Tracer from Overwatch Confirmed as a Lesbian.

[Baffle]

How did you find out my Fanfiction.net pseudonym?

I searched for fart porn. Is that a thing? I could be a superstar!

 

[EternallyBored]

Uh, except it shows them going to spend Christmas with Winston, how Winston is lonely, it shows the good inner nature of Tracer, it shows how all the other heroes are spending Christmas, even hinting at something within Widowmaker, a relationship between Soldier 76 and Ana...yeah there's a lot more to it than that

Anyone could come up with that shit (especially since most of that is already hinted at in the in-game quips).

Fans can come up with anything that's a useless metric, literally any story pairing or plot point blizzard could have written about has been conceived and expounded upon by at least several dozen different fans at one point or another, especially if they are building off lore hints that already exist in the game.

And isn't blizzard expanding on stuff hinted at in game dialogue exactly what they should be doing? What would you want them to do, the exact opposite of the stuff hinted at in their own game?

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Orb-y thing by the tree.

in their apartment yes I see it being charged. But what about at Winston's place?
How did she get there without it?

Under the stairs at the far left.

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

Something else I actually want to know. are there ACTUAL people who are actually angry about this, or are there just people like this little collection of tweeters who just CLAIM people are angry about this?

Cause most of the places I frequent the majority consensus has ranged from "that's hot!" to "who gives a shit?".

And before anyone asks, /pol/ and /v/ don't count. They hate everything.

Yeeeeah, I think this is a classic "LOL people are mad about this HAHAHAH." which gets sent around without anyone (or very few people) actually being mad.

To be fair, I did find ONE guy who is pretty annoyed by this.

Edit: Found a better pic. Well, relatively. Harder to read, but more there.

 

[cojo965]

Oh sweet lord. People are going fucking mental and it's glorious. The Blizzard forums have turned into the goddamn Somme and "Tracer" is trending on Twitter.

Christmas has come early and the internet has given me the gift of laughter.

Cute comic though. I like the big double page showing what everyone is up to. Torb having a massive family is cute. The Widowmaker panel is interesting, I hope we get some more backstory on her and Gerard at some point. Some of her in-game dialogue hints at it being more than a straight up assassination.

I have nothing productive to say here, I just love the pic.

 

[McElroy]

Uh, except it shows them going to spend Christmas with Winston, how Winston is lonely, it shows the good inner nature of Tracer, it shows how all the other heroes are spending Christmas, even hinting at something within Widowmaker, a relationship between Soldier 76 and Ana...yeah there's a lot more to it than that

Anyone could come up with that shit (especially since most of that is already hinted at in the in-game quips).

Fans can come up with anything that's a useless metric, literally any story pairing or plot point blizzard could have written about has been conceived and expounded upon by at least several dozen different fans at one point or another, especially if they are building off lore hints that already exist in the game.

And isn't blizzard expanding on stuff hinted at in game dialogue exactly what they should be doing? What would you want them to do, the exact opposite of the stuff hinted at in their own game?

If you can't break new ground you should leave it be. If just about anything can be used to fuel fanboners, they should be more picky and not less. The in-game lines of dia-/monologue are more related to the game's lore than for example the character quips in League of Legends are - that's cool, giving us something new. This comic on the other hand is thrash. Nothing's stopping them from releasing all sorts of thrash along with decent content, but I'll rather hope they don't.

 

[SweetShark]

Jesus Christ. Why there are 3 different Threads discussing Tracer being a Lesbian?
How many people get burned by seeing her waifu denying their d*cks and instead sucking p*ssies?

 

[Saltyk]

Something else I actually want to know. are there ACTUAL people who are actually angry about this, or are there just people like this little collection of tweeters who just CLAIM people are angry about this?

Cause most of the places I frequent the majority consensus has ranged from "that's hot!" to "who gives a shit?".

And before anyone asks, /pol/ and /v/ don't count. They hate everything.

Yeeeeah, I think this is a classic "LOL people are mad about this HAHAHAH." which gets sent around without anyone (or very few people) actually being mad.

To be fair, I did find ONE guy who is pretty annoyed by this.

Edit: Found a better pic. Well, relatively. Harder to read, but more there.

Yeah, I saw that. The sad part? I guarantee that there was no winning with that idiot. From the little I know about him, he would have complained if Zarya was a confirmed gay instead. There's nothing you can do about people who simply want to be outraged for the sake of being outraged.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Uh, except it shows them going to spend Christmas with Winston, how Winston is lonely, it shows the good inner nature of Tracer, it shows how all the other heroes are spending Christmas, even hinting at something within Widowmaker, a relationship between Soldier 76 and Ana...yeah there's a lot more to it than that

Anyone could come up with that shit (especially since most of that is already hinted at in the in-game quips).

