Ubisoft Kills Ghost Recon: Future Soldier on PC

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Baresark

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I have read some of this thread. I don't see why it's turned into a moral issue about piracy. Ubisoft simply stated that they believe a large majority of PC gamers are pirates, and based on that, they will not be releasing certain future titles on the PC.

Pros:
-A large reduction of shitty console ports (most Ubisoft games are among the worst ports).
-A large reduction of games that, besides a few notable titles, are by and large not good or well made title anyway.
-No more stupid online disputes about their shitty DRM. I get that a lot of people aren't bothered by it, which is great, but it's mere existence has lead to giant flame wars within a community that needs to be more united than anything else.
-No more shitty ass Ubisoft Launcher. I mean, give me a break. Another login, for another launcher, all so I could spend my achievement points on costumes, that is retarded.

Cons:
-We will be missing out on some good titles, but not very many.
-Any publisher against a certain platform is a strike against that platform, no matter how shitty said publisher may be.
-This will act as evidence towards the piracy fallacy that is perpetuated by a small percentage of gamers.


I am a devout PC gamer. I know that console pirating is a bit more time consuming to accomplish. But it still happens. And if they want to miss out on money earned from titles that a large number of our group is looking forward to, that is fine as well. I would not have personally bought any of their pc games anyway. I have been burned by one PC title after another from them. They are not good games usually or are at very least ported in such a bad manner that the game experiences are ruined. As an example, I got stuck on Assassin's Creed 2 for over a week, thinking my game kept freezing, because the game wanted me to use the numbers to switch weapons instead of the radial menu. It was just plan bad.

I'm glad the won't sully my Steam account with too many more PC titles.

Edit: They haven't produced a good Ghost Recon title in some years anyway. So, no loss.
 

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I understand taht there is SOME piracy on PC but it's not like there isn't piracy on the console either, if I go outside and talk to random kids most of them will tell me how many PS3 games they downloaded online.
 

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I never buy Ubi products anymore since their horrible DRM systems. Seems I have no reason to stop this boycot.
 

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AlexLoxate said:
So they're combating piracy by not releasing games. Well played Ubisoft, you cunts.
Haha, maybe they'll stop making games altogether. A guy can dream.
 

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Baresark said:
AlexLoxate said:
So they're combating piracy by not releasing games. Well played Ubisoft, you cunts.
Haha, maybe they'll stop making games altogether. A guy can dream.
And while they're there perhaps they'll consider committing suicide because they clearly have no touch with reality.
 

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meepop said:
I criticized people who had forsaken From Dust on PC because of the DRM, and were going to swear off all Ubisoft games. That was not a legitimate reason, and they were probably lying anyway. But this. This is worth some rage.
People weren't outraged by the DRM so much as they were outraged that Ubisoft said they weren't going to put always on DRM on the game, then they did it anyway. So, some people may have not bought the game if Ubisoft had been honest, but they were dishonest and lied to get some sales, then blamed everyone for being mad.

As a funny aside from that, I remember vividly the horrible PR wording based around that choice. First they said they weren't going to have always on DRM. Then they released a statement that was very confusing and very hilarious that said, "The game will not have always on DRM, but you will need to be online if you wish to play it". It was a ridiculous statement.

But shouldn't pirates be blamed for this too? Not as much blame or infamy as they are getting, but still. There are very few excuses for pirating, like unless you want to try a game out and there's no demo for the game. But really, if you want to try a game, you buy it or rent it (Which isn't an option for PC unfortunately). If you don't have the money, save up like the little kid you once were.
No. Pirates should not be blamed for this. I'm not excusing the act of pirating. I'm simply saying that Ubisoft can't control piracy, but they can control themselves. If a person hears a rap song about killing cops, then goes and kills a cop, it's morally wrong to blame the rap music. Why? Because people have free will and can choose to do the things they do. You relieve Ubisoft of it's culpability by saying anyone but they are responsible for their actions or actions that inflame a situation against them. Pirates are responsible for piracy. Since all PC gamers are not pirates, you can't blame PC gamers. Ubisoft blames all PC gamers for what a few do and chooses not to release games based on that. So, when PC gamers dislike Ubisoft for acting on an emotional bias against them, then they have every right to not support Ubisoft in any way.

But, I don't see a point in saying hurtful things towards them, it is my opinion they say and do things that is hurtful towards themselves. They hurt their own image. This day and age, there are a lot of great games coming out. To point where people have the freedom to not buy games from companies such as Activision, EA, Ubisoft and all the other large publishers. For every game they don't release because they are afraid of piracy, ten are released in their place. The size of the market makes it so people like these guys don't matter. They can't corner the market except in very rare situation (EA Games and their sports titles, for instance).
 

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AlexLoxate said:
Baresark said:
AlexLoxate said:
So they're combating piracy by not releasing games. Well played Ubisoft, you cunts.
Haha, maybe they'll stop making games altogether. A guy can dream.
And while they're there perhaps they'll consider committing suicide because they clearly have no touch with reality.
Haha, they have already swallowed the bottle of pills, now they just need to chase it with some good cheap vodka to finish the job.
 

