Ubisoft Kills Ghost Recon: Future Soldier on PC

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Nurb

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"Our Prince of Persia sequel didn't sell as well as we think it should... PIRACY!"
"Don't like our always-online DRM? Well fuck off if you don't like it!... Oh why is no one buying our games on PC? Must be PIRACY!"
"Customers take it personally when we call most of them thieves... typical PIRATES."

Their cuntiness alone has ensured more people will pirate their games out of spite now, and I hope they go bankrupt.

We're supposed to have sympathy for them too, even though by their own arguments they deserve to die off. Piracy is killing the PC market, but the response to any legitimate complaint is to stop buying PC games if we don?t like it. If we act rationally and refuse to throw the baby out with the bathwater and download a game, we're killing them. What would they rather have us do? ?Talk with our wallets? and not play the games at all, and certainly don?t buy them. Which would also kill the industry, but that?s somehow the more moral solution. Either way the industry is basically daring us to kill it.

Most people are talking with their wallets, which is why the market is shrinking. And what message does the industry take from that? That they should do something different? Nope. The message is that they should simply move to consoles due to a shrinking market they surely can?t be responsible for. So even when we do follow the "moral" way, nothing changes. So the decision, from our view, is between "No Games, Dead Industry" and "Pirate Games, Dead Industry".

In other words, if the industry isn?t going to get the message no matter what we do and is going to die either way. Should I feel sorry for Ken Levine not getting paid for a good game? Nope. The industry doesn?t care about screwing us over in the name of unproven piracy damages, so I don?t see why we should care if a few decent developers get crushed in the name of taking down an industry that could not possibly care less about doing proper business with us.

 

Seventh Actuality

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All of this Ubisoft bullshit would annoy me a lot more if I could remember the last time they released a title I actually wanted to play.

Oh well, guess I'll just keep giving my money to Valve and EA.
 

Frankster

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Damnit ubisoft, i know we have some differences (DRM which in some cases, PREVENTED me from playing your game. As in i bought the game, and couldn't play it due to it wearing the DRM equivalent of a chastity belt. Ive avoided ubisoft games on the pc since then) but when it comes down to it, i'll always have sympathy with ya, ya made some really great games in the past i'll never forget.

But cmon man...You trying to alienate every single pc player out there?
Seems like burning bridges to me.

Damnit ubi, you used to be cool ¬¬
 

Woeps

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Darn... Oh well steam is having great sales at the moment so I probably wont have anytime for the ubisoft games anyway.. Though I do wanna play might and magic and from dust.
 

DRes82

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So what games does Ubisoft actually produce that I, as a PC gamer, would be interested in?

Last one I can remember that I played was HoMM 3? I think. HoMM is tired a boring now, so...I won't buy the newest one. The first Assassin's Creed was great, but I played it on Xbox, not PC. The next installments of AC weren't innovative enough to get me to buy them.

SO yeah, what do I care if Ubisoft gives up a huge part of their market base? They don't produce anything worth my time anyways.

Oh and I, for one, was definitely not bitching about not being able to play that game they just released on my PC. I couldn't give any less fucks. I'd never even heard of it before yesterday's article. And Ghost Recon? Really? They still make that game? I thought it died along time ago.

Ubisoft apparently is run by a bunch of pretentious, self-righteous assholes.
 
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Also, didn't you say in the past that your DRM was a success [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/111951-Ubisoft-Says-Always-On-DRM-A-Success]?

If it is, then why are your games pirated so much? Which is it Ubisoft? Is your DRM a success and cuts back on piracy, or is it a complete failure just like everyone said it would be?

Seems it was a complete failure.

Holy shit, it seems that this method of treating your customers like shit is a bad idea. HOLY FUCK THAT'S A SURPRISE.

I wonder how many pirate your games just to get around your shitty DRM. Not to mention pirating just to spite you.
 

