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Trailers: Mass Effect 3 - Take Back Earth Trailer
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Exactly. (...although the collectors did somehow strike me as something of a higher class of husk - more like indoctrinated regular Protheans, that had been genetically modified over time, than the jury-rigged borg-patchwork-shuffle-and-attack-zombies...)Zen Toombs said:
Such wasted potential for the telling of the ME2 story arc.Zen Toombs said:
(So... Think the "Imshai" were the Protheans' Protheans, so to speak, and the race depicted by the statues on Ilos?)
Totally agree. Earth has never meant much before now in ME. The Citadel in ME1 - that was important because it's the centre of galactic government and civilisation. So I enjoyed fighting to save that. I never gave a damn in ME2 that the collectors were attacking specifically human settlements. But I could buy that there may be political disinterest in such a thing, hence the unofficial work with Cerebrus. And if you were paragon, you got to work with the facists to save things before running off with the Cerebrus' biggest investment.Jeyl said:
That stuff was interesting. I'd never done anything quite like that in a game before.
Saving Earth from alien/robot/genocidal AI things? Done that a thousand times.
I hope this is just marketing for the sales to thick or ignorant sheep, and that the game itself is rather deeper.
Earth being the target and humanity being the primary victim is an easy thing to write. JJ Abram's Star Trek, for all it's attempts to say that things will be different in this universe, still conformed to Earth being in danger and that planet needing to be saved above all else, just like it did four out of the nine movies previously.
I think when you boil it down, Bioware's treatment (Whether encouraged by EA or not) of Mass Effect 3 shows that their number one priority is to appeal to the more casual gamer that has never played a single Mass Effect game rather than taking the steps to ensure that everything that goes on in ME3 feels like it belongs with the previous games. And like a lot of movies, games, and TV shows that just want to appeal to the ignorant masses, it doesn't offer any cadence or pace to set up what's at stake, but instead resorts to throwing you into the action offering only moments of pathos like that kid in the opening. Even Earth, the planet that every trailer, tagline and article talks about saving doesn't really seem that important. For instance, how many aliens did you see on Earth? Compare that with how many aliens there are on the Citadel, Omega, Noveria, Illium, and even Tuchanka. All of those worlds have different species of aliens that are not indigenous their, and for the final installment of this galaxy scale game, we'our goal is to save a planet THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY ALIEN DIVERSITY in it's population. While I'm sure we'll get to visit other worlds and potentially save them from the Reapers, so far everything Shepard does int he game is about "Earth's Survival" (Rescuing the Krogan female). That's a big disappointment.
I think when you boil it down, Bioware's treatment (Whether encouraged by EA or not) of Mass Effect 3 shows that their number one priority is to appeal to the more casual gamer that has never played a single Mass Effect game rather than taking the steps to ensure that everything that goes on in ME3 feels like it belongs with the previous games. And like a lot of movies, games, and TV shows that just want to appeal to the ignorant masses, it doesn't offer any cadence or pace to set up what's at stake, but instead resorts to throwing you into the action offering only moments of pathos like that kid in the opening. Even Earth, the planet that every trailer, tagline and article talks about saving doesn't really seem that important. For instance, how many aliens did you see on Earth? Compare that with how many aliens there are on the Citadel, Omega, Noveria, Illium, and even Tuchanka. All of those worlds have different species of aliens that are not indigenous their, and for the final installment of this galaxy scale game, we'our goal is to save a planet THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY ALIEN DIVERSITY in it's population. While I'm sure we'll get to visit other worlds and potentially save them from the Reapers, so far everything Shepard does int he game is about "Earth's Survival" (Rescuing the Krogan female). That's a big disappointment.
0.oSomebloke said:
You sir, just blew my mind. That is now fact in my Mass Effect Universe, and I am no longer bothered by Ilos vs. the current picture of the Protheans. In fact, I love it.
And yeah, Bioware probably could have used an extra six months. I'd be okay with a six month longer wait for ME 3 to have had that.
Third: Yeah, Collectors are extremely advanced Husks as opposed to the rush jobs we've seen so far with most [human]Husks.
Because they don't seem to have an interesting enemy like Saren so they're going for the old standby of Earth being in trouble. Because we all live on Earth so therefore we're all kind of invested in it.Jeyl said:
They did the same with the whole humans disappearing thing in ME2. Because we're also human and therefore should be invested in saving them, I guess.
Well it looks like they cut some stuff out, but since Husks are generally Melee based combatants it makes sense that after opening fire on them for a while the Husks got close and shit got real.vrbtny said:
OT: Very cool trailer, was nice to see the mako, and it wasn't jumping and bumping all over the fucking place so that's a good sign.
