Ubisoft Teases Assassin for Next Assassin's Creed

[WolfEdge]

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You would do best to learn the difference between apathy and dislike.

But that's not what this is about, is it? Your first post clearly has quite a bit of venom in it, with spite and sarcasm to spare, in addition to being posted at all, in a thread for a game you claim you don't care about, which is in turn talking about the SEQUEL to that game, which you also claim to not care about.

For someone loaded down with APATHY, you sure seem to have an awful lot of DISLIKE.

 

[Hive Mind]

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You would do best to learn the difference between apathy and dislike.

But that's not what this is about, is it? Your first post clearly has quite a bit of venom in it, with spite and sarcasm to spare, in addition to being posted at all, in a thread for a game you claim you don't care about, which is in turn talking about the SEQUEL to that game, which you also claim to not care about.

For someone loaded down with APATHY, you sure seem to have an awful lot of DISLIKE.

All of which are assumptions on your part.

Failed assumptions I might add.

 

[WolfEdge]

words

You would do best to learn the difference between apathy and dislike.

But that's not what this is about, is it? Your first post clearly has quite a bit of venom in it, with spite and sarcasm to spare, in addition to being posted at all, in a thread for a game you claim you don't care about, which is in turn talking about the SEQUEL to that game, which you also claim to not care about.

For someone loaded down with APATHY, you sure seem to have an awful lot of DISLIKE.

All of which are assumptions on your part.

Failed assumptions I might add.

Assumptions based in your own passive aggressive actions and reactions. I'm not a mind reader, after all, and can only work with what's given to me. And let me tell you, I don't know what you THINK you're giving me, but it's almost certainly not what I'm getting.

That being said, here you are, Mr. Apathy, STILL responding in a manner BEYOND passive aggressive, in a thread you claim you don't care about, discussing a sequel you claim you don't care about to a franchise you, again, claim you don't care about. There's a disconnect, here. What other conclusion can I hope to draw?

 

[Hive Mind]

words

You would do best to learn the difference between apathy and dislike.

But that's not what this is about, is it? Your first post clearly has quite a bit of venom in it, with spite and sarcasm to spare, in addition to being posted at all, in a thread for a game you claim you don't care about, which is in turn talking about the SEQUEL to that game, which you also claim to not care about.

For someone loaded down with APATHY, you sure seem to have an awful lot of DISLIKE.

All of which are assumptions on your part.

Failed assumptions I might add.

Assumptions based in your own passive aggressive actions and reactions. I'm not a mind reader, after all, and can only work with what's given to me. And let me tell you, I don't know what you THINK you're giving me, but it's almost certainly not what I'm getting.

That being said, here you are, Mr. Apathy, STILL responding in a manner BEYOND passive aggressive, in a thread you claim you don't care about, discussing a sequel you claim you don't care about to a franchise you, again, claim you don't care about. There's a disconnect, here. What other conclusion can I hope to draw?

I find it best to not guess what a stranger's motivations are.

For one, this is a forum - I wouldn't be here if I didn't want to discuss games and gaming. You don't have to like or dislike something to enjoy talking about it. You can learn from it. You can use it as a reference. You may even change your opinion of it. Discussion isn't there for us to tell others what we think. No. It's there so we can exchange ideas and learn.

And no, I'm not passive aggressive. I'm autistic. My manner is plan and blunt, not because I am "BEYOND passive aggressive", but because I am... me.

 

[WolfEdge]

words

You would do best to learn the difference between apathy and dislike.

But that's not what this is about, is it? Your first post clearly has quite a bit of venom in it, with spite and sarcasm to spare, in addition to being posted at all, in a thread for a game you claim you don't care about, which is in turn talking about the SEQUEL to that game, which you also claim to not care about.

For someone loaded down with APATHY, you sure seem to have an awful lot of DISLIKE.

All of which are assumptions on your part.

Failed assumptions I might add.

