Ubisoft Kills Ghost Recon: Future Soldier on PC

[4RT1LL3RY]

I'm trying to think of any games I have pirated as a PC gamer, but am currently unsure about if what I did was wrong. Example, I got Unreal Tournament 99 from a friend on a flashdrive way back in high school, I liked it and it was only available bundled with UT2004, so I bought that. It also came with a CD with the awesome music for the games.

I legally purchased a copy of the original Bioshock and played using a crack that removed the 5 activation limit and removed the malware known as Securom as well.

Do you know why I use piratebay.org? Because of assholes like you and EA and Bioware putting less, and less efforts into your games and I am not willing to pay $60 per-annual sequal. The Madden Effect/CoD effect has killed creativity and the greed companies like Ubi and EA display drive me to Pirate Bay games before I buy them.

No, you use pirate bay because you are an immoral leach on an industry that you continue to complain about. If you are not willing to pay for something, that doesn't give you the right to steal it.

I think the main reason for piracy tends to be how easy it is to do it and how unfortunately in multiple cases it is better. There are plenty of people who are pirates who download games with no though to ever buy them. There are also those who pirate the game and buy it later, Steam is a great system where developers make their money; its easy on the consumer in terms of DRM, and I can just wait for a sale if theirs something I want. If it is easier, and less inconvenient to pirate something they will do it. I am fine with online registration for multiplayer games, but constant internet to be able to play a single player game; along with not being able to save locally is stupid.

Torrents are meant for Linux distros and legally questionable anime fansubs.

 

[mooncalf]

A tear for BG&E2 and now I'll think of you no more, UbiSoft. :/

 

[Darkmantle]

I hope everyone does what i do.

DON'T PLAY THEIR STUPID F2P NONSENSE

show them we don't want their games free. I pray PC gamers will not play this game, I want ubisoft to eat it's own words.

I also want people to pirate the free game. Hell, if you want to try it, pirate it and set up a private server, JUST TO PISS THEM OFF.

PLEASE do this! for the industry!

 

[bkd69]

Very well, Sebastien.

5% of your games players want to give you money for your games? I rather suspect that's significantly below the industry average, and in that case, well, that's *your* problem, and nobody else's.

And if that's the same rate across the industry, and those 5% of paying players aren't enough to cover your development costs, as they apparently do at EA, Valve, Positech, Introversion, Stardock, THQ, Bethesda, et al, then again, the problem is you.

Of course, the most interesting part is what goes unsaid here, and that's the concession that all their much vaunted DRM measures are as for naught.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

I don't think they'll step ENTIRELY out, but Ubisoft will probably make a game in the coming years just for the PC over the fact that they want more money.

They've more or less said their plan is to try and dive into the Free To Play cashpit that PCs are seeing at the moment.

Got to say, batshit way to go about it...

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Guys, PLEASE buy Assassin's Creed Revelations and let the figures show them we want their PC releases.

Sorry but no.

Firstly because I have no interest in the game and secondly because I don't believe in rewarding people for dickish behaviour.

 

[YepGeddon]

Why did I even bother buying RUSE, Rainbow Six and SC:Conviction... Hell I can't even play conviction due to some bullshit resolution issue and you don't see me bitching.

 

[Doom972]

OK. Just Make console games then. Don't forget ***** about used game sales.

 

[Zersy]

Is that figure true ? 95% ? If that's true then PC gamers are kind of douchy themselves.

 

[Zing]

Ubisoft sound like they're on their period or something. It's actually shameful.

 

[4RT1LL3RY]

Is that figure true ? 95% ? If that's true then PC gamers are kind of douchy themselves.

Piracy numbers are NEVER accurate, if it involves statistics you can bend it to however you want to make things look a certain way. Side note, everyone I know who is between the ages of 14-30 who owns a Wii has it modded and able to play backups.

Ubisoft is being ***** again, their games sales dropped when they announced their incredibly draconian DRM; always need an internet connection to play single player games. I know people who torrentvthe game of publishers they dislike and never play the game to spite them; I find not showing any interest the most effective. Appathy/not showing interest unfortunately doesn't work well in getting a point across, just like boycotts don't.

 

[DracoSuave]

To be honest guys, its not like this hasn't come out of nowhere. Almost every game is pirated constantly. Hell, with some older games, the only people who actually now get it is by pirating it. This isn't Ubisoft being just dicks. I mean sure, they overreacted, but they do have a legitamate reason. Take this as a lesson. PC people (and I am included in this), BUY GAMES, DONT PIRATE. You are ruining the market more than Call of Duty or Madden ever will.

But the problem arises when the pirating minority is addressed by DRM.

I mean, I actually have the fucking $50 Shivering Isles disc AND the $50 Fallout 3 disc that I bought at Best-Buy some odd 4-6 years ago, AND I STILL have torrented .iso versions saved to my external drive, because the DRM on the discs WON'T LET THE GAMES FUCKING RUN.

This isn't actually software piracy, and this isn't what people concerned with game sales consider to be software piracy.

Downloading and circumventing DRM to make games playable aren't the issue; it's people who steal the game. Non-customers.

I mean, they're ruining their own market. People pirate on consoles, too, it's just that they don't get as much attention.

That's because it's not even half as easy. You have to physically modify your console, generally paying someone to do it. Then you have to copy the files to a media the console can read or use. It's just not as prevalent. It's comparing apples to orchards.

