Naw bro, stop trying to take away people's things and they won't act like cornered animals. Try address the real issue, why crime is happening in the first place.andy_h007 said:
U.S. Senator Says Videogames Are Worse Than Guns
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Don't get me wrong TornadoADV. I'm not for banning all guns. I know several people with hunting rifles for different types of game depending on the season. I myself have a rifle for home defense. I just don't see the need for automatic weapons and high capacity clips to be in the hands of average joe's.TornadoADV said:
I mean seriously, do you really need an AK-47 for "home defense". A short distance shotgun does just fine and won't penetrate your home's walls and possible injure innocent people.
As far as crime happening in the first place, I think a ban on all guns would do this country good.
There I said it. The argument is that bad guys will always get their guns anyway, but good citizens with legally owned guns are there to protect people, right? When have you ever heard of a good citizen gun owner fighting off some lunatic carrying an automatic machine gun with their 9mm pistol?
Never happens. All you hear about is a terrible shooting with so many innocent people killed. (Which personally makes me sick, as I could never do anything like that to any living thing.)
So why do more guns in more hands make us safer? I beg you to give me a reason.
No hate against you at all TornadoADV, i just have a strong opinion on the subject.
He looks like he has clearly played plenty of video games in his time.
He talks about limitations. Isnt is like a paradox or a contradiction or something that you can be limited to something called an "amendment".
I'm not American can someone please correct me if i'm wrong on this?
He talks about limitations. Isnt is like a paradox or a contradiction or something that you can be limited to something called an "amendment".
I'm not American can someone please correct me if i'm wrong on this?
Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, sir. But in the end this senator is simply trying to shift the blame of death from actual guns that caused the death to video games which he feels were a cause of the person picking up the gun.FrozenCones said:
As horrible as it is, I had a good laugh at this. I can imagine someone saying this with a deadpan expression.TecnoMonkey said:
So, while the amount of people playing games is somewhere in the high millions, can we expect a good million cases of mass killings, Mister Republican? Meanwhile, how about you actually answer the question you were given, rather than changing the subject to something, I can assure you, is completely unrelated. But then, we disagree on a lot of things, don't we?
I'm not trying to defend these remarks, but at least he realizes he is limited in what he can do. The writer of the article is pushing his own agenda with remarks like "unfettered access to semi-automatic rifles" which is not true. Rifles were used in about 1% of murders, about the same amount as baseball bats. Banning rifles will accomplish nothing, and the politicians know it. Violent video games and movies probably have an affect on already deranged individuals, but why should all the normal people have to be punished for what the crazy people do?
Agreed, but politicians get elected because they can side step the real issues and shift the public's focus to something much less important.Volan said:
Sometimes I despise being an American. I love the idea of America but lately the rulers of this country have been turning it into a royal f.cking mess. We could be so much better.
Oh dear. I apologize for posting on this same position but I can't help it.gsf1200 said:
OT: gsf1200, I'm not sure what country you live in. I live in the USA. I know a few places personally that I can get fully automatic weapons without much hassle. That's the problem.
Sure people can kill with a 5 shot semi auto rifle just like they can with a 30 shot AK-47, but why make it that easy for them? Shouldn't we at the very least limit the types of guns people can own in this country (USA)?
Blaming video games is a winner the way the nation is polling.
The republicans think that going with the polls will win elections, even if they lose any principles they ever had. This alienates certain members of their base and will drive the GOP into the abyss.
All they have to do is say yes to freedom and not attack the constitution and that might actually fucking inspire someone.
I am reminded of a certain quote from tech in Civ 5, if you chase two rabbits you will lose them both. I think this could apply here.
The republicans think that going with the polls will win elections, even if they lose any principles they ever had. This alienates certain members of their base and will drive the GOP into the abyss.
All they have to do is say yes to freedom and not attack the constitution and that might actually fucking inspire someone.
I am reminded of a certain quote from tech in Civ 5, if you chase two rabbits you will lose them both. I think this could apply here.
And on the other hand you have several other elected officials who absolutely hate guns pointing at the Second Amendment as some kind of annoying block that prevents him from getting rid of the objects of his hate...so it's a wash and in the end everyone loses.DrunkOnEstus said:
Yes, what this guy is saying is absolutely stupid and no one should be paying attention to any of these sorry sacks of shit, and by that I mean any politician that opens his mouth ever.
Fully automatic weapons have been banned since 1986. You can still buy fully automatic weapons made before then, but they carry price tags in the range of $20,000+ on a good day BEFORE all this new brewup about gun laws. The majority of bolt action hunting rifles operate in calibers well above that of the 5.56mm(.223) and the 7.62mm short round you see in semiautomatic assault rifles.andy_h007 said:
Really, unless they have a Class 3 license you should call the BATFE, fully auto is banned since 1934. You not reporting this could be misconstrued as a accessory after the fact.andy_h007 said:
Also have you ever filled out a 4473? If you haven't you shouldn't talk about easily getting guns.