Assumptions based in your own passive aggressive actions and reactions. I'm not a mind reader, after all, and can only work with what's given to me. And let me tell you, I don't know what you THINK you're giving me, but it's almost certainly not what I'm getting.

That being said, here you are, Mr. Apathy, STILL responding in a manner BEYOND passive aggressive, in a thread you claim you don't care about, discussing a sequel you claim you don't care about to a franchise you, again, claim you don't care about. There's a disconnect, here. What other conclusion can I hope to draw?

I find it best to not guess what a stranger's motivations are.

For one, this is a forum - I wouldn't be here if I didn't want to discuss games and gaming. You don't have to like or dislike something to enjoy talking about it. You can learn from it. You can use it as a reference. You may even change your opinion of it. Discussion isn't there for us to tell others what we think. No. It's there so we can exchange ideas and learn.

And no, I'm not passive aggressive. I'm autistic. My manner is plan and blunt, not because I am "BEYOND passive aggressive", but because I am... me.

And yet...

It seems to me you are simply so sure of your standpoint that your preconceptions are blinding the issue.

Here you are...

What is clear is that you have failed to grasp the nature of the opposing side and their argument.

Throwing barbed quip after quip...

But hey, who needs to research what they say before they post?

And guessing the motivations or strangers.

You can tell me you're an unfeeling wall of the purest truth for all it matters to me, but your tone paints a different, and in my eyes far more accurate, picture.

but because I am... me

And what you ARE is passive aggressive.

 

[m@]

That is a Russian eagle and I have long speculated that the next AC will be set in late 19th early 20th century Russia, seems i was right, also i thought the Byzantine Emperor Alexios IV may be involved due to subject 16 markings after AC1 when they went to Italy i dismissed the idea but when i see that Constantinople may feature in the next one i am sure in will be set around the early 1200's (perfect for Alteir's children) so multiple time periods, excellent just more history to sink my brain into.

The double headed eagle has been used my many other cultures/religions besides Russia. The one depicted in the teaser belongs specifically to the Greek Orthodox Church and Mount Athos, Greece.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Orthodox_Church
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Athos

sorry but its not specifically Greek Orthodox cause as I've already said its the Byzantine Eagle.

the Byzantine empire stretched over modern day Turkey and Greece, hence why it appears heavily in Greek culture/religion.

and it was through marriage between i believe Ivan the 3rd and a niece of the emperor of Byzantium that the eagle got passed through to the Russian Royal families.

 

[beefpelican]

Eh... OK, I liked Brotherhood, but come on Ubisoft, please try to move the series forward.

I hope for a new protagonist more than anything. Alteir was pretty boring and Ezio just seemed to grow more and more tedious as the games went on. Oh well.

Word. It was incredibly ballsy to completely abandon their main character from 1 to 2, and it gave them room to explore an entirely different, much more interesting personality. But now Ezio's character has grown and matured about as much as he can. Time for someone new.

 

[duchaked]

so...we have AC 1...AC 2...AC 2.5 (Brotherhood)...and now AC 2.9?

where's 3?? lol in all seriousness I was surprised at the fun I had with 2.5, but honestly...unless it's full out #3 you can bet this will be a rental :/

 

[Baldr]

sorry but its not specifically Greek Orthodox cause as I've already said its the Byzantine Eagle.

the Byzantine empire stretched over modern day Turkey and Greece, hence why it appears heavily in Greek culture/religion.

and it was through marriage between i believe Ivan the 3rd and a niece of the emperor of Byzantium that the eagle got passed through to the Russian Royal families.

No, the Russian Imperial version look like this:

The Greek Orthodox version looks like this:

I'm not denying that they are both from the original Byzantine Double Headed Eagle. I was just saying the specific version in the teaser is the Greek Orthodox version.

 

[SextusMaximus]

Let me guess, you climb buildings, run through streets and assassinate people in puzzle like environments?

