Two LulzSec Members Plead Guilty To DDOS Attacks

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The Funslinger

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Blablahb said:
Fappy said:
For every bad ass agent there are probably five idiots who ruin everyone's fun :(
Some get paid to surf for bdsm porn fulltime though. I mean, how much more awesome do jobs get?
I'm pretty sure that's subjective based on one's preferences...

Twilight_guy said:
Hum, wonder why they pleaded guilty? Do they feel responsible? Is there a deal going on with the police? Are they arrogant as all hell? I'll probably never know.
It's likely they were in hearings/trials etc. And the possibility of enough evidence to pin it on them was high enough their lawyer recommended they plead guilty. Pleading innocence and then being found guilty results in harsher sentencing.

They didn't go up to the court houses and yell "hey, bitches look what we did!"
 

Quakester

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I really hope they get the book thrown at them. It's bad enough that they were doing this out of boredom but they dared authorities to arrest them. Wish granted, you got busted. Welcome to serious prison time. I hope by the time they get out their hacking skills won't let them hack a pocket calculator.
 

SonOfVoorhees

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So funny. Glad they got caught. What they dont realise is that once the police find them they just watch and wait and collect evidence and watch them dig there own graves. Just because they dont arrest you within 2 days of you committing your ddos attack, doesnt mean they dont know who you are and your ego is what allows the police to gain the evidence needed to put you away. What idiots.....kids trying to play in the adults sandbox.
 

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DDOS attacks were the least of what they did. What about stealing and releasing people's information?
 

Pickapok

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Am I the only one offended by the "Asperger's syndrome sufferer" comment?

I see a lot of people saying it was unnecessary (and I agree), but as far as I have seen most of us "aspies" manage to get along just fine once we've escaped that hell called Middle School. We're quite comfortable with our condition and not "suffering" at all, thank you very much.
 

bdcjacko

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good for them. Are they going white collar resort prison or federal pound me in the ass prison?
 

Scrustle

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Fucking dicks. Hope they get everything that's coming to them. Who do they think they are taunting the police to arrest them? What did they think would happen? They thought they were immune from the law? Idiots.
 

Scarim Coral

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I can't help to laugh at the irony to that tweet, not so tough now that they found and arrested you eh?
 

Callate

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If they had restrained themselves to Sony, Twentieth Century Fox, et. al., they might have had a better chance of getting away with it. Likewise if they had known when to stop. Unfortunately, their "hacktivism" quickly began to resemble a group of small boys with a grocery bag full of illegal fireworks.
 

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Esotera said:

If they had actually had a point behind what they were doing, then I'd feel slightly sympathetic, but they were just bored kids who decided to be massive douchebags. If they had legitimately cared about the security of the targetted sites they would have not DDOSed, and they wouldn't have made public leaks of confidential information. Their case is about the only time when I've wanted someone to get a long sentence for hacking.
There's an xkcd comic for every occasion...

I personally think it's not a big deal (in line with the third panel), the biggest inconvenience for users was a password reset. For the businesses ... honestly I don't care for them, they are fine. I hope they don't get harsh sentences. It's not like they actually hurt someone.
 

deathninja

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And his legal team pull the ASD card. Again.

Seriously, it does nothing to mitigate sentencing, and makes it harder for the rest of us to get a job in *any* field if we have to disclose at interview.
 

viranimus

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I find it incredibly interesting that laws exist that protect corporate ineptitude as well as corporate greed but we can take a year to focus on punishing those evil evil hackers that are manipulating everyone out of their money, demanding digital distribution as a means to undermine economic stability and then subject personal information obtained through that campaign to easy unsolicited access.... oh wait, thats not right.
 

sleeky01

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Pickapok said:
Am I the only one offended by the "Asperger's syndrome sufferer" comment?

