It cracks me up just a little every time one of these massive publishers makes a claim like that, while digital distribution services like Steam or GOG (which uses ZERO DRM) gain greater support & profit with each passing day
Ubisoft Puts PC Piracy Rate at 93-95%
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10 million people bought AC2.
this means he thinks 190 million people pirated it.
EDIT: No seriously, where did he get those numbers? His ass?
this means he thinks 190 million people pirated it.
EDIT: No seriously, where did he get those numbers? His ass?
So the Sims 2, the best selling PC game of all time according to Wikipedia with sales numbers of 20 million has been pirated by 380 million people resulting in a total player base of 400 million. Somehow I don't think 5.74% of the world's population played the game. Take half that figure for AC2 and I still don't believe 2.87% of the world's population played through the life of Ezio Auditore.
So Ubisoft believes that even with their DRM more people pirate? They've implemented DRM that only affects paying costumers and they know it.
Also there is no way under the sun that those numbers are in any way correct. I don't think Ubisoft games were even on the list of top 10 pirated games of '11, could be remembering wrong though.
Also there is no way under the sun that those numbers are in any way correct. I don't think Ubisoft games were even on the list of top 10 pirated games of '11, could be remembering wrong though.
Actually his number is completely accurate. There's actually a guy in a shack in Nebraska who has spent his every waking hour for the last decade doing nothing but pirating Ubisoft games, burning them to disk and then using those disks to build himself a giant pirated throne throne. The arm rests are made of crappy Assassins Creed ports. =p
Bullshit, absolute bullshit. I don't know where the fuck they're getting those figures, but there isn't even a grain of truth to them.
Piracy is a matter of convenience, for the most part. The manner in which developers distribute their games, and the conditions under which the player must suffer just to play, periodically drive otherwise paying customers to the greater convenience of products minus DRM.
Steam is the often-cited example of how to do distribution well. Truth is it's just so goddamned convenient, often more so than piracy.
Nevertheless, I profoundly doubt that 95% percent of all potential customers even know how to go about gaming piracy.
Piracy is a matter of convenience, for the most part. The manner in which developers distribute their games, and the conditions under which the player must suffer just to play, periodically drive otherwise paying customers to the greater convenience of products minus DRM.
Steam is the often-cited example of how to do distribution well. Truth is it's just so goddamned convenient, often more so than piracy.
Nevertheless, I profoundly doubt that 95% percent of all potential customers even know how to go about gaming piracy.
So he is saying only 5-7% of players actually buy their game? Does that mean that if a game actually sells one million copies, he thinks there's 9.5 million playing it from a pirate copy? Am I making some fundamental error in my thinking here? That is obviously bullshit if my maths isn't horribly wrong, there's no game that gets pirate 9.5million times. Even stuff like Witcher 2 which was one of the most pirate games only had like 5 million pirate copies.
This is obviously just bullshit. Not to mention that putting a figure on all games is bullshit anyway. It's impossible to scale it that way. Firstly single player only games will be pirated more, since they don't need access to official servers to play the game. Then there's the fact that one blanket piracy rate, especially like 95% just doesn't scale. 1 million sales equals 9.5 million pirate, 2 million makes 19 million pirated. If every download really were a lost sale then these games would be eclipsing even CoD in sales.
This is obviously just bullshit. Not to mention that putting a figure on all games is bullshit anyway. It's impossible to scale it that way. Firstly single player only games will be pirated more, since they don't need access to official servers to play the game. Then there's the fact that one blanket piracy rate, especially like 95% just doesn't scale. 1 million sales equals 9.5 million pirate, 2 million makes 19 million pirated. If every download really were a lost sale then these games would be eclipsing even CoD in sales.
So how is he justifying the money they spent on their DRM if it is that INEFFECTIVE?
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Oh that is true.
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I didn't think of that. DRM promoting piracy would be hilarious if someone could get the numbers to back it up. Maybe we should just make up numbers like Ubisoft does, 'I here by say that 96%-96.88888888% of all pirates of Ubisoft titles are doing so because of the opportunity to avoid the intrusive DRM'.FelixG said:
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In other news:
Gas prices are down.
Stocks are up.
And the UN has declared World Peace forever!
In other news: Ubisoft can spout all the BS they want, but when their service makes the few games I own from them not work or work in some really backward ways, I wouldn't care if their piracy rate was 100%
Gas prices are down.
Stocks are up.
And the UN has declared World Peace forever!
In other news: Ubisoft can spout all the BS they want, but when their service makes the few games I own from them not work or work in some really backward ways, I wouldn't care if their piracy rate was 100%
*Sigh*
I'm a huge advocate for both the F2P model and the digital distribution, but when publishers start to spit out shit like this, it just makes me want punch a bag full of kittens.
Not all PC gamers are pirates.
I just think it's bullshit without any sources, I don't care about some arbitrary porcentages they sniffed out of their asses.
Also, coming from the company that not only has the worst DRM ever made (Blizzard comes close), but they made a hardware-linked DRM in ANNO 2070, just loses a bit of credibility of why some people pirate their games.
I'm a huge advocate for both the F2P model and the digital distribution, but when publishers start to spit out shit like this, it just makes me want punch a bag full of kittens.
Not all PC gamers are pirates.
I just think it's bullshit without any sources, I don't care about some arbitrary porcentages they sniffed out of their asses.
Also, coming from the company that not only has the worst DRM ever made (Blizzard comes close), but they made a hardware-linked DRM in ANNO 2070, just loses a bit of credibility of why some people pirate their games.
It takes too long to download all those copies though. So I just download it once and then copy/paste it onto my hard drive 1,000,000 times. Take that megacorporations!!Rocklobster99 said:
Where did he pull this number out of, his ass?
Ubisoft probably has a higher piracy rate then other companies BECAUSE of it's draconian DRM that forces LEGIT consumers to crack their games.
But, even then...93 to 95 percent?
That's a pants on head retarded LIE.
Ubisoft probably has a higher piracy rate then other companies BECAUSE of it's draconian DRM that forces LEGIT consumers to crack their games.
But, even then...93 to 95 percent?
That's a pants on head retarded LIE.
You should advocate that anyone who has bought a copy of these terrible DRM games just downloads a hacked copy rather than actually install it on the cd they got though. No matter how you look at it that's not piracy and it makes a hell of a lot more sense than putting up with that crap.canadamus_prime said:
