U.S. Government Proposes "Internet Kill Switch"

Gamegodtre

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Beryl77 said:
Guess someone watched Die Hard 4.0 a bit too much.
But seriously , I'm sure they wouldn't use it at every occasion but I still think it's too much power for one country. It surely would affect other countries too but I don't how much that would be.
Can you even hack a computer though the internet?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0brmtm0LxgE

The future of the internet via the most unlikely hero Glenn Beck
 

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I guess America wants to be Big Brother. Not just to Americans too...
Personaly, since the internet is so big, and used litteraly everyday, there's gonna be backlash from pretty much everyone.
Not to mention the backlash and issues this'd cause more then "protecting our national secuirty" or whatever.

Personaly, I think most people have made a worse "9/11 crysis" themselves with the economy. >_>
 

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Woah okay call me crazy but wouldn't it make MORE FUCKING SENSE to have a shut off for HIGH RISK parts of the internet? Like the mentioned banks and government stuff instead of shutting off of internet based businesses because a goverement server is under attack?

Lots of fucking sense you morons, cost people money who often can't afford it because of an attack. That's the worst idea since Bush's router backdoor idea (if you don't know he wanted a backdoor into everyones router that could be accessed by the government easily, in otherwords a hackers field day.)
 

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Gamegodtre said:
zehydra said:
This is insane. Doing something like this is totally unconstitutional.
not if it is the whole world only if its just the US then it is unconstitutional
No, even if Obama is given the power to pull the plug on the whole world's internet, it would still be unconstitutional in the U.S. If Obama is granted the power to do something that the constitution does not say he has, then it is unconstitutional.
 

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First off its impossible to turn off the internet as every computer in the world has part of it stored in it so to "kill" the internet he'd have to destroy evey computer ever connected to the internet.

Plus in todays world he'd be screwing with virtualy every country in the world resulting in probably sevral wars.And not to metion its EXREMLY unconstinal
1. No it's not. Just switch off the DNS servers and hub server stations. Sorted.

2. Not every country. The internet does exist outside of American, you know.

3. Why would that lead to several wars?

4. So? Like that's ever stopped anyone.

Shru1kan said:
Because Americans don't reserve the right to remove the government if it is not working for their benefit?
You know, when we were founded, they gave us guns and said "if we fuck up, just take us out". I feel the need to disband the current government, honestly.
I thought they gave you guns to help kick the British out, and make exploring less dangerous, not slaughter them en mass. You remove a government by voting them out, not killing them.

If it comes to a situation where you have to kill them to remove them, then you wouldn't stand a chance anyway.
 

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pineapplewizzard said:
ShaqLevick said:
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Seriously? Your not the kings of the world US.
I couldn't disagree more, they have the largest empire in history, their military is the biggest organization on the globe. They've been altering the political face of the developing world for close to a century. They have a massive stake in world media, banking, and trade. They may not be kings, but rule as if ordained by God. This is just another drop in their grand bucket of civil rights violations.

In short death to the nation of America. Do note I said nation and not people, because I know you're tuning in CIA.
Ummmmm largest empire in history? yes they(their goverment i have nothing against the people) thinck too highly of themselves and see fit to go and mess up everyone elses stuff but maby check your facts, were part of the largest empire in history didnt have it.
Seriously, there are American military bases on every corner of the globe. Unfathomable numbers of troops everywhere. They landed on the bloody moon, and human history dictates finders keepers. If they aren't the biggest empire to ever roam the planet then who could it be?
 

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Just saying:

The entirety of the United States' infrastructure, from transport systems to electricity and water supply is connected to and controllable via remote access throught the internet.

Also, the People's Republic of China is the only country in the world whose army boasts a candid cyber warfare unit, which actively recruits members of the hacking community (who, despite the 7 year jail term if caught brazenly advertise on recruitment websites) thanks to the power of nationalism.

Russia also has set a precedent of internet-based attacks, following that removal of the bronze war memorial in Estonia; as at yet, cyber assaults are not covered by any of the Joint-Security arrangements in the world. DDos attacks and hacking hurt!

I'm not saying that having an emergency shut-off is the answer to this, but there is a definite threat, and it definitely needs a solution. Perhaps if there were more people who actually understood the intertubes in power, then we would have evolved a solution by now. And of course the idea of an "Internet Kill Switch" is retarded.
 

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If this affects the USA? It's their government, let the people revolt.

If this affects everyone? The US government can go fuck themselves. Keep your mitts off what isn't yours.
 

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The government doesn't need a kill switch for the internet. All the government needs to do is get everyone on Charter Communications and the internet will go out periodically on its own.
 

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teh_gunslinger said:
"We cannot afford to wait for a cyber-9/11 before our government realizes the importance of protecting our cyber-resources," said bill co-sponsor Senator Susan Collins.
Oh God! Won't somebody think of the cyber-children!
Fuck them, last time I tried to help they kicked me in the nuts.

OT: I have officially lost faith in my country for the fourteenth time this week.
 

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zehydra said:
Gamegodtre said:
zehydra said:
This is insane. Doing something like this is totally unconstitutional.
not if it is the whole world only if its just the US then it is unconstitutional
No, even if Obama is given the power to pull the plug on the whole world's internet, it would still be unconstitutional in the U.S. If Obama is granted the power to do something that the constitution does not say he has, then it is unconstitutional.
Then they would take it to the supreme court, where the constitution has NOOO place *nudge nudge wink wink*
 

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This is literally the equivalent of destroying every building in the US so that terrorists can't fly any more planes into them.
 

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Much as this may sound protective, it smells of an excuse for more control over ISP's in the US, including more access to accounts. I hope this bill gets destroyed, cremated, mutilated, and detonated. It's worded out of ignorance and stupidity, with an entirely different intention than what it is being hyped for.
GrinningManiac said:
HA! Loving the mocking, Mr. Chalk. Cyber-this and Cyber-that

Mr. Government,
[/i]You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means[/i]

OT: Is this just for the US? Cus I'm questioning why they would have any right to turn off British internet, considering A) They HAVE no right and B) We technically invented it
They don't have the right to cut off British internet, and this would only shut down American ISP's. Which would mean squat for those who are on the net by a ISP operated out of the US.
DSK- said:
I wonder if this gentleman understands that the Internet is not infact a "Series of tubes".

This is probably the most daft thing I have ever heard conceived, besides the building of aircraft carriers out of pykrete (yes, this was considered by none other that Winston Churchill!)

Turning off the Internet? Is this only in the US? or are they talking about the entirety of the Internet? Wouldn't that mean that resources and servers located in the US would not be accessible and hurt possible business interests around the world?

Arrgh too many questions and so much stupidity. At least they are admitting (in a way) that the current security systems of the US aren't unbreakable, as we all know nothing is unbreakable.
Far as I am concerned, if the US Government is worried about internet attacks, then they should be happy with just having a kill switch for government access. Otherwise they got no business playing with my connection or feeling free to look into what I do.
 

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I don't think this is a good idea, but it's not the insanity that everyone claims it to be. I think ISP's should be forced to have kill switches for some sites they provide access to, such as online banking sites and sites holding medical records, could you imagine if somebody found a major vulnerability in a very important internet website? They could wreak havoc, and that's just if it happened today, the internet is growing exponentially, and over time more and more important records and financial information will be making its way online, the idea of a last resort kill switch is not a bad idea, but the idea of a global kill switch is overboard.
 

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I love these crazy ideas American politicians come up with. What's next? Free Speech kill switch, minority kill switch, obey the government or be "kill-switched"?
America just loves taking freedom away from people. Lets see how far they can go before people realize they're being fucked sideways in the skull by the government.