My god. The originality overwhelms me.

^^ Example of why people need to think about their posts before posting. Don't want to be making giant fools out of ourselves now, do we?

Complaining about that is like complaining about another Total War game being an RTS. It's the fricking formulae used, and it works damn well!

This post is clearly coming from a place of ill-information.

If you read the discussion, you will come to understand the arguments.

No, making a fool of yourself would be bad.

You clearly missed the point of my comment judging from your response...

EDIT: To make my self clear, the post is self satirical despite having truth in it. Essentially, I'm getting my point across (that running, jumping, finding and killing IS what Assassin's Creed is about) while having a self satirical post.

In other words I wasn't making fun of my opinion, I was making fun of the way I expressed it - which was in a similar fashion. I'm not saying your opinion is wrong; I'm saying the way you voiced it was foolish...

 

[Hive Mind]

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If you wish to stand by your assumptions, go right on ahead. You are, however, incorrect.

 

[nomad240]

ungh seriously the american revolution.. * dons a gay british accent* Excuse me good sir what are you doing!

I am stealing your Battle plans for Hamburger hill!

Oohhh What a pickle! gurads dear guards shoot this man at once!

Tra! blam blam blam as he nobly rides away on his mustang gotta keep it amurican!

or better yet we can be assassinating General Howe or Sir Guy Carleton or or or even better the whole war of independance was a ruse for the evil church people and we have to HELP the british by assassinating american revolutionaries... yeah.. THAT game will sell.


and honeslty the emblem that kept flashing either before or after the numbers depending on what part of the loop you were on looked austrian in my own opinion

The american revolution? You want the Assassin's Creed game to take place there? Okay, I am all for new settings etcetera, but by god, why does it always have to be 'murrkuh that the game is set in? And if it's not america, then by god it's space america or medieval England. Because, you know, who wants to explore interesting settings such as the middle east, europe, Asia or Africa? Those are for losers! Everybody knows that everything ever has to be about America or some clever proxy for that travesty you call a country!
In fact, let's look at games by setting.

North america:
Fallout 1-2-3-NV
Saint's Row 1&2
Silent Hill (The entire franchise)
L.A. Noire
Max Payne 1&2
Prototype
Infamous
Duke Nukem (most, if not all of the games)
Homefront
Modern Warfare
GTA (The enitre fucking franchise)
A buttload of cowboy games
Bioshock (seeing as how the underwater city of Rapture was built to emulate 1950's America, and built by an american, I would say this counts)
South America:
Monkey Island (it IS set in the carribean, right?)
GUN, countless other western games (I think)
Postal 1&2
Half-life 2 (or at least a proxy representation)
Bloody likely Portal 1&2
Mirror's Edge
Europe: (Not counting 'Thedas', 'Albion'or other medieval england settings etc.)
Hellgate: London
Assassin's Creed 2 + Brotherhood

Middle East:
Assassin's Creed 1
Modern Warfare
Asia:
Yakuza (The entire franchise)
Army of two (at least one mission)
Africa:
Halo 3(Briefly, at least)


Can you see why I'm kind of pissed? What makes it worse is that you're a youngling nation with not even half as much interesting history or culture as pretty much the entire rest of the world.

So go ahead. Set another game in 'murrkuh. I'll just quietly weep for interesting settings somewhere that I don't disturb your terrorist hunting.

