The first thing I noticed were the new Mandalorian Models. Couldn`t care for the rest of the video.
Trailers: Star Wars: The Old Republic: Sith Warrior Progression
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I never played Guild Wars, so I can't compare, but technically, the passage of time has nothing to do with quality of animation. Either your animators do well or they don't. For example, Toy Story 3's animation isn't necessarily better than Beauty and the Beast simply because it came out 19 years later. The rest of the graphics do update at steady rates, but the animation techniques (in terms of the 12 principles) don't change much through the decades.Guy Jackson said:I haven't played an MMO since Guild Wars in 2005 so I don't know what the current standard is, but if what you say is true then MMO animations haven't improved at all in the last 6 years! I guess in MMO land, quantity (of content) still rules over quality.
Point is, I look at these animations and they're on par with WoW or the more recent Rift, if not better. As I mentioned, there is a little weirdness when animations have to interact, like saber clashes and blocking blaster bolts, but that's because of the kind of calculations that go into syncing up those animation clips. They can't always ease in perfectly and coming out of a run, into a slash, followed by dynamically blocking blaster bolts won't look perfect regardless of the quality of each clip or cycle. Anytime animations have to be dynamically queued up there's going to be some oddness, but overall the quality is good despite those minor hiccups.
Animations in games have improved considerably over the decades. Besides, the above statement seems to be rather at odds with your position that the animations are good "for an MMO". If animations are simply "good or not" then why does it matter that it's an MMO?rsvp42 said:
Speaking for myself, it wasn't the interactions that bothered me (though they too were bad). For me, each individual animation looked low-quality and the transitions between animations were really bad (actually such transitions were mostly non-existent, with RETURN ENTIRE BODY TO DEFAULT STANCE usually separating one animation from the next).
In any case, we're butting heads for no good reason. I thought "fucking awful" was a very accurate description of the quality of these animations. If you disagree, good for you! Enjoy the game with my best wishes.
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WAnna bet how many bad reviews the game will get on metacritic the day before it is released?
Technology has improved considerably, but the ability to portray fluid animation hasn't changed much between 2005 (Guild Wars) and now. I'm not giving game animators a free pass, I'm simply comparing TOR's animations to other current MMOs and in that respect, they're on par.Guy Jackson said:
Ah. Well then I won't take up any more space in your inbox... except for this. I just saw "fucking awful" and it struck me as excessively negative, even disregarding my own fondness for the game.Guy Jackson said:
Yes, if only someone could make a critically-acclaimed Star Wars RPG that would sell considerably well, spawn a sequel, and then a subsequent MMO.jawakiller said:
Also, there are 2 end-game armour types in that video, there are hundreds of variations. And the warrior is designed around the Vader archetype anyway, you can play one more like Sidious (and dress them as such) too.
But it still looks really lame. You saw the fight animations, its just a typical RPG with a Star Wars skin.Woodsey said:
Personally, I dislike MMOs(like WoW)and the fighting in KotOR definitely looks like the same dry concept used in popular MMORPGs. So I guess I have no say in the matter.
this game is going to be terrible... rocks on a spaceship:\ combat looks boring. they could have had hell awesome lightsaber duels and stuff but this just looks like another WoW clone.
You gotta get with the times, brick shithouse space marine is the standard nowPalademon said:
OT: Well the animations are just horrid, but this is an MMO so the horridness is standard aswell.
Why can the troopers never hit any thing ? They must have amazingly low standards in the empire.
Yeah I mean just look at how darth maul completely beat qui-gon. Decades more experience lost out to the sith style of physical force mixed with aggression. If Darth maul was a skinny runt or fat then it would've been a different story. Plus darth vader gets rubbish in his suit cos he has no body. Anyway yes they're encouraged to be at peak physical fitness, with Sith emphasising muscle gain as well.cefm said:
Just to be clear, KotOR = RPG, this is TOR (MMORPG).jawakiller said:
Anyway, the animations are pretty good considering they're likely not finished - and if you look at things like the weapons actually connecting, its pretty good in a number of places.
Its an MMO, its never going to be the very best looking, or the very best animated. That everyone's judging such a massive game by a 2 minute video - and announcing its not for them because of the graphics and animations - is a little bizarre. And bear in mind that when you're actually playing the game, your focus isn't solely on the animations, so you don't see all the little connectors. I remember seeing an Assassin's Creed trailer where the animations looked pretty dire because all you're watching are the character's legs and every little marker they've got to meet in the animation. When you're playing it you don't notice.
There are two Sith Classes. This is the Sith Warrior, based on Darth Vader. You can also be a Sith Inquisitor, who can advance to Sith Assassin (your Darth Maul type) or Sith Sorcerer (your Darth Sideous type).jawakiller said:
Please tell me this is sorta Alpha footage...
The character models look.....stiff...and robotic
The companion girl looked like she was high on something...
And once again a simple robe does not suffice and the t1 + t2 progression looks massively stupid and similar to something from Mass Effect....
Did I mention stiff....
like the Viagra Tour of the Redwood Forest...
The character models look.....stiff...and robotic
The companion girl looked like she was high on something...
And once again a simple robe does not suffice and the t1 + t2 progression looks massively stupid and similar to something from Mass Effect....
Did I mention stiff....
like the Viagra Tour of the Redwood Forest...
You know this game is just gonna suck, just like everything else star wars-related these days. Now I might sound overly negative, but I've seen enough commercialized shit spitten out, all in the name of star wars. This franchise needs to die, it's nothing but kiddie stuff and millions of lightsabers everywhere to please the ADHD-kids.
Oh, and the footage itself looked like sloppy shit. To complain further, I hate how the force has become so standardized. If you're a Sith; you use a red lightsaber, shoot lightning and choke people to death.
Truly the force is wrong with this one.
Oh, and the footage itself looked like sloppy shit. To complain further, I hate how the force has become so standardized. If you're a Sith; you use a red lightsaber, shoot lightning and choke people to death.
Truly the force is wrong with this one.
