U.S. Government Proposes "Internet Kill Switch"

[Danpascooch]

Fuck Liebermen and fuck Obama in short. Isn't this sort of like something Nazis would do, cut off part of the country so that the other part doesn't know that while the Nazis are taking over half the land its planning on doing the other half next.

They didn't cut off or censor anything or claim they would do so, it's a proposal for a last resort security measure.

"Fuck" your liberal use of the "fuck" aimed at Obama who did NOT propose or sign this bill into law. In short "fuck" your ignorance and bigotry, and "fuck" your impolite attacks at a person who is not a party to the action you are complaining about.

 

[ma55ter_fett]

You failed to say that Joe Lieberman is the scummiest senator in congress, and was known to be long before this bill was written.

The guy has switched parties many times and never votes with his current party on big issues.

Liebermaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

Why does is it seem like whenever I hear about some bill or filibuster I don't like, he's there?

Because slime living in the U-bend of a toilet has better morals than him.

 

[DragonsAteMyMarbles]

Cyber-attacks? I don't think the Mondasians have found us yet.
Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[brodie21]

i think this is actually a good idea, because if a world war were to break out, the government will shut off GPS systems and it should be able to shut off the internet. because for every invader there is going to be a legion of hackers trying to fuck up our systems online. and its definitely easier to fuck up their shit for real instead of trying to foil a bajillion hacking attempts

 

[ma55ter_fett]

Fuck Liebermen and fuck Obama in short. Isn't this sort of like something Nazis would do, cut off part of the country so that the other part doesn't know that while the Nazis are taking over half the land its planning on doing the other half next.

They didn't cut off or censor anything or claim they would do so, it's a proposal for a last resort security measure.

"Fuck" your liberal use of the "fuck" aimed at Obama who did NOT propose or sign this bill into law. In short "fuck" your ignorance and bigotry, and "fuck" your impolite attacks at a person who is not a party to the action you are complaining about.

Plus Joe Lieberman isn't even a democrat (technically he is in name only) seeing as he never votes democrat and would rather lick shit off the shoes of the republican senators than vote on anything obama would like passed.

 

[Danpascooch]

I love these crazy ideas American politicians come up with. What's next? Free Speech kill switch, minority kill switch, obey the government or be "kill-switched"?
America just loves taking freedom away from people. Lets see how far they can go before people realize they're being fucked sideways in the skull by the government.

Woah, what is with all of the "America loves taking away freedom" crap, last I checked, America is one of the freest countries in the entire world.

Anyone complaining that this infringes on freedom is an idiot. This is a last resort security measure, and it's not a targeted "anti government themes" kill switch, it is a global internet service kill switch, meaning that if it was ever used without unbelievably overwhelming proof of need, people would go apeshit and the government would be screwed.

The Patriot act is something I have always been strongly opposed to, but I don't see this having a potential for abuse, if used, it would cut off internet access to the greater population, that's not something you can do to steal information or do behind the scenes, if it was done, everyone would know immediately, and demand answers and proof of why it was necessary.

 

[radarbsm]

I could deal with the internet kill switch, because it is so stupid I would like to see it used. This is only if it is the entire US internet. If it was for government operated places I would be fine.

I do not like the fact that they this bill includes the NCCC

(the bill would give a newly-formed National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications the authority to monitor the "security status" of private websites, ISPs and other net-related business within the U.S. as well as critical internet components in other countries. Companies would be required to take part in "information sharing" with the government and certify to the NCCC that they have implemented approved security measures. Furthermore, any company that "relies on" the internet, telephone system or any other part of the U.S. "information infrastructure" would also be "subject to command" by the NCCC under the proposed new law.)

 

[Danny Ocean]

This is literally the equivalent of destroying every building in the US so that terrorists can't fly any more planes into them.

Well no, because he doesn't destroy the computers, just stops the planes flying into them by disconnecting the buildings from the sky.

 

[samsonguy920]

Don't care. not in USA. lols.

You should care, since if this passes it will be encouraged to all of the US's allies to follow suit. And when the word terrorism is being bandied about, the UK has been having a reputation for following suit.

The government doesn't need a kill switch for the internet. All the government needs to do is get everyone on Charter Communications and the internet will go out periodically on its own.

Or Comcast which handicaps their service to the point of being pointless for anyone to use it.

This is also going to be only more tax dollars wasted on something that will get found unconstitutional or even infeasible to implement(but will be continued anyway in that case, like many other pork projects) in the effort to protect americans from terrorism.

 

[Danpascooch]

Fuck Liebermen and fuck Obama in short. Isn't this sort of like something Nazis would do, cut off part of the country so that the other part doesn't know that while the Nazis are taking over half the land its planning on doing the other half next.