Wolfram23

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I feel like game developers never took basic business. Pretty sure we learned this in highschool:

-As price goes up, sales go down.

-As price goes down, sales go up.

-Find happy medium

-Profit!

Maybe they should stop charging $60 for every. single. 8 hour. campaign. WTF. A game like Skyrim of course is 100% worth the price of admission. But Portal 2? Good game, yes, but not work $50 (on PC). I waited for a sale then bought it for what I felt was reasonable, and I did not pirate.

Some games like BF3 and MW3 are only going to be worth full price if you spend hours upon hours online. Then you're paying for long term service.
 

Frankster

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Irridium said:
Also, didn't you say in the past that your DRM was a success [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/111951-Ubisoft-Says-Always-On-DRM-A-Success]?
Oh it was a massive success allright. Sometimes you couldn't even play the game you bought and paid 40 english pounds for....
 
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Nurb said:
"Our Prince of Persia sequel didn't sell as well as we think it should... PIRACY!"
"Don't like our always-online DRM? Well fuck off if you don't like it!... Oh why is no one buying our games on PC? Must be PIRACY!"
"Customers take it personally when we call most of them thieves... typical PIRATES."

Their cuntiness alone has ensured more people will pirate their games out of spite now, and I hope they go bankrupt.

We're supposed to have sympathy for them too, even though by their own arguments they deserve to die off. Piracy is killing the PC market, but the response to any legitimate complaint is to stop buying PC games if we don?t like it. If we act rationally and refuse to throw the baby out with the bathwater and download a game, we're killing them. What would they rather have us do? ?Talk with our wallets? and not play the games at all, and certainly don?t buy them. Which would also kill the industry, but that?s somehow the more moral solution. Either way the industry is basically daring us to kill it.

Most people are talking with their wallets, which is why the market is shrinking. And what message does the industry take from that? That they should do something different? Nope. The message is that they should simply move to consoles due to a shrinking market they surely can?t be responsible for. So even when we do follow the "moral" way, nothing changes. So the decision, from our view, is between "No Games, Dead Industry" and "Pirate Games, Dead Industry".

In other words, if the industry isn?t going to get the message no matter what we do and is going to die either way. Should I feel sorry for Ken Levine not getting paid for a good game? Nope. The industry doesn?t care about screwing us over in the name of unproven piracy damages, so I don?t see why we should care if a few decent developers get crushed in the name of taking down an industry that could not possibly care less about doing proper business with us.

Also, this. This so hard. Nurb, if I could, I would kiss you.
 

Zipa

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I guess I will give my money to Valve , GOG , Gamersgate and EA then who all seem to not be utterly failing despite all the piracy. Ubisoft can huff a dong.

Maybe if they didn't use such shitty DRM that treated everyone as a pirate (IDE does not = piracy you morons ) then people wouldn't have to pirate or download a crack to get the product they have paid for to work.
 

Harker067

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Jim over at destructoid makes a good point... either the drm is working and piracy isn't an issue or all the drm is a complete waste of time and 95% of their gamers are pirating them? Which is it?

and let me just say.... mmmmmm gog <3
 

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Not like I care, since Rainbox Six and Ghost Recon haven't been good since... well, a long time at least, and the "piracy lolol" excuse is bad.

More like "We stopped making good PC ports besides AC games and nobody is buying them, WHYYY oh right, let's blame the pirates".
 

Blind Sight

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I'm just going to go ahead and theorize that this has more to do with PC gamers resisting Ubisoft games thanks to poorly designed DRM.
 

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Jeez, would you lot get over yourselves - no company owes you anything. If ubisoft think they can make a better return from console dev then that's their choice, not yours - and if you think their games suck, really why do you care? Honestly I'll never understand why private companies like this, EA, activision etc, are hated so much, why we get all this reactionary complaining, which is frankly, a little embarrassing to read (are you all 12 or something?).

What it comes down to is this: If you don't like their products, then don't buy them. If you think you can do better, then go ahead and do better.
 

