UK Ad Agency: Mass Effect 3 Advertising "Not Misleading"
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Good. The ending was shit and EA/Bioware deserve the hate they get for it, but claiming it was false advertising are just people trying to use the legal system to get legally revenge for being served shit and don't entirely understand the destructive nature such a legal precedent would have on the industry.
How could it be destructive? Books and songs have been re-written before, and their industries aren't exactly crumbling.LetalisK said:
Let's not forget that the United States has almost 10 million square miles of area. It's different to say something that stays true for the whole country.Snotnarok said:
That's exactly the problem. One of the defenses for the ending was "you are sad that you didn't get a happy ending/the ending you wanted".RaikuFA said:
If we try to say what we wanted for ME3 we get accused of wanting to disrupt their "artistic integrity".
Case in point:
OniaPL said:
LetalisK said:
Can't we all just get along? The arguments haven't changed since this whole mess began. There's no point to arguing it since obviously people aren't changing their opinions at this point.
OT: I agree with the ruling, mostly because it's the same view I had. I can easily see why some people wouldn't agree with it however. Oh, and claiming they were bought off is really kind of silly.
OT: I agree with the ruling, mostly because it's the same view I had. I can easily see why some people wouldn't agree with it however. Oh, and claiming they were bought off is really kind of silly.
Okay, lets compare.Snotnarok said:I can't believe that people are still whining about the ending.
Go read the story about the guy writing about how nice america is and how he got shot by a random person while he was hitchhiking. What kind of control did he have over that.
And the ending really wasn't that bad, it wasn't great but come on. Let's compare it to this
ME3 ending = AMGIBUOUS STUFF HAPPENS. GILLIGANS PLANET. YOU WIN. BUY OUR STUFF!
They also haven't been better for it. It's not the role of government censorship to foster artistic expression, both grand and horrible.ElPatron said:
But that's exactly what is going on. Saying this was false advertising is nothing but a red herring so that their revenge through the legal system looks justified. The game gave you choices at the end and the choices you made did effect the outcome. It was a shitty and half-assed three endings with a binary 4 second optional cutscene at the end, but it was still there. So in the end it does come down to personal taste and how far someone is willing to go to get retribution for having that taste violated.
edit: misquoted, fixed
...what does a random guy getting shot have to do with this? and to be fair, the ending of megaman was more then that.Snotnarok said:I can't believe that people are still whining about the ending.
Go read the story about the guy writing about how nice america is and how he got shot by a random person while he was hitchhiking. What kind of control did he have over that.
And the ending really wasn't that bad, it wasn't great but come on. Let's compare it to this
To me, RME was one of the biggest messes in gaming consumer rights. The most difficult thing was finding out what exactly made you mad about. Take a look at 100,000 Strong or Rainfall, a 5 minite google search will tell what they wanted. Looking for RME reasons is a needle in a haystack. Heck I was even told it on a blog which I think was your actual site but I don't know. Why? Cause when I brought it up I was met with people telling me I was wrong and I don't get it. And when I ask what is the true issue, I'm met with basically "Look at the time, I left my meatloaf in the oven."ElPatron said:
So yeah, I think RME needs some order in its ranks.
Hit up youtube. There are plenty of videos explaining it, many with over 10 reasons why the ending sucked and didn't actually live up to the claims that were made before release.RaikuFA said:
By telling you I want I will be shooting myself in the foot. Because my point isn't that the game didn't show me what I wanted. The game simply didn't show anything worth seeing.
Sure, it violated my tastes because I wanted a purple explosion.LetalisK said:
?There are many different endings. We wouldn?t do it any other way. How
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can?t
say any more than that??
Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-02-bioware-mass-effect-3-ending-will-make-some-people-angry
Interviewer: [Regarding the numerous possible endings of Mass Effect 2] ?Is that
same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3??
Hudson: ?Yeah, and I?d say much more so, because we have the ability to
build the endings out in a way that we don?t have to worry about
eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is
coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot
more different. At this point we?re taking into account so many
decisions that you?ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that
stuff. It?s not even in any way like the traditional game endings,
where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got
ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and
variety in them.?
?We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon. You as a player
decide what your story is.?
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1027650/mass_effect_3_reapers_can_win_bioware.html
Two very weak strawman arguments there.Snotnarok said:I can't believe that people are still whining about the ending.
Go read the story about the guy writing about how nice america is and how he got shot by a random person while he was hitchhiking. What kind of control did he have over that.
And the ending really wasn't that bad, it wasn't great but come on. Let's compare it to this
1. Stories are not real life and don't have to play by real life's rules.
2. Comparing the ME3 ending to games with minimal or no focus on story misses the entire point of why people were upset over it.
I didn't feel the endings were horrendous, but I do find them all too similar for my liking. And how big universe changing decisions (Genophase, Geth/Quarian war) were negated at the end.
It was made for speculation.
I like to think they just rebuilt/fixed the relays (Because I find it unlikely that they went unstudied, I know how we humans are. We study the shit out of everything).
Maybe it took a few years or more, either way, I like to think the universe was united again.
And fuck the Stargazer. I mentally retconned his ass.
It was made for speculation.
I like to think they just rebuilt/fixed the relays (Because I find it unlikely that they went unstudied, I know how we humans are. We study the shit out of everything).
Maybe it took a few years or more, either way, I like to think the universe was united again.
And fuck the Stargazer. I mentally retconned his ass.
Found this image a while back, thought it was funny as hell;
http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&global=1&q=mass+effect#/d4sv254
Maybe it's just me, but it seems Bioware doesn't like giving out happy endings.
http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&global=1&q=mass+effect#/d4sv254
Maybe it's just me, but it seems Bioware doesn't like giving out happy endings.
I think that one thing is clear: Either the people arguing their case didn't play the game, or the ASA didn't play the game, or both.
Either way, it's very clear that the ASA doesn't understand the endings. At all. Nor do they see what the developers promised and how the endings correspond to developer promises and advertising.
Either way, it's very clear that the ASA doesn't understand the endings. At all. Nor do they see what the developers promised and how the endings correspond to developer promises and advertising.
At this point I just dont care.
The only thing I can do is withhold my money and watch BiowarEA crash and burn.
And get a laugh at how these people think RED GREEN AND BLUE MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
Do you hear that BiowarEA its my money running off to find greener pastures. Might want to get used to it.
How will the sales of DA3 fare after DA2/ME3? Not well probably.
The only thing I can do is withhold my money and watch BiowarEA crash and burn.
And get a laugh at how these people think RED GREEN AND BLUE MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
Do you hear that BiowarEA its my money running off to find greener pastures. Might want to get used to it.
How will the sales of DA3 fare after DA2/ME3? Not well probably.