They didn't cut off or censor anything or claim they would do so, it's a proposal for a last resort security measure.

"Fuck" your liberal use of the "fuck" aimed at Obama who did NOT propose or sign this bill into law. In short "fuck" your ignorance and bigotry, and "fuck" your impolite attacks at a person who is not a party to the action you are complaining about.

Plus Joe Lieberman isn't even a democrat (technically he is in name only) seeing as he never votes democrat and would rather lick shit off the shoes of the republican senators than vote on anything obama would like passed.

I know, if people are going to shit all over America, they should at least get their damn facts straight first, I like how everyone thinks the president is responsible for everything, he has absolutely no say over what bills are proposed, why? BECAUSE OF THE FREEDOMS YOU PEOPLE CLAIM ARE BEING INFRINGED BY THE PROPOSAL OF THIS BILL.

If anything, the fact that someone is allowed to propose a bill this absurd is simply more evidence of the abundant freedoms Americans enjoy.

Next it'll be "Dog shits in man's yard, man exclaims "FUCK OBAMA!!!""

 

[ShaqLevick]

Fuck Liebermen and fuck Obama in short. Isn't this sort of like something Nazis would do, cut off part of the country so that the other part doesn't know that while the Nazis are taking over half the land its planning on doing the other half next.

Yes this is exactly something a bunch of fascists would do, but don't be throwing insults around at my buddy Obama. He doesn't call the shots, much like Hitler he's just a center piece where all the money men and play makers can hide behind. No I'm not a conspiracy theorist wingnut, but I do know fascism when I see it and Americas two party one brained system shows little faith in the intellect of their people.

 

[samsonguy920]

I could deal with the internet kill switch, because it is so stupid I would like to see it used. This is only if it is the entire US internet. If it was for government operated places I would be fine.

I do not like the fact that they this bill includes the NCCC

(the bill would give a newly-formed National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications the authority to monitor the "security status" of private websites, ISPs and other net-related business within the U.S. as well as critical internet components in other countries. Companies would be required to take part in "information sharing" with the government and certify to the NCCC that they have implemented approved security measures. Furthermore, any company that "relies on" the internet, telephone system or any other part of the U.S. "information infrastructure" would also be "subject to command" by the NCCC under the proposed new law.)

I agree with you there, as far as the NCCC. The US has yet to actually implement a cybercrime department that is worth anything, but it being implemented in this way smells like last year's bacon sandwich. Which makes sense since Lieberman is in the habit of trying to cut civil and constitutional rights left and right...and up and down.

 

[masher]

"In order to ensure the President doesn't fall into the wrong hands, we have -shot- the President."
XD This is what I imagine.

 

[oktalist]

Sites like "The Escapist" represent unsecured information conduits if nothing else. I could for example hop on private mail here and exchange information with a Chinese Agent unobserved. In an actual full war, you'd be surprised how much the most trivial information can matter. I for example could glean things that would be useful to an enemy nation just by being around things like "EB" (General Dynamics: Electric Boat Division), Sub Base, and Coast Guard Academy here in SE Connecticut. What boats are in for example.

The problem being that you don't have the right "wartime" mentality to see things the correct way, are anti-war, or perhaps both. The bottom line is any nation that's involved is going to have very similar concerns. Things like this are simply us being smart enough to try and plan ahead, rather than waiting until we're exchanging missles and moving fleets into position and so on to worry about our tactics. A "kill switch' is very much a tool we should have in our arsenal.

This was exactly one of the reasons that the Soviet Union would use to justify banning paper-based "unsecured information conduits", when the real reason was to suppress political opposition to the ruling party. The US Constitution protects the rights of the people peaceably to assemble; I think that should cover online assemblies.

The problem being that a future government could just invent some contrived situation to say "we are now in time of war" if it would serve their purposes to throw the switch for some more sinister reason.

 

[Altorin]

yeah, this totally seems like a great idea.

lol

 

[ma55ter_fett]

time to put lieberman into the home

A nice white room with pillows on the walls.

Or a basement in Iraq's Kandahar provence, I don't care which.

 

[LiftYourSkinnyFists]

I hope that doesn't count for the whole internet, but got to think how much that would effect everywhere else in the world.

 

[Altorin]

Don't scoff at the risk this could be Cyber 9/11 times 1000!

The trouble with the internet is it was designed to withstand Nuclear attacks. You can't stop the signal.

In 12 pages it's probably been done, but I can't resist - ITS OVER 9/11000!!

 

[Striker501]

I can not take this seriously. It makes you wonder just how smart you need to be to be a senator.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

I couldn't disagree more, they have the largest empire in history, their military is the biggest organization on the globe.

I think a man named Genghis Khan would like a word with you.

If you said currently, I wouldn't have cared, but in history, sorry mate.