U.S. Government Proposes "Internet Kill Switch"
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We don't want Cyber spies sapping our cyber sentries!
Couldn't we just employ cyber pyros and cyber heavies?
Couldn't we just employ cyber pyros and cyber heavies?
Its not possible. You cant shut down the entire internet. From private buisness servers to self hosted ones its a task that just cant be done. Nor should it. The internet is not an object, its an idea: nearly limitless communication. And what is communication protected by? The first damn ammendment. No way this sh*t will pass, and if it does, it will be voided for being unconstitiutional. Game over.
Also, cyber 9/11? Will all our base belong to them? All our starcraft bases maybe :/
Also, cyber 9/11? Will all our base belong to them? All our starcraft bases maybe :/
The fact that they could regulate the internet and ghost over ANY online communication is far too close to 1984 for me. I don't particularly care if they shut off the internet - that's not going to benefit anyone. But putting into place a virtual Patriot Act on the internet is bad news...Superfly CJ said:
Guys! We're under attack from Cyber Warriors, they're not the kid of guys you mess with!
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I love guys like you. Could you in future make some gesture, such as pointing to your head, or pulling your eyes open when you tell us all to wake up? Then you'll be my favourite person ever.MaVeN1337 said:
*insane anarchistic side of me* I TOLD YOU, I knew exactly this would happen, i warned us all *runs off*
*"sane" part of me just standing there* ...the fuck, he took my keys, and he never fucking said that...but yeah, i dont like it.
*"sane" part of me just standing there* ...the fuck, he took my keys, and he never fucking said that...but yeah, i dont like it.
Personally I think CJ has a point. I just read the article and frankly whenever I read the name Lieberman I rage, however just because i dislike a person doesn't make him wrong, and I do believe that the govt should have fail safes in place for attacks on govt resources.
No Al Gore invented it! Actually Americans invented the idea of linking computers, England made it actually practical, and then Al Gore passed a bill in America to form the internet's shape it is today. This would effect England if they use a internet provider located in America, but this is better than the alternative where in the government felt like they needed to they would just hack and crash them anyways.GrinningManiac said:
This is not really surprising, I mean we all keep hearing about cyber-attacks and such from hackers and other countries *cough*CHINA*cough* so we need some sort of defense. The goverment can already do this if it needs to by just commanding internet providers in the US to shut down as they are companies in their jurisdiction or just by clipping deep sea cables.
Everyone is still thinking of the internet as a free place, but it is quickly becoming more entrapped. For example when the internet is remade to create more IP addresses they will include a locational in the IP, meaning that you could simply track down where the computer is located based on that. So in other words no more "anonymous" internet.
Ctrl+F "cyber-"
17 results found. That's cyber-ridiculous.
Edit: To contribute, this article has a point. Sure, it may seem all sci-fi dangerous now, but what if something did happen? Every important feature of my life (work statistics, college scores, bank account, legal information) is backed up on the internet. Sure, there are hard copies, but has anyone here ever seen behind the scenes of most of the places we trust with important information and documents? It's damn scary. I'm pretty sure due to the convenience, it may have (or soon will) come to a point where we rely on the internet. Isn't that scary? That the only thing stopping someone from getting into your stuff is a password? Sure, some things are protected by encryptions formulated by mathematicians who spend their lives calculating new ways to keep things safe, but what if one of them tried something?
Despite all of your paranoid delusions, the government is ultimately looking out for our best interest. Having a fail-safe kill switch in case of an extreme emergency is not a bad idea.
17 results found. That's cyber-ridiculous.
Edit: To contribute, this article has a point. Sure, it may seem all sci-fi dangerous now, but what if something did happen? Every important feature of my life (work statistics, college scores, bank account, legal information) is backed up on the internet. Sure, there are hard copies, but has anyone here ever seen behind the scenes of most of the places we trust with important information and documents? It's damn scary. I'm pretty sure due to the convenience, it may have (or soon will) come to a point where we rely on the internet. Isn't that scary? That the only thing stopping someone from getting into your stuff is a password? Sure, some things are protected by encryptions formulated by mathematicians who spend their lives calculating new ways to keep things safe, but what if one of them tried something?
Despite all of your paranoid delusions, the government is ultimately looking out for our best interest. Having a fail-safe kill switch in case of an extreme emergency is not a bad idea.
Lets face it, the Government are hardly going to monitor each and every single citizen, if even one. Investigation services exist for the sole purpose of chasing existing threads, not plucking ones from out of thin air by monitoring millions of live messenger conversations.RobfromtheGulag said:
At the end of the day, it's unlikely that Obama or any of his delegates are going to sit down for a few hours to perv on Joe Texas' browsing preferences. If you sit down, take a breath and stop listening to all the conspiracy theories, you'll understand that no-one is attempting to breach our rights- merely just trying to get a grasp on the lawless mess that is the Internet.
All the Lieberman bashers need to read the highlighted section. As a Brit, I don't care for the guy one way or the other- i'm viewing him solely on the merit of this proposal, which I believe to be entirely necessary.Valiard said:
Lets face it, the gaming community is selfish, through and through. We always demand the latest games for the cheapest prices, and refuse to buy anything unless it's encrusted with diamonds and served to us on a golden platter. We're all too willing to accept the perks of the job, but we never consider the downsides.
Technology is evolving at an alarming rate- and around about now is the time where we need to realise that this can be a bad thing. We're sending huge amounts of personal data over the internet every day- yet we have no recovery plan in the event of disaster. This is all this bill is- a recovery plan. Should everything go tits up and all that personal data come spilling out, it's good to know that we've got some way to stem the flow.
The reality that they won't and the possibility that they might are two distinct things, and I'm not on-board with the ability to do so.Superfly CJ said:
This lax standpoint of 'it probably won't affect me' doesn't change the fact that freedoms are being continuously 'suspended' and not be returned to the people.
This bill is a power grab. Essential services are not so wired into the internet that they can be totally affected by it. Powerplants can't be run from home! You can't automate, and they DON'T automate every valve in the place just for that very reason. The government has its own new subnet planned, so why do they even need to worry about the internet anymore anyways? Whichever governer came up with this bill either doesn't have a clue as to whats going on around him within his job or out in the real world. Or is looking for a way to control how people communicate.