I see a lot of people saying it was unnecessary (and I agree), but as far as I have seen most of us "aspies" manage to get along just fine once we've escaped that hell called Middle School. We're quite comfortable with our condition and not "suffering" at all, thank you very much.
I would tend to agree. But there is still a cultural bias. One that has been put on display in The Big Bang Theory:

 

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GiglameshSoulEater said:
Well, at least America haven't actually nicked these (like that innocent guy a while back), and let us handle them.
Lethos said:
Why do all the hackers I read about end up being British? Does this country have some sort of hacker-child training programme or what?
Well, I have seen a university course for 'ethical' hacking. No joke.
Its true I'm currently doing it for my degree. Hacking is a less awesome than the films make it out to be, still fun and you learn groovy things about computers but its not like the movies at all.
 

viranimus

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Buretsu said:
viranimus said:
I find it incredibly interesting that laws exist that protect corporate ineptitude as well as corporate greed but we can take a year to focus on punishing those evil evil hackers that are manipulating everyone out of their money, demanding digital distribution as a means to undermine economic stability and then subject personal information obtained through that campaign to easy unsolicited access.... oh wait, thats not right.
I find it incredibly interesting that people feel that criminals should get a free pass because 'fuck big corporations'.
And exactly what "crime" was committed? Overloading a server with trivial data requests? I wasnt aware that was exactly made a crime. Walking thru a backdoor left wide open that just happened to hold data stores of personal information? Again if the door had been properly locked and secured, yes, but honestly these guys hacking skill is actually not as impressive as the results suggest.

And honestly Im sorry you disagree, but any corporation that chose to try to railroad, screw over and ruin the life of an individual in the name of protecting corporate profits despite there being legal precedent that made that action perfectly legal, and then challenged people to screw with them, had no reason to expect any other response and should not be protected for not anticipating the very expected response.

These kids may or may not have broken "laws"(because in many cases the charges are improper modified stop gap charges for laws that do not exist) but these are not the "criminals" that need looking for.
 

Li Mu

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I don't understand why the US government seem desperate to have EVERY man (and his dog) who hacked an email account extradited to the US to face their court system.
Lets face it, if the US gov' are going to all the effort and expense of extraditing someone, it's pretty unlikely that they're going to let that person walk out as a free man and thus it's unlikely that this person will face a fair trial.

So why do they want to extradite everyone? Do they fear that the hacker wont be punished enough? Do they fear the UK courts are corrupt?
I'd like to think that a country with a legal system which has been around longer than the USA has even existed and has worked fairly well and with negligible corruption can process it's own criminals successfully.

So the US gov' want to extradite these guys to face charges in the US. The US tax payer has to pay for this. They then have to pay for the incarceration of these British citizens.
Why would the American people want to pay millions of dollars for something that will be done just as well in another country?
 

Li Mu

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viranimus said:
And exactly what "crime" was committed? Overloading a server with trivial data requests? I wasnt aware that was exactly made a crime.
This has been a crime for a long time, whether you were aware of it or not.

Walking thru a backdoor left wide open that just happened to hold data stores of personal information? Again if the door had been properly locked and secured, yes, but honestly these guys hacking skill is actually not as impressive as the results suggest.
So if you forgot to lock your door and some guy came in and stole everything you owned and then raped your dog, you wouldn't have an issue with it? Would you say, "ahh, I didn't lock my door properly, so my stuff is fair game. Oh well, no problem, it's not a crime"?



These kids may or may not have broken "laws"
Nope, they definitely did break laws. Even if you don't agree with the law, it's still a law.


I would say that this whole thing is blown out of proportion and expect the US gov' to be shipping these guys to Guantanamo Bay for some friendly torture as soon as they can. But at the end of the day, they did break the law and they knew it.
 

aksel

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I'm fairly certain someone has already posted the xkcd comic already, but whatever.

Achheem....

OH NO! NOOOOT FREAKING DDOS ATTACKS! :O
WHYYYY WON'T ANYONE PLEEEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!(.jpg)

LOCK UP YOUR FUCKING DAUGHTERS, 'CUS SCRIPT KIDDIES ARE COMING TO TOWN!
/capslock

DDOS attacks are harmmellesses, man.
 

DugMachine

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I feel kind of bad for these guys. Yeah they broke the law but two computer nerds wouldn't last a day in prison without getting... well y'know.

How long would they serve for this?