well, if she would have put some effort into her other works, maybe she wouldn't be so tired of htem because she'd be proud of her work...
Oh, it's a little too late for that. The question is, is she good enough to escape it? Even harder, is she THAT good that she won't care because her work is obviously phenomenal?Tom Goldman said:She doesn't want to be typecast
She then kills all that by making them sparkle, vampires don't need to be hurt by the sun but there is one key aspect of the mythos in all iterations they are creatures of the night and they detest the sun (especially aparent if they aren't vulnerable to it). Vampire mythos may be wide and varied, but this doesn't even come close. Never mind her attempting and failing miserably to justify the sparkles with science, which is my major bugbear with the series. I'm not going to go into detail but by trying (and failing) to apply science to one aspect of a supernatural creature you have to apply it to the rest of the aspects which becomes even more screwy. btw didn't intend to rant just kinda happenedI am Jack said:Okay... let's not get ahead of ourselves.
A while back i tried to make it through the first book. everybody had told me it was a complete trashing of the vampire mythos (and it tottaly was). I got about 60 pages into that gorram thing and i could already feel my brain rotting
first off.
Seduction has ALWAYS been a part of Vampire lore. this is why vampires are so closly tied to sex .Most of the darker vampire stuff involves a vampire charming a girl taking her home and getting busy before sucking her blood and killing(or turing her)
So vampires being charming, ladys men was around way before Myers vommited all over it
and
reworking mythos is what keeps It so intresting. Vampires have been reworked in alot of ways(probably more then any other Mythological crature)
Let's Say you are putting a vampire in the book you are writting
is your vampire undead, or still alive. does he turn to into one bat, or alot of bats, or no bats at all. does he slowly die slowly in the sun, or does he burn up instantly. hell some even just simply become weaker in the son.
Why do they suck blood. do they have some sort of anemic condition where they lack iron, or are they actually just sucking the "life force"
I could go on and on
want me to run through the checklist of things that may or may not kill/harm your vampire(if anything).
I guess my point is we can't hate on her for trying to change vampires. all though myers was a dead shitty end. could you imagine how bored we would all be of vampires if they were still like dracula.
Now onto what we can hate. her boring ploting, her boring, flat, static characters. Her terrible detailing... Etc. I hate these books just as much as any of you. this book especially has made other lonely female authors start rushing out more of the same. I really wish they were not in exsitence
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODonnyp said:uh....I hate to be the barer of Horrible news. But in the Indigo here i saw a alien Book By her.....FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! lol.Angry Caterpillar said:Okay, they've ruined vampires. On to space marines!
OT: YAY! Maybe she will be hit by a car as well. Anyone who watches or made twilight HAS to have a lot of bad Karma.
I'm sorry, I became confused somewhere along the way. Are we arguing of the ability of an author to exercise freedom within their own writing? I don't remember ever saying that is unacceptable... My initial post only showed by frustration and contempt for the author for using the prestige of vampires and werewolves to craft a story about pent up sexual angst in teenagers, which I did and do not deem illegal, but merely loathsome.Tom Phoenix said:Would changing everything we know about giraffes and still call them giraffes make sense? No. But that doesn't preclude the author from doing so, if he/she so chooses. Likewise, just beacuse there is a long-standing tradition as to how vampires are depicted, it doesn't mean that the author is under obligation to follow it. Meyer isn't the first author to try and redefine a fictional race in her own work in spite of tradition and she certainly is far from being good at it compared to others.
I am not saying you have to like how vampires are depicted in Twilight, I certainly don't like it. But Meyer has the right to depict fictional creatures in her universes how she wants them and call them how she wants them. Outside of not reading, buying or associating ourselves with her work, there is very little you or I can do about it.