Fans can come up with anything that's a useless metric, literally any story pairing or plot point blizzard could have written about has been conceived and expounded upon by at least several dozen different fans at one point or another, especially if they are building off lore hints that already exist in the game.

And isn't blizzard expanding on stuff hinted at in game dialogue exactly what they should be doing? What would you want them to do, the exact opposite of the stuff hinted at in their own game?

If you can't break new ground you should leave it be. If just about anything can be used to fuel fanboners, they should be more picky and not less. The in-game lines of dia-/monologue are more related to the game's lore than for example the character quips in League of Legends are - that's cool, giving us something new. This comic on the other hand is thrash. Nothing's stopping them from releasing all sorts of thrash along with decent content, but I'll rather hope they don't.

Don't you think that saying anybody who doesn't create something original just shouldn't have bothered - is a wee little restrictive? Like it cuts out about 90% of all entertainment, art, music, media, businesses, fashion, literature, architecture...the list goes on and on. As much as I appreciate originality, I wouldn't want to deprive anybody else or even myself included in these many pleasures in life (and it really is A LOT). And if you're drawing the line specifically at this one place, then that is even more curious as Overwatch is very far from original material with its' game design, archetype character design, cheesy lines spouted regularly. Always demanding originality is a bit of a pompous contradiction that seems to only serve certain viewpoints when convenient and ignored when not.

 

[Qizx]

Something else I actually want to know. are there ACTUAL people who are actually angry about this, or are there just people like this little collection of tweeters who just CLAIM people are angry about this?

Cause most of the places I frequent the majority consensus has ranged from "that's hot!" to "who gives a shit?".

And before anyone asks, /pol/ and /v/ don't count. They hate everything.

Yeeeeah, I think this is a classic "LOL people are mad about this HAHAHAH." which gets sent around without anyone (or very few people) actually being mad.

To be fair, I did find ONE guy who is pretty annoyed by this.

Edit: Found a better pic. Well, relatively. Harder to read, but more there.

Haha, oh man, he's mad because they made a character a lesbian and is attractive. So not upset she's a lesbian because it's "SJW bullshit," but because it's "Misogynistic bullshit."

Goes to show, you can please some people, can't please them all!

 

[EternallyBored]

Uh, except it shows them going to spend Christmas with Winston, how Winston is lonely, it shows the good inner nature of Tracer, it shows how all the other heroes are spending Christmas, even hinting at something within Widowmaker, a relationship between Soldier 76 and Ana...yeah there's a lot more to it than that

Anyone could come up with that shit (especially since most of that is already hinted at in the in-game quips).

Fans can come up with anything that's a useless metric, literally any story pairing or plot point blizzard could have written about has been conceived and expounded upon by at least several dozen different fans at one point or another, especially if they are building off lore hints that already exist in the game.

And isn't blizzard expanding on stuff hinted at in game dialogue exactly what they should be doing? What would you want them to do, the exact opposite of the stuff hinted at in their own game?

If you can't break new ground you should leave it be. If just about anything can be used to fuel fanboners, they should be more picky and not less. The in-game lines of dia-/monologue are more related to the game's lore than for example the character quips in League of Legends are - that's cool, giving us something new. This comic on the other hand is thrash. Nothing's stopping them from releasing all sorts of thrash along with decent content, but I'll rather hope they don't.

Yeah, that first line is bullshit of the highest order, by that logic Blizzard wouldn't even exist as a company as their MO in game making is to take stuff that's been done before and polishing it while adding in a sprinkling of well trodden pop culture references. Blizzard is pretty much founded on doing stuff that's been done before in a way that people find entertaining, we are talking about the company that just released its first actually new IP in 16 years.

As for everything else, the dialogue is perfectly fine for a one shot slice of life comic, its gives enough context without overstaying its welcome or running into the problem of having plot critical developments occur in ancillary material a la something like FF 15.

You can hope they don't all you want, but people love fluffy slice of life shit, it sells, and it may not be my particular cup of tea, but it has about as much weight as random 3-4 lines of dialogue in the FPS that takes place in an alternate dimension where mortal enemies and clones fight on the same side for no actually explained reason.

 

[McElroy]

If you can't break new ground you should leave it be. If just about anything can be used to fuel fanboners, they should be more picky and not less. The in-game lines of dia-/monologue are more related to the game's lore than for example the character quips in League of Legends are - that's cool, giving us something new. This comic on the other hand is thrash. Nothing's stopping them from releasing all sorts of thrash along with decent content, but I'll rather hope they don't.