I giggled more than I should have at this.Ne1butme said:
In all honesty, it's not the hate against video games that gets me riled up. Oh no, that passed long ago, the Republicans are just people that trail along the sidelines picking up snippets of stuff the was popular once and try to use it to make themselves look good. Really, if it were just this I'd not care at all.
What REALLY gets me is that now he's saying games, and thus gamers, are much worse than gun nuts. Wow. Excuse me for just sitting in my house occasionally getting into debates. That's obviously ruining lives a great deal more permanently than being shot or anything. I mean Christ, even witnessing a shooting scars you. Just because video games are violent, it doesn't mean people learn from them. if anyone does, it's because they are fricken' neanderthals who really shouldn't be allowed outside their cages.
It's a good thing these people are ignored, else this movement would actually be listened to. Then we'd be stuck in the same state games-wise as north korea, and if that happens I may just get more violent towards my government than a gun nut.
He's right you know. Everyday more then a hundred Politician Ninja's are murdered by Game Ninja's, using the discs as shuriken and blocking oncoming shuriken with their game cases.
There's a reason why we still use DVD's, because you get 3 in an FF13 case. That's three times the shuriken for the single price of a Blu-Ray shuriken. Ever wonder why Game Cube's games were so small? Simple. To hide them more easily. Cartidges used to be used in the olde days, but they were just to clunky and it didn't feel right. Sure they had less time to load, but you couldn't use them to reflect sunlight to blind enemy ninjas.
Seriously though, could this guy be any stupider? Gah, even if he tries to connect games to these murders, how many of them had a gun rather then a controller?
There's a reason why we still use DVD's, because you get 3 in an FF13 case. That's three times the shuriken for the single price of a Blu-Ray shuriken. Ever wonder why Game Cube's games were so small? Simple. To hide them more easily. Cartidges used to be used in the olde days, but they were just to clunky and it didn't feel right. Sure they had less time to load, but you couldn't use them to reflect sunlight to blind enemy ninjas.
Seriously though, could this guy be any stupider? Gah, even if he tries to connect games to these murders, how many of them had a gun rather then a controller?
TornadoADV, indeed full auto rifles have been banned for close to 3 decades. However, any semi automatic rifle can be made full auto very easily. All you have to do is shave down the firing pin, or even easier, place a rubber band on a specific mechanism in the gun.
That's how ridiculously easy it to get a full auto gun here. That's why I feel like we need stricter gun laws.
To aelreth, you misunderstood me. I don't know anyone with a fully automatic rifle, but the people I know know how to make their rifles full auto (it's fairly simple actually) and I don't want them or anyone else to do that. I never want to own a fully automatic weapon myself. I'm actually planning to sell my rifle as I feel it is too much for home defense.
I'm simply stating that anyone who does research can figure out how to turn a semi-auto rifle into a fully-auto rifle fairly easily. That's why I think that these types of rifles should be banned.
Once again, I do not condone automatic rifles or heavy caliber machine guns.
How many calibers do you really need to take down some poor weak intruder?
That's how ridiculously easy it to get a full auto gun here. That's why I feel like we need stricter gun laws.
To aelreth, you misunderstood me. I don't know anyone with a fully automatic rifle, but the people I know know how to make their rifles full auto (it's fairly simple actually) and I don't want them or anyone else to do that. I never want to own a fully automatic weapon myself. I'm actually planning to sell my rifle as I feel it is too much for home defense.
I'm simply stating that anyone who does research can figure out how to turn a semi-auto rifle into a fully-auto rifle fairly easily. That's why I think that these types of rifles should be banned.
Once again, I do not condone automatic rifles or heavy caliber machine guns.
How many calibers do you really need to take down some poor weak intruder?
oh wow..the stupid levels...heres my take on the issue
is it possible a videogame could inspire a psycho to kill?..YES
is it possible the bible could inspire a psycho to kill?...YES
will you find america banning bibles or comparing them to guns?...NO
is it possible a videogame could inspire a psycho to kill?..YES
is it possible the bible could inspire a psycho to kill?...YES
will you find america banning bibles or comparing them to guns?...NO
The only real advantage that guns have over video games is the fact that you are less likely to be called a ****** by a 12 year old at a gun range. But then again, there is the mute function.
My mother was killed by a unicorn you heartless...*runs away sobbing*bazaalmon said:
I can't remember all the ridiculous crap Sen. Alexander has been behind, but this is nothing surprising. Just frightening, since people think he's worth VOTING for.
Seriously, people like this just make me want to go out and reenact my favorite video games via shooting a bunch of people.