military porn
-Damsels in distress (fuck off, we?re not in the bloody 40s)
-Buddy-cop films (e.g. the Rush Hour trilogy; I was disappointed when MovieBob said he disliked them)
-Random musical numbers
-Annoying character stereotypes (e.g. overly flamboyant gay man, jive-talking token black gangsta)
-Guy ?gets the girl? (once again, it?s not the bloody 40s)
-?Power of friendship? (even when reading the Harry Potter books as a youngster, I thought that was bullshit)
-Wangst, especially teenage wangst (I deal with enough of this shit from, well, myself and my peers, so why would I want to waste my time with 2 more hours of some whiny 15-year-old going ?NO-ONE UNDERSTANDS ME I?M NOT STRONG ENOUGH WAAHH??
-Expository monologue to yourself when there?s no-one else in the fucking room

 

[Shadowstar38]

Dislike

-How the military is used in pretty much everything. If they're the villain or even neutral, they're all gun-wielding psychopaths who love being in war. Instead of, you know, actually having some fear and reprehension about what they're doing like normal soldiers.

If they're on the good guy's side, they're always amoral as fuck and cause half the problems by themselves. That and their men are always killed off with barely a fight. In the end, the one or two main characters are always more useful than that entire organization.

 

[hoboman29]

LIKE:

Trenchcoats as a symbol of badassery. The way they blow in the wind and just the coolness of the jacket is awesome to me. Almost everyone looks better in one.

Dual Wielding pistols. Pistols only not smg's or stuff like that because then it's just ridiculous but the skill it takes to be shooting 2 guns and reloading them makes for a good gunfight.

Dark Smokey Bars. Gives off a noir mood or the looking for trouble vibe and those are things I like.

DISLIKE:

Chosen One. So you're the only one who can do X thing. I think not. At least one other person has to be able to do that same thing.

Prophecy. I have a prophecy on how this whole thing is gonna go down in 5 seconds and it's binding because it's a prophecy.

Wholly happy endings. Come on you mean to tell me not a single person is worse off for what just happened? Yet again I think not.

 

[Lunar Templar]

like:
power armor.
magic.
heroic sacrifice.
antiheroes
reluctant heroes (so long as the reluctant hero stops whining and mans up at some point)
giant robots [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBW4SWWdFs]
the 'magnificent bastard' villains

dislike:
zombies.
shoe-horned in romances
heroic sacrifice. (when its easily avoidable)
human/elf/dwarf anything (in particular, when they're the ONLY races that are 'good')
reluctant heroes (the ones that never stop whining, ever.)
stupid villains
stupid heroes
'the destined hero'

 

[Judgment90]

Likes:
Badass warrior
Villains with an honor code and sense of morals
Completely insane villains
Capes

Hates:
Emo characters that are always popular
Female characters who are complete bitches
The whiny, annoying, pretentious heroes (Tidus, for example)

 

[DioWallachia]

- "This game has angst and symbolism and grittyness, therefore it is good." Look at every day the same dream for example. It's one of the laziest art games ever made. It basically takes a basic office drone plot line, throws in some symbolism, tells people that that symbolism is also "Mixing up the day", then asks you to interpret everything yourself because it couldn't actually come up with a message.

Do you think that there is an "unwritten rule" that doesnt allow artists to spell out what was the meaning behind their work? because if they do, the work looses its status as art?