It's also hard to find PC games. I mean, I go to Gamestop looking for a game, and they don't have it, because they literally get ONE copy of the game for PC. That's it. ONE COPY. Once it's gone, you can't get it there. You have to go online. For some people (like me) who don't have credit cards, or $110 on hand to spend on a $100 pre-paid Visa Debit to buy a game online, we're not left a lot of options.

The thing is, how long is that one copy sitting on that store shelf? What is the turn-over for that single copy? You can see the dust on some of those 'one copy' games.


That said, UbiSoft's DRM schemes DO suck, horribly.

 

[Aprilgold]

Is that figure true ? 95% ? If that's true then PC gamers are kind of douchy themselves.

Actually, no one knows the correct numbers, its usually estimation, about a week or so back they said it was 50%, so they obviously are lying about their figures a large bunch are false.

Mainly, their never correct, but we can only estimate.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

I mean, they're ruining their own market. People pirate on consoles, too, it's just that they don't get as much attention.

That's because it's not even half as easy. You have to physically modify your console, generally paying someone to do it. Then you have to copy the files to a media the console can read or use. It's just not as prevalent.

Bollocks it's not easy. Softmodding a console is a 30 minute job at most (yeah you can still pay people to do it if you don't like playing with screwdrivers and SATA cables)... and 'copy files to media the can read'? Like... oh, a DVD or flashdrive? How is that NOT easy?

I've got a PS3 sitting within arm's reach of me that I could softmod in about 20 minutes... not that I would because it belongs to one of my nephews and he wouldn't appreciate it.

As for 'just not as prevalent'... no one knows that for sure. Far too many calculations are based on torrent numbers which ignores the anecdotal evidence that many console pirates source their material from the same place they had their console modded rather than directly sourcing from the internet so it's possible that a significant amount of console piracy goes unnoticed.

Also, if piracy really is enough to drive companies away from a platform then the few estimates on handhelds that have surfaced should have had them fleeing en masse.

 

[bkd69]

Is that figure true ? 95% ? If that's true then PC gamers are kind of douchy themselves.

It sounds rather a like a figure pulled from his ass for the purposes of a quote. But he put it out there, so let's work with it.

Notice he doesn't say whether that's an industry wide figure, or Ubi's own personal nightmare.

If it's an industry wide figure, that means that there are several dozen studios and publishers who can turn a profit, and produce sequels and DLC for their games, in spite of the fact that only 5% of the players who play their games have paid for them. But not Ubi. Or Ubi's just giving up purely on principle, but it's hard to boldly stride off on the moral high ground after you've inflicted all sorts of DRM shenanigans on your paying customers.

Or, that figure is unique to Ubi, and for some reason, those other studios have a garnered a higher payment compliance rate than Ubi has.

But really, he's just whining about the loss of Imaginary Pirate Revenue.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

But really, he's just whining about the loss of Imaginary Pirate Revenue.

He probably bitches about all the lotteries he never won as well.

 

[brainslurper]

I'm trying to think of any games I have pirated as a PC gamer, but am currently unsure about if what I did was wrong. Example, I got Unreal Tournament 99 from a friend on a flashdrive way back in high school, I liked it and it was only available bundled with UT2004, so I bought that. It also came with a CD with the awesome music for the games.

I legally purchased a copy of the original Bioshock and played using a crack that removed the 5 activation limit and removed the malware known as Securom as well.

Do you know why I use piratebay.org? Because of assholes like you and EA and Bioware putting less, and less efforts into your games and I am not willing to pay $60 per-annual sequal. The Madden Effect/CoD effect has killed creativity and the greed companies like Ubi and EA display drive me to Pirate Bay games before I buy them.

No, you use pirate bay because you are an immoral leach on an industry that you continue to complain about. If you are not willing to pay for something, that doesn't give you the right to steal it.

I think the main reason for piracy tends to be how easy it is to do it and how unfortunately in multiple cases it is better. There are plenty of people who are pirates who download games with no though to ever buy them. There are also those who pirate the game and buy it later, Steam is a great system where developers make their money; its easy on the consumer in terms of DRM, and I can just wait for a sale if theirs something I want. If it is easier, and less inconvenient to pirate something they will do it. I am fine with online registration for multiplayer games, but constant internet to be able to play a single player game; along with not being able to save locally is stupid.

Torrents are meant for Linux distros and legally questionable anime fansubs.

I torrent ubisoft games A LOT. But I always buy them on steam first, because the developers deserve their money.

 

[snfonseka]

The first sentence pretty much sums up how Ubisoft is acting with the PC crowd. I r sad. 3:

What other significant game series does Ubisoft have I wonder...

Splinter Cell, Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, Rainbow Six, Driver, Heroes of Might and Magic, Prince of Persia and Brothers in Arms comes to mind... Other than that i can't remember any game that's worth to be mentioned...

The only game I am interested in is Splinter Cell. They can keep their games for themselves, if they don't want PC Gamers' money then... so be it..

 

[Snotnarok]

Good, it probably would have required you to be doing a handstand, be online both broadband and 56k, at all times to play the game, including the menus restricted you to only having that game online and also disabling your PC from downloding anything considering their DRM policy.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

Never played Ghost Recon, no interest. While Ubisoft are really out of line with these comments and decisions regarding PC development, I couldn't care less if they didn't make them on any platform. It does lose them some of the residual respect I had after the incredible PoP trilogy.