Don't you think that saying anybody who doesn't create something original just shouldn't have bothered - is a wee little restrictive? Like it cuts out about 90% of all entertainment, art, music, media, businesses, fashion, literature, architecture...the list goes on and on. As much as I appreciate originality, I wouldn't want to deprive anybody else or even myself included in these many pleasures in life (and it really is A LOT). And if you're drawing the line specifically at this one place, then that is even more curious as Overwatch is very far from original material with its' game design, archetype character design, cheesy lines spouted regularly. Always demanding originality is a bit of a pompous contradiction that seems to only serve certain viewpoints when convenient and ignored when not.

If it came out that way I didn't mean so. I'm saying they phoned it in, making it "bigger" with the girlfriend reveal. It's a lapse in quality control. I'm not a psychic, and so I can't know if the makers of the comic were really enthusiastic about doing it and are proud of it as a piece of art. However, it's Blizzard's commission and I'm criticizing their approach AND as I said in my first comment in this chain, I don't understand why people are so deprived of this silly lore they'll just suck up anything. If that means I'm just sour for no good reason, then so be it, though I prefer 'disappointed' over 'sour'.

Yeah, that first line is bullshit of the highest order, by that logic Blizzard wouldn't even exist as a company as their MO in game making is to take stuff that's been done before and polishing it while adding in a sprinkling of well trodden pop culture references. Blizzard is pretty much founded on doing stuff that's been done before in a way that people find entertaining, we are talking about the company that just released its first actually new IP in 16 years.

Breaking new ground doesn't necessarily mean having to be original. Hell, what would that leave us with? I'm pretty sure stuff like colours have already been done at least a couple of times.

You can hope they don't all you want, but people love fluffy slice of life shit, it sells, and it may not be my particular cup of tea, but it has about as much weight as random 3-4 lines of dialogue in the FPS that takes place in an alternate dimension where mortal enemies and clones fight on the same side for no actually explained reason.

I agree. It might be unfair to criticize other people's tastes, but to me the comic adds nothing except the talking point of their mascot character being homosexual and that Reaper panel.

 

[happyninja42]

You can hope they don't all you want, but people love fluffy slice of life shit, it sells, and it may not be my particular cup of tea, but it has about as much weight as random 3-4 lines of dialogue in the FPS that takes place in an alternate dimension where mortal enemies and clones fight on the same side for no actually explained reason.

I agree. It might be unfair to criticize other people's tastes, but to me the comic adds nothing except the talking point of their mascot character being homosexual and that Reaper panel.

Well you can say that about everything that isn't part of the game, not just the Tracer issue. Because it's pretty obvious to anyone familiar with Overwatch, that the lore of the game, and the game itself have 0% to do with each other at all. But the lore, the story that Blizzard came up with, is what got people so hyped for this game. Or at least a lot of people. Some were only interested in it for the gameplay, and that's fine. But there are a lot of people, like myself, who actually don't give a shit about the game (I've never actually played it), and are simply interested in the story world Blizzard created. The fact that none of the "meta" content has any impact on the game, is actually why I don't play it. It annoys me that they make this really cool lore, pitting certain characters against each other in a dramatic, and cinematic nature, but then you can have a team that has lifelong rivals working together to kill their allies. And tons of other people are hyped up to play the game more based on the lore. It feeds into their gameplay enjoyment, beyond just the mechanics. Those are the fans that the comic book series is for. The ones that like the 3rd dimension to their game, and not just the crunch of the mechanics.

So for me, I don't really care what they come up with in the lore, as long as it's interesting. You're right, it adds nothing, if you don't care about the world the game takes place in. But plenty of people do care, and for them, plot points like this are important. It helps to flesh out the world more, make it more vibrant and real.

 

[McElroy]

You can hope they don't all you want, but people love fluffy slice of life shit, it sells, and it may not be my particular cup of tea, but it has about as much weight as random 3-4 lines of dialogue in the FPS that takes place in an alternate dimension where mortal enemies and clones fight on the same side for no actually explained reason.

I agree. It might be unfair to criticize other people's tastes, but to me the comic adds nothing except the talking point of their mascot character being homosexual and that Reaper panel.

Well you can say that about everything that isn't part of the game, not just the Tracer issue. Because it's pretty obvious to anyone familiar with Overwatch, that the lore of the game, and the game itself have 0% to do with each other at all. But the lore, the story that Blizzard came up with, is what got people so hyped for this game. Or at least a lot of people. Some were only interested in it for the gameplay, and that's fine. But there are a lot of people, like myself, who actually don't give a shit about the game (I've never actually played it), and are simply interested in the story world Blizzard created. The fact that none of the "meta" content has any impact on the game, is actually why I don't play it. It annoys me that they make this really cool lore, pitting certain characters against each other in a dramatic, and cinematic nature, but then you can have a team that has lifelong rivals working together to kill their allies. And tons of other people are hyped up to play the game more based on the lore. It feeds into their gameplay enjoyment, beyond just the mechanics. Those are the fans that the comic book series is for. The ones that like the 3rd dimension to their game, and not just the crunch of the mechanics.