.... umm dude? I'm on your side.... two I'm from canada..... I thought it was obvious I was being a smart ass when I talked about stealing battle plans for hamburger hill... or donning the gay british accent (( note not the REGULAR bristish accent a distinctivly gay one) or when the hero nobily rides away from a hail of poorly aims stormtrooper bullets. or when I SAID AM-URRR-ICAN OR EVEN THE PART When I flipped to the other sdie and we can stab american revolutionaries like George washington.... and the words THAT WILL SELL noted written in a sarcastic manner..which makes me beleif you were looking for a point to ***** at some one and the piddilyness of american history.


and yes mister genius cowboy games are set in the WILD WILD WEST! in THE STATES! I've never herd of a russian cow boy! Git ah-long widdle dwoggies! or better yet french cowboys! they could ride up and down the streets of Canne and ruin their film festival. Also I think GUN counts as a cowboy game that you pointed out obviously

Calling Bioshock Amurican is stupid for the influnces do ring to that of a glitzy chicago mixed with a little Vegas. yes but the over tones and over 2/3rds of the fuckign cast were British/ german/ what ever! the only AMURICAN is fucking Ryan! you pompus douche bag! you probably didn't even read the whole of my post you know? you just saw the word american and flipped a fucking gaskette. I'm not sure if you were havng a bad day.. or don't agree with the fuck osama parties breaking out every where! but lashing out like a child isn't the answer

Modern Warfare has Americans IN THEM! they are fighting in the Bering Sea no where near the states... then its off to the middle east where some dude gets shot! America in vades there while the BRITISH S.A.S yes those scary mother fuckers go dancing through Soviet Union leaving a dance of gore to hunt one terrorist mother fucker. so I guess your right IN ONE persective of your ***** rant.

it's Modern Warfare 2 that has the Russians invading America after you do a mission as an american trying to infilrate previous terrorist group by mowing through the crowd at a RUSSIAN airport! if you didn't hear that controversy are you hiding your head under a rock?


Also you forgot American Mcgee's Alice marked under British
Command and Conquer Generals where you play as U.S.A or China or the G.L.A ( Gobal Liberation army)

Command and Conquer Red Alert 3! Russia, Japan, and AMURICA
Call of Duty one TAKES PLACE in ALL OF EUROPE!

for Japan you also have POKEMON! if your including games like Mirrors Edge then this counts too. also Izuna Legend of the unemployed ninja ( the recession hit everyone)

for space I've also got Sid Meier's Alpha Centari, Star wars jedi knight jedi Academy, Dawn of War ( 1 and 2) Sins of a Solar Empire and American Mcgee's Scrapland... none of which have the SLIGHTEST Reference to Amurrrica.... and that just the crap have laying around my computer.

you also Forgot

South America

Mercenaries 2 World in Flames
Just Cause 2
the Uncharted series ( 1 and 2

Europe
the Saboteur
and the Sly cooper collection where the SPECIFY IN THE FIRST GAME they thare in PARIS FRANCE, the BYOUS ( spelling) of Lousiiana, Asian mountains, and the clockwork caves for the final boss (( and just a side note I THINK THEY MADE THAT ONE UP!)) * double note on the smart assery here with a hint of condisention .please
you have tomb raider who lives in britan and travels ALL OVER the WORLD!.. you hear me THE WORLD!
Wolfenstein ( the remake of this game isn't even that old! how did you forget this?))

Front missions 4 had you skating between Europe and South america

and guess what's French Jeanne D'arc for the Playstation Portable! yes it is a game! YES it is turn based tactics oh and before I forget

EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TOTAL WAR GAME!
Rome, Medevil, Empire, Napoleon, Shogun


Africa

Resident Evil 5 (( THAT controversy was short lived I'm suprised I remember this one ( note condisention )

far Cry 2

Japan
the TENCHU series (( ninjas killing. not something that happens often in the states... Batman TAs not included ))

