U.S. Government Proposes "Internet Kill Switch"

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brunt32

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spookydom said:
brunt32 said:
spookydom said:
The internet does not belong to the U.S government. It is not theres to shut down.
I don't think you understand what it's saying, They can't shut down the 'internet' but will shut off all the hosting which is owned within the US.
Also probably shutting down all US Isp, But for all of us Non-US we can still access the internet just not US stuff. Which isnt alot.
Totaly a fair point my freind, but that's not what I was trying to put across, If I may quote from the original article
"To counter those potential cyber-shenanigans, the bill would give a newly-formed National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications the authority to monitor the "security status" of private websites, ISPs and other net-related business within the U.S. as well as critical internet components in other countries."

This would effect everybody in the world imo. As you say this would not leave a lot of infroweb for the rest of us. I don't belive anybody should be comfortable with there government having that kind of power.
Sorry, I didnt understand the point you were putting off at the start but yes I totattly agree with what your saying.

I'm not to sure if 'Google.com' I know it's HQ is based there but i'm not sure of all the details but if all the 'Google' Websites were closed lots of the internet itselfs would be gone.
 

dragontiers

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I could understand the concept of closing off the internet to government buildings/servers, where the "sensitive" information is stored (although if it's that damn sensitive, it shouldn't be in a computer hooked to the internet in the first place), but not the whole of the internet (if that would even be possible at this point). Hell, that's the equivalent of turning off all the phone service in the US any time any terrorist activities happen. It wouldn't prevent anything (after all, if they are already in doing their "cyber terrorism", it's too late), and would just cripple the rest of the country that's not affected by the attack, essentially giving more power to the terrorist, not less. Complete fail.
 

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GrinningManiac said:
HA! Loving the mocking, Mr. Chalk. Cyber-this and Cyber-that

Mr. Government,
[/i]You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means[/i]

OT: Is this just for the US? Cus I'm questioning why they would have any right to turn off British internet, considering A) They HAVE no right and B) We technically invented it
I thought that the US military invented it? please tell me more!
 

Hobo Joe

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That would be the single most retarded thing to ever happen. What about people in other countries anyway?
 

KiruTheMant

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GrinningManiac said:
HA! Loving the mocking, Mr. Chalk. Cyber-this and Cyber-that

Mr. Government,
[/i]You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means[/i]

OT: Is this just for the US? Cus I'm questioning why they would have any right to turn off British internet, considering A) They HAVE no right and B) We technically invented it
My United Technologies professor says that it was a joint project between North America,Britain,and segments of Canada.

Hmmm.
 

TOGSolid

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Mr. Grey said:
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Oh, Lieberman! What zany right-wing paranoid fear-mongering will you bring us next? And, more importantly, what civil liberties crushing solution will you propose?

Gut miranda rights? Check. Deny accused criminals other basic rights? Check. Pave the way for a government seizure of the internet? Check.
I could have sworn Lieberman was an Independent Democrat. So wouldn't he be left wing? Or is that the problem? I haven't paid much attention with politics, they've increasingly made me jaded and depressed.
Lieberman is registered as an Independant Democrat, but that's in name only. His views are VERY much in line with the conservatives and I doubt he's got much of a political career left. The more time goes on, the further right he's swinging.
 

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I was sitting on the fence with this until they mentioned "Cyber 9/11" and they revealed the bill for what it really is.
 

firedfns13

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Wouldn't that be counterproductive? Doesn't the Fed. Government want a way to get information to it's citizens in an emergency? They can't count on TV or Radio anymore because more and more people are like me and don't use either.
 

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GrinningManiac said:
HA! Loving the mocking, Mr. Chalk. Cyber-this and Cyber-that

Mr. Government,
[/i]You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means[/i]

OT: Is this just for the US? Cus I'm questioning why they would have any right to turn off British internet, considering A) They HAVE no right and B) We technically invented it
And we'll pull out of Afghanistan if they do.




Ha, why? Like some super-evil Lex Luger's gonna hack into US goverment computers si bad that a killswitch is pressed?
 

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Lizmichi said:
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Oh my good lord. I can see it now, so we'll lose words in our language and they'll be able to listen to us threw our TVs. If anyone gets what I'm referencing I will be surprised.
1984.

Although this sounds like another knee-jerk reactionary scare story to me.
Yay someone reads. Someone reads a good book too. Yea I hope this is just a farce so I don't have to start making sighs and find some way to DC and protest this. Cause I will.
...and I knew I'd get beaten to it. -,- Okay, but it's time for round two. If 1984 plays on our fear which books dystopia plays on our pleasures?
 

johnman

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I was sitting on the fence with this until they mentioned "Cyber 9/11" and they revealed the bill for what it really is.
 

teqrevisited

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Hmm. How are they planning to implement this exactly? I'm wondering if this is where they got their definition of the internet from:


Edit:Grr. Embedding disabled.
 

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The trouble with all of this is that they can't just shut down the US internet. Yes, the internet was developed in conjunction with the British and several other countries, however, there is still a signifigant amount of hardlines and communications systems that are used to connect what is essentially "the internet" to the general public of the United States. Who owns these hardlines and sattilites? The United States.

An internet kill switch wouldn't be able to shut it down just like that with a virus or something, that just isn't feasible. What would more than likely happen is that when the order is given, all hardlines would be cut, essentially destroying communications with the sattilites. This would immediately cancel out the transmission of data from server to server, and shut down the internet. Would it only affect the US? The answer is a resounding FUCK NO.

Not every country can afford a communications web, so many countries piggyback off off the EU and US systems, thus avoiding the need to make their own. This is a problem, as the vast majority of these countries get that service from the United States, and if this kill switch were to be activated, the US and any other countries that use that comm system will be completely cut off from the rest of the world. Not only that, but a large portion of the internet's data is stored in US servers, which would devestate the internet if shut down. Even countries with their own comm systems would be affected, as many commerce and business sites are located on US servers, and a lot of foreigners and Europeans use US servers for their reliability and space.

Needless to say, that the very existance of this "kill switch" would be bordering on an international war crime. I can't even think about the abhorable disaster that could potentially take place if it were ever activated. Somebody seriously needs to step in and take charge of these incredibly unstable government officials.
 

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TheRightToArmBears said:
Whaaaaaaaaaat?

This is insane. I cannot think of any event that is even remotely feasible that would require the entire internet to be turned off.
I remember that in some post-apocalyptic movie the internet was turned off. Don't remember why though. Maybe they're getting ready?
 

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Now it's time to setup our pirate IP stations. We each create a hacked wireless home moden and attach a massive antenna and a hacked torrent program on it.Whenever someone wants something snippits and bits from the website, people who already loaded the website, and people who are loading the website. They wave of knowledge will rush to them in a wonderful flurry. Don't forget to seed idiots. >.<