Little movements like these almost make me blush for women everywhere. Isn't this patronizing in the most humiliating way?
U.K. Group Calls For Female Doctor Who
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Im still trying to grasp how a TV Show character could possibly be a role model, Let alone a scientific role model at that?
I was under the impression that role models had to be real, and actually represent what your working towards, not just an actor pretending to be what you desire.
Keep the show the way it is, it isn't going to inspire little girls (because it hasn't done wonders for boys either) to become scientists because at this time there aren't many (in proportion) female viewers of this genera, so the change would have to be fairly radical in order to attract a substantial set of viewers. Making this change would efficiently ruin the series, or alienate the original viewers.
No, put you political correctness where it matters (in job markets and schools), and keep it out of the entertainment industries.
I was under the impression that role models had to be real, and actually represent what your working towards, not just an actor pretending to be what you desire.
Keep the show the way it is, it isn't going to inspire little girls (because it hasn't done wonders for boys either) to become scientists because at this time there aren't many (in proportion) female viewers of this genera, so the change would have to be fairly radical in order to attract a substantial set of viewers. Making this change would efficiently ruin the series, or alienate the original viewers.
No, put you political correctness where it matters (in job markets and schools), and keep it out of the entertainment industries.
What's this Doctor Who thing anyway? Some SciFi-series thing? I've gathered it's pretty long in the running - must get hard to come up with new stuff after so many years, it's only natural for the writers to try and mix it up a bit...
Well, what I said... It's only natural for the people involved to want to try new things.The_root_of_all_evil said:It's that series that's been around longer than Star Trekanti_strunt said:
Consider, if the series is around for [infinity], I think it's safe to say they would eventually have a female Doctor just for kicks - why not try it now? It seems they shift the main character around every few years, so it wouldn't be the end of the world. If it doesn't work, just make him a guy again next time... No biggie, right?
A female Time Lord? Yes.anti_strunt said:Well, what I said... It's only natural for the people involved to want to try new things.The_root_of_all_evil said:It's that series that's been around longer than Star Trekanti_strunt said:
Consider, if the series is around for [infinity], I think it's safe to say they would eventually have a female Doctor just for kicks - why not try it now? It seems they shift the main character around every few years, so it wouldn't be the end of the world. If it doesn't work, just make him a guy again next time... No biggie, right?
The Doctor as a female? No.
I don't get the hostility. It's not anti-canon, and the Gallifreyans can switch form?thebobmaster said:
It's not like it should be done BECAUSE. It's just a nice idea.
As long as it's a proper actress. Kathy Burke/Jennifer Saunders/Anna Friel? Fine.
Lily Allen or others can jump in the Eye of Rassilon.
I guess that's the problem. If it is done, I just want it to be done because the best person they could find happened to be female, not because they were commanded to make The Doctor a female this time.The_root_of_all_evil said:
I don't understand why gender-switching would make past relationships awkward. There's no reason the Doctor has to be straight - for all we know, Time Lords/Gallifreyans have no concept of "gay" and "straight" - and if they do, it's entirely possible it changes from regeneration to regeneration without any social stigma.
I don't follow the expanded universe and haven't watched the original show, so I don't know if that has been covered, but like I said, bisexuality isn't awkward and nor would be transsexuality. In the days of the original show there'd have been "demonstrations" and the like but today there's no need to edge around it. We've had an omnisexual "companion" (Jack) who worked out so well he got his own show, so a female Doctor shouldn't be a problem on that score.
That being said, I'm still against it. As kick-ass as women can be (thank you, Hollywood and every video game ever made), a female Doctor would just be... different. I'm not going to try to define or defend that statement because I can't, other than letting it stand as an argument in and of itself. A female Doctor would change the show - it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, but the show would no longer be the same. It'd be far more than just handing over to a new male actor.
I don't follow the expanded universe and haven't watched the original show, so I don't know if that has been covered, but like I said, bisexuality isn't awkward and nor would be transsexuality. In the days of the original show there'd have been "demonstrations" and the like but today there's no need to edge around it. We've had an omnisexual "companion" (Jack) who worked out so well he got his own show, so a female Doctor shouldn't be a problem on that score.
That being said, I'm still against it. As kick-ass as women can be (thank you, Hollywood and every video game ever made), a female Doctor would just be... different. I'm not going to try to define or defend that statement because I can't, other than letting it stand as an argument in and of itself. A female Doctor would change the show - it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, but the show would no longer be the same. It'd be far more than just handing over to a new male actor.
I'm not against the idea of a female Time Lord character, but the character of The Doctor is a man.
I think the writers should do what they think best with The Doctor. This is just one group of fans mouthing off about what they want to see. They will probably be listened to/ignored like every other group of mouthy fans (including us) who think they know what is best for the series. If I were writing the plot I probably would find it more difficult if the doctor was percieved as female, but then again I am not a very good writer.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I say no.
The Doctor is a male Time Lord and that would just screw everything up. I mean, Rose Tyler did as much as the Doctor in all of their adventures. Plus, I think the Doctor only has two more regenerations left and they better not screw up with any of them.
I'm not sexist or anything I just don't think they need to bow to peer pressure and change an established character to that degree.
In addition, wouldn't he/she retain all of the memories of past adventures? That would be awkward to explain to people.
The Doctor is a male Time Lord and that would just screw everything up. I mean, Rose Tyler did as much as the Doctor in all of their adventures. Plus, I think the Doctor only has two more regenerations left and they better not screw up with any of them.
I'm not sexist or anything I just don't think they need to bow to peer pressure and change an established character to that degree.
In addition, wouldn't he/she retain all of the memories of past adventures? That would be awkward to explain to people.
I don't know much about the background, but it appears rather silly that a race that can travel through time would still be held down by petty biological divisions such as gender.
Though I suppose that might be 60ies SciFi for you...
Though I suppose that might be 60ies SciFi for you...
She should also be Mixed race between Black and Chinese, be wheelchair bound, have downs syndrome and also be a pygmy.
The part should go to whoever best plays the role. The part should go to a woman if shes doing it right, but it shouldn't go to a female by default just to give girls a reason to do science, that's called sexism
The part should go to whoever best plays the role. The part should go to a woman if shes doing it right, but it shouldn't go to a female by default just to give girls a reason to do science, that's called sexism
Yep, Christopher Eccleston was good and Tennant to me IS the Doctor.curlycrouton said:
Thing is, cant really see a female Doctor. I mean this may be a rather "1950's - dear, is the dinner ready" kinda way to look at it, but whats wrong with having a female assistant. Most of the time it is written so that they are as capable as the Doctor himself anyway.
Although saying all of that, i was a bit opposed to Catherine Tate when it was said she might be starting. But, as usual, i was wrong and she ended being awesome in the role.
BTW...Arabella Weir (Does my bum look big in this?) played the Female Doctor in 2003's Big Finish Audio Adventure. http://www.bigfinish.com/6-Doctor-Who-Unbound-Exile
woo bring back Tom Baker lol. But seriously a female Dr might be interesting and hell if it does bomb they can just kill her off and bring a new Dr who in lol.