Ape Escape

the world ends with you ( if bioshock is American then this is strictly Japanese with it's districts and dirty dog statues

you lay in Fantasy you have Valkiryia Chronicles ( 1 and 2) the names change but it is SO WW2 with black haired jews) Fables ( and that is SOO england ) Monster Hunter ( all in a fantasy random world..no reference to America

and for the states FYI your missing Vampire: The Masquerade : Bloodlines where the only foriegn blood is the Necropheliac vampires.. and an angry german vampire hunter.... and a couple of british voice actors... am I missing anything... oh yeah.. what the fuck is wrong with american history! they have some of the bloodiest past most countries could never even dream of.. thanks in part to their birth happening around the same time as the gun! the first minigun was first used in the american civil war.... well the first Recorded use as far as I know. when push came to shove and they had no one to fight.. THEY FOUGHT themselves!. jumped in the tail end of two world wars ( note EVERYONE participated) failed at an attempt to curb communism, had a who has the bigger stick contest with said communist country. oh and sprinkled inbetween all of this is the emergance of organized crime the death of the last lawless land ( psst hint it was the west!) have gangs going to war against each other

AND

if your looking for Shooters strictly your looking at the united states of america the land of more disposable income since the invention of repeating rounds! these games SELL to a MARKET! why would I make a third person action game about a french revolutionary leading Paris to liberty? I being chuck everyman or tommy twelve year old want to either relax with some mindless gore or just have stupid fun...NOT that I'm saying all games should be pointed in that direction it's just selling right now... it's whats popular and if you disagree with that.. look at the sales numbers of Halo... compare it to..... ANYTHING! mix and match games if you want. THAT'S. WHATS. SELLING!


you know what... I think that needed more cap locks ha ha ha.

you know what... I'm probably gonna regret the response to this.

 

[Mr.Squishy]

Fellow Escapist, I apologize. My post was way out of line, and I won't hide behind excuses. I'm sorry. [sub]although I would like to say that my reaction was fueled by a passion to try and drive the game industry to try new and exciting locales, as well as a blind fury induced by what I perceived to be 'murrkuhn self-righteousness and blind egotism.. It's not a valid excuse, but it's a reason.[/sub] Again, sorry. I'll try not to go mental anymore.

 

[m@]

I'm not denying that they are both from the original Byzantine Double Headed Eagle. I was just saying the specific version in the teaser is the Greek Orthodox version.

Firstly the bit about Russia was for the other guy not you, I'm well aware its different i was just explaining it's origins

secondly its your use of the word 'specific' that makes you wrong. I'm not disputing it is used by the Greek Orthodox Church because it is but the reason why it is, is because The Orthodox Catholic Church started in Byzantine and took on the Empire's symbology. If you still don't believe me do a google search for 'Byzantine eagle' and you will get the exact same image as the 1 you posted even with a yellow back ground.

All i was saying in the first place was that i would assume that this is in reference to the Byzantine's not the Greek Orthodox as it makes a lot more sense, as it gives a historical and contextual setting for the game

 

[nomad240]

....whellp.... I was not expecting that lol apology accepted and I do understand your your point that you were going for. BUT like previously stated you do see why the majority of video games angle twards the american industry? and hell that doesn't stop some people still!

American Mcgee opened up spicy horse industries in Shang hai so he could work on American McGee's Alice 2 madness returns a game about Britain.

 

[Baldr]

I'm not denying that they are both from the original Byzantine Double Headed Eagle. I was just saying the specific version in the teaser is the Greek Orthodox version.

Firstly the bit about Russia was for the other guy not you, I'm well aware its different i was just explaining it's origins

secondly its your use of the word 'specific' that makes you wrong. I'm not disputing it is used by the Greek Orthodox Church because it is but the reason why it is, is because The Orthodox Catholic Church started in Byzantine and took on the Empire's symbology. If you still don't believe me do a google search for 'Byzantine eagle' and you will get the exact same image as the 1 you posted even with a yellow back ground.

All i was saying in the first place was that i would assume that this is in reference to the Byzantine's not the Greek Orthodox as it makes a lot more sense, as it gives a historical and contextual setting for the game

There are plenty of other Byzantine Eagles and images just relating to the empire they could have took. Why did choose the one that Greek Patriarch of Constantinople took as herald, taking the common Orthodox church Byzantine eagle with the cross in the left claw and the Globus Cruciger in the right claw and replace the cross with the Sword of Damocles.