The Woolly One

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Wow, that is a bit of a dick move by Ubisoft. The PC does have far more widespread piracy than consoles, but it can't be anything like the 95% figure they're suggesting.

Oh well, I'm a console gamer anyway so this isn't a big deal for me. The only Ubisoft games I play are Splinter Cell and Far Cry. Its a pity that PC users will miss out on this, but its hardly the end of the world. There are still plenty of better games out there for you guys to enjoy.
 

Versuvius

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-|- said:
Jeez, would you lot get over yourselves - no company owes you anything. If ubisoft think they can make a better return from console dev then that's their choice, not yours - and if you think their games suck, really why do you care? Honestly I'll never understand why private companies like this, EA, activision etc, are hated so much, why we get all this reactionary complaining, which is frankly, a little embarrassing to read (are you all 12 or something?).

What it comes down to is this: If you don't like their products, then don't buy them. If you think you can do better, then go ahead and do better.

What, being insulted and being called a load of thieves because they make shit? They make shit and call us thieves because they don't sell? We aren't entitled to be a bit angry that they are spouting wank to cover their arse? I'm not angry about their shitty games, i don't care. What gets me is people like you who bend over for corportions to defend their stupid practices and insulting prospective buyers (Who also own fucking consoles, they people they claim is the real market) who won't buy their console tripe either. Christ some of you people must think with your arseholes. Lets insult these PC gamers and sell to console gamers! ...what do you mean PC gamers also own consoles? UNPOSSIBLE! THEY ARE ALL THIEVES! Hey Ubisoft, you won't be aquainted with my PS3 or my money any time soon.

Rant over, lulzing at silly people.
 

Darkbladex96

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Im not down with all this fanboy, whiney kid BS.

GR: FS on 360 will be the shit.
GR: O on PC will be the shit.

Want future soldier get a console. Want a F2P GR online shooter. Get a PC.

As long as both are quality products i could care less who they hate or spite.
 

Wolfram23

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OutrageousEmu said:
This is the industry that charged $60 for a 30 second Atari game. How in the hell do you say a game with 70,000 times the playing length and several trillion times the content should be worth less than that?

They did find a happy medium - $60. The price should be around $110. And for games like Skyrim, $230.
Or, you know, the Atari game should have cost $5.

PS: I'm fairly sure you're being sarcastic, but I felt I needed to reply in case you're actually that stupid. Hard to tell sometimes.
 

The Woolly One

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Wolfram01 said:
OutrageousEmu said:
This is the industry that charged $60 for a 30 second Atari game. How in the hell do you say a game with 70,000 times the playing length and several trillion times the content should be worth less than that?

They did find a happy medium - $60. The price should be around $110. And for games like Skyrim, $230.
Or, you know, the Atari game should have cost $5.

PS: I'm fairly sure you're being sarcastic, but I felt I needed to reply in case you're actually that stupid. Hard to tell sometimes.
But OutrageousEmu is right - £50 is a happy medium.

A large pizza costs about £12 and lasts maybe an hour. A decent meal can cost £40/£50 and lasts a couple of hours. Even a short game like Portal 2 provides dozens of hours of entertainment for £50 - the same as four pizzas. Something like CoD or Skyrim can provide hundreds of hours of entertainment. Thats pretty good value to me.
 

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OutrageousEmu said:
TitanAtlas said:
mParadox said:
The first sentence pretty much sums up how Ubisoft is acting with the PC crowd. I r sad. 3:

What other significant game series does Ubisoft have I wonder...
Splinter Cell, Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, Rainbow Six, Driver, Heroes of Might and Magic, Prince of Persia and Brothers in Arms comes to mind... Other than that i can't remember any game that's worth to be mentioned...
Rayman and Beyond Good and Evil?
Didn't even reminded that those were from Ubisoft!!! xD

But yeah... i would trash every other title just for those 2 games...