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Baresark said:
AlexLoxate said:
Baresark said:
AlexLoxate said:
So they're combating piracy by not releasing games. Well played Ubisoft, you cunts.
Haha, maybe they'll stop making games altogether. A guy can dream.
And while they're there perhaps they'll consider committing suicide because they clearly have no touch with reality.
Haha, they have already swallowed the bottle of pills, now they just need to chase it with some good cheap vodka to finish the job.
Cheap vodka indeed because anything else would be too good for them, hah. Oh, it's hilarious how they're digging their own grave in the gaming world.
 

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I agree with several posters here. They tried a unique form of DRM. People didn't tolerate it in the same way that people tolerate Steam. They were planning to use that DRM on all future PC titles, but seeing how badly it went for the first few, they figure all the others would go as badly. So rather than subject themselves to the headache, they just won't do it and stick to consoles.


Good thing I never was interested in any of their titles anyway.
 

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Bah.. who cares.. Ubisoft is not the Ubisoft of ye olde days. Ghost Recon has turned into total crap, so who cares?

Ubi... BAH to you.
 

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I dont think Ubisoft liked EA getting so much bad publicity and i thought no one could ever beat EA... but this certainly goes to show that its possible.

Now if EA, Activision and Ubisoft united... called themself "the Trinity of Evil" or something...

...that would be great since Valve would have to put on their shining armor and decapitate their heads with their Greatsword of greatness
 

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Im pretty much done with Ubisoft at this point, they ever think that maybe they should just test one of their games (A good quality one) without any form of DRM and see whether it's successful or not instead of constantly worrying about the DRM boogie monster, hell, they have nothing to lose if 95% of us are apparently thieves.

But of course, they won't do that because they've just shown us exactly how little they think of us, to them we're all a bunch of bottom-feeding thieves that would steal anything not nailed down if given the chance.

Now I know what it feels like to be a traveller, those poor bastards get it so bad and yet most of them are decent people in my experience.
 

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AverageJoe said:
Guys, PLEASE buy Assassin's Creed Revelations and let the figures show them we want their PC releases.
Do I want to spend money on a crappy series that wasn't good even from the start? The answer is no, and even if I did like it I wouldn't fucking buy it now after this statement, and neither should you.
 

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OutrageousEmu said:
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OutrageousEmu said:
Do you have any fucking idea how premium pricing actually works? Like, does the concept work in your brain, or do you just do it to troll?
It would seem you weren't initially being sarcastic, then. I weep for the world.
Ah yes, the "I am acting aloof because I don't know what I'm talking about so I'm going to act superior so I don't have to explain myself" tactic, a favourite of trolls. Evidently I got my answer.
I explained myself rather well; you have done nothing of the sort. If you don't get how basic business works that's too bad.
 

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they just like going from potential sales: 10s of 1000s to potential sales of: absolutely fucking none!
 

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So people like me that buy games and go without playing games if I can't afford them get shafted too? You don't even make my favorite games anyways Ubisoft. Go on believing console owners don't pirate your games.
 

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I, for one, can live without Ubisofts gaming contribution. Their only gaming franchise worth playing in the last few years was Assassins Creed and even those games I can live without. So yeah Ubisoft go ahead and ditch pc-gaming all together.
 

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OutrageousEmu said:
Wolfram01 said:
OutrageousEmu said:
Wolfram01 said:
OutrageousEmu said:
Do you have any fucking idea how premium pricing actually works? Like, does the concept work in your brain, or do you just do it to troll?
It would seem you weren't initially being sarcastic, then. I weep for the world.
Ah yes, the "I am acting aloof because I don't know what I'm talking about so I'm going to act superior so I don't have to explain myself" tactic, a favourite of trolls. Evidently I got my answer.
I explained myself rather well; you have done nothing of the sort. If you don't get how basic business works that's too bad.
I get how basic business works - premium items need to be those that are shown publicly. Since you can't wear fucking videogames out in public, thats the most goddamn retarded fucking argument any inbred hick could ever come up with. Notice how Fucking The Kings Speech and Transformers 2 had the exact same ticket price despite the insane difference in the levels of care oput into one over the other - because ENTERTAINMENT DOES NOT GET A FUCKING PREMIUM ATTACHED TO IT.
First off you need to calm the hell down. This is literally the first time you've bothered to even try and explain yourself in legible english.

Now obviously video games often do get a premium attached to it - Special Editions and the like are extremely common.

But that's not even the point. Saying "I'd pay a premium" doesn't mean anything close to what it means for clothes or whatever. It's more like how you pay a premium to view a movie in 3D compared to regular. Or for example, you pay one premium to drive a BMW instead of a Honda, but within either brand, you pay a "premium" (the kind I mean) to driver a nicer model because it has more stuff in it. "Premium Pricing" means artificial inflation, paying a premium for better content does not mean that - it means paying more for more.

The premium cost refers to the game being a lot bigger, having a lot more stuff in it, or whatever tickles your fancy. I'm not saying they charge "extra" for it like a brand name shoe, I'm saying they charge more because it cost more to make - and likewise Activision can sell COD for a lot less because it cost less to make.