They've hinted pretty heavily at the reapers just being pissed off. Think about it, Shepard has thwarted their plans SEVERAL times, which is more then whole SPECIES have been able to do in the past. So if you have a human continuously messing up you tried and true plans it would make a lot of sense to attack his/her home planet and get rid this possibly dangerous species before they become more problematic.wsmieszek said:
Don't forget that the Reapers are arrogant, they believe they are the perfect state of existence, that every other sentient being is dust compared to them, that nothing compares to them.Saviordd1 said:
As such, Shepard's defeat of Sovereign, but also her/his constant thwarting of their plans is general is a great blow at their pride. The are completely and utterly convinced that they are undefeatable, and they CANNOT acknowledge Shepard's victories, or else their view of the world would shatter. (Sovereigns speech, and Harbinger's in 'Arrival' clearly shows this, they cannot acknowledge a defeat or even the possibility of it)
As such I'm sure they're attacking earth first as a blow in, as you say, anger, they're trying to cover up their previous defeats, mostly to themselves and their fragile egos.
(SPOILER)
They're also not idiots, they do, in a way, acknowledge their greatest threat, and the greatest potential for a new Reaper considering the final events of Mass effect 2.
As such it would not surprise me if they stayed on earth for quite a while, it takes time to bring in the 'crops' alive, after all.
Not that they are just in a perfect state of existence, Sovereign was talking like they believe they were literal gods, having existed since the beginning of time.Setrus said:Don't forget that the Reapers are arrogant, they believe they are the perfect state of existence, that every other sentient being is dust compared to them, that nothing compares to them.
As such, Shepard's defeat of Sovereign, but also her/his constant thwarting of their plans is general is a great blow at their pride. The are completely and utterly convinced that they are undefeatable, and they CANNOT acknowledge Shepard's victories, or else their view of the world would shatter. (Sovereigns speech, and Harbinger's in 'Arrival' clearly shows this, they cannot acknowledge a defeat or even the possibility of it)
As such I'm sure they're attacking earth first as a blow in, as you say, anger, they're trying to cover up their previous defeats, mostly to themselves and their fragile egos.
(SPOILER)
They're also not idiots, they do, in a way, acknowledge their greatest threat, and the greatest potential for a new Reaper considering the final events of Mass effect 2.
As such it would not surprise me if they stayed on earth for quite a while, it takes time to bring in the 'crops' alive, after all.
"There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I am Sovereign."
"We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, we will endure."
Oh and this from a man being indoctrinated.
?Chandana said the ship was dead. We trusted him. He was right. But even a dead god can dream. A god ? a real god ? is a verb. Not some old man with magic powers. It's a force. It warps reality just by being there. It doesn't have to want to. It doesn't have to think about it. It just does. That's what Chandana didn't get. Not until it was too late. The god's mind is gone but it still dreams. He knows now. He's tuned in on our dreams. If I close my eyes I can feel him. I can feel every one of us.?
"We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, we will endure."
Oh and this from a man being indoctrinated.
?Chandana said the ship was dead. We trusted him. He was right. But even a dead god can dream. A god ? a real god ? is a verb. Not some old man with magic powers. It's a force. It warps reality just by being there. It doesn't have to want to. It doesn't have to think about it. It just does. That's what Chandana didn't get. Not until it was too late. The god's mind is gone but it still dreams. He knows now. He's tuned in on our dreams. If I close my eyes I can feel him. I can feel every one of us.?
It isn't just that Humans are their greatest threat, but also they're the species the others like the least. Everyone would come to the defense of the Asari, but those dirty humans have this coming to them. I wouldn't be surprised if there was even a plot point that have Reaper 'ambassadors' sent to the other species telling them to stay out of it, and that they're only here for revenge on the humans because of Shepards actions.
Ohhh...I forgot about the God-part, yes, that's partly what I was talking about. What does gods do when mortals strive to reach them or defy them? The tower of Babylonia, anyone?Ukomba said:
Or that what's-his-name who gave man fire and was punished by it by being lashed to a stone to be picked at by birds all day long...gods are jerks.As to the humans being the species liked least...I have trouble seeing the Reapers actually strategizing like that, because that would be acknowledging that the galaxy is a threat...then again maybe I'm putting too much stock into that versus their intelligence, plus it would be very cool to see them trying to undermine Shepard via diplomacy...
They released a new version of this trailer, with about 90 more seconds of footage.
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Personally, I thought it was a great improvement over the previous one (just seems to have a bit less jarring of cuts).
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Personally, I thought it was a great improvement over the previous one (just seems to have a bit less jarring of cuts).