So for me, I don't really care what they come up with in the lore, as long as it's interesting. You're right, it adds nothing, if you don't care about the world the game takes place in. But plenty of people do care, and for them, plot points like this are important. It helps to flesh out the world more, make it more vibrant and real.

Yes, I do kinda sorta get it. My gripe with this comic is how you compare it to Blizzard's marketing for the game. The cinematic shorts make Overwatch more of a "grander" experience (though the game is not like that at all). The esports push is for the competitive scene and I think the game itself - along with its CGI-cartoony style - offers something for the casual "games are just toys" -crowd (or at least it's trying). In that equation the comic is a punchline. It has a serious-sounding title, Tracer looking pretty serious in the cover, but it's actually about getting a scarf to gf.

 

[happyninja42]

Yes, I do kinda sorta get it. My gripe with this comic is how you compare it to Blizzard's marketing for the game. The cinematic shorts make Overwatch more of a "grander" experience (though the game is not like that at all). The esports push is for the competitive scene and I think the game itself - along with its CGI-cartoony style - offers something for the casual "games are just toys" -crowd (or at least it's trying). In that equation the comic is a punchline. It has a serious-sounding title, Tracer looking pretty serious in the cover, but it's actually about getting a scarf to gf.

I don't really see the difference personally, between the comic and their marketing. It's all marketing really. It generates hype and conversation about the game, keeps people talking about it, keeps it relevant. Same way with the cinematics, and when they would release them for maximum hype. It's all marketing, it just happens to be a form of marketing that includes storytelling.

Now if you just simply didn't like the story, that's fine, personal tastes and all. I didn't particularly care for the Widowmaker video myself, and find her character annoying. My only point is that the fact they told the story, by coming up with a decision about Tracer's life, isn't any different from every other decision they came up with about the other character's lives, that have zero to do with the game, and yet nobody is complaining about them that I've noticed. I've yet to see threads complaining "Why do we need to know that Genji and..the other guy who I can't remember, are brothers and they fought each other?! What does that have to do with the gaaaame?!?" I only saw comments like "That was a cool cinematic!" etc etc.

So personally, I don't see the distinction of details that some have about this. To me, it's no different than every other personal detail, this one just happens to include sexual aspects. Which, doesn't bother me either way.

 

[RaikuFA]

Something else I actually want to know. are there ACTUAL people who are actually angry about this, or are there just people like this little collection of tweeters who just CLAIM people are angry about this?

Cause most of the places I frequent the majority consensus has ranged from "that's hot!" to "who gives a shit?".

And before anyone asks, /pol/ and /v/ don't count. They hate everything.

Yeeeeah, I think this is a classic "LOL people are mad about this HAHAHAH." which gets sent around without anyone (or very few people) actually being mad.

To be fair, I did find ONE guy who is pretty annoyed by this.

Edit: Found a better pic. Well, relatively. Harder to read, but more there.

I'll just post what I said in the other thread.

 

[Qizx]

All this hububb about Tracer... No one here is talking about Bastion coming out of the closet. He's actually a Trans(former).

 

[Dalisclock]

Blizzard should run with this. Make everyone canonically bi. Enrage the haters and fuel the shippers by making all possible shipping canonically feasible.

 

[maninahat]

What if her girlfriend is trans? Or a hermaphrodite? Technically she might still like the cock. Hell she could even be Bi-sexual. The comic reveals ultimately very little about her other than she likes that "girl" right now.

I'm going off the description here, which has been mostly using the term "lesbian" from what I've seen. Which, would by definition mean she isn't into cock. As that would be a bi-sexual. And sure, maybe she is, I don't know, and I don't care. But the term being used so far is "lesbian" and that has a very specific meaning

Actually it doesn't have anything to do with cocks. You might have heard by now, but we live in an age where people are realising your junk doesn't necessarily define your sex so much. I've known plenty of lesbians who have the hots for trans people. Some people settle for queer as the preferred term, as it covers a broader area beyond a straightforward sexual binary.

I've been reading a lot of daft comments about how they should make her bisexual. Whilst I agree "bisexual erasure" is a general issue, what, are we arguing that a writer should never make someone lesbian, when they could make them bi instead? My bigger surprise is that they haven't revealed more characters to be queer already. I had heard speculation about 76.

As for the comic, it's cute. I like it.

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

Blizzard should run with this. Make everyone canonically bi. Enrage the haters and fuel the shippers by making all possible shipping canonically feasible.

What haters!? The only people I've seen angry about this are the Waifu nuts and Macintosh!