UK Atheists Hope to Eliminate Jedi Population
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That's...really all the purpose there is, to be honest. Show off your love of metal by screwing up a national census!RUINER ACTUAL said:
Lemmy is one of the saints. Dio is your lord and savior.Jarrid said:
...at least I think.
It depends if you make contributions to the Church of the Betrayer or Our Lady of the Skull Throne.fix-the-spade said:
I'm cool with Atheists and everything: I usually get the sentiment. But I don't get this. It seems like they're trying to get people to convert, but that's one of the things they criticize religion of doing.
Until Jedi's start throwing thermal detonators in abortion clinics, molesting younglings, or start performing public force choakings on women who cheat on their husbands, I think the atheists should leave them alone.
I may get done for low content postage bit my thoughts on the subject extend to just one word:
Killjoys.
Killjoys.
Couldn't I just say Devin Townsend instead?Unabletothinkofname said:That's...really all the purpose there is, to be honest. Show off your love of metal by screwing up a national census!
Well, I'm glad my government has the decency to respect it's own principles at least to the point where they don't ask. I'd like to raise some issues with these so-called atheists: Why does your government need accurate statistics on it's citizens beliefs? Separation of church and state isn't simply to be applied to Christianity, but to religion as a whole. Who can argue against registering dissidents in a society without it? If you already accept that your government has a legitimate interest in registering what people are thinking or believing? Maybe you've heard something to the effect of "We need to gain a better understanding of this social group, to better be able to meet their needs." Mhm.
Of course, it's like trying to convince a devout Pentecost that you have no interest in going to Heaven. Here's how one devotee (creationist to boot) explained it to me:
"Well, if you saw someone unwittingly driving a car towards a cliff, and you had a bullhorn, wouldn't you use it to try and help them?"
It's compassion, you see, that these atheists and faithful believe is their motivation. They just want what's best for you.
I'm a Pastafarian myself (officially initiated even), so if someone would force an answer out of me, that's certainly what would go down on paper
Of course, it's like trying to convince a devout Pentecost that you have no interest in going to Heaven. Here's how one devotee (creationist to boot) explained it to me:
"Well, if you saw someone unwittingly driving a car towards a cliff, and you had a bullhorn, wouldn't you use it to try and help them?"
It's compassion, you see, that these atheists and faithful believe is their motivation. They just want what's best for you.
I'm a Pastafarian myself (officially initiated even), so if someone would force an answer out of me, that's certainly what would go down on paper
No, not really. The definition of Atheism is the 'Doctrine or belief that there is NO God'Conor147 said:
Agnostics believe, not that there is no God, but that the knowledge of God and the nature of things is Unknowable, or that HUMAN knowledge is limited to experience.
An Atheist Agnostic is basically a walking contradiction, as Agnostics do not dispute some form of God, only that we cannot know It/Him/Her/Them/Whatever, whereas an Atheist would tell you there Is/Was/Never will be a God or any other form of higher power, meaning the only available position on the Universe' creation was "random chance" Eg: "Poof"
Besides, most of my comment had to do with my running thoughts about all 'Religion' being a joke.
Now, don't get me wrong, my closest friend in the world is a DEVOUT Anglican Christian, and we poke fun at each other for our beliefs all the time, but my general idea is that almost all 'Religious' people are just trying to secure a safe, sheltered afterlife in a belief system they know/care nothing about.
Outright Villainy said:Couldn't I just say Devin Townsend instead?Unabletothinkofname said:That's...really all the purpose there is, to be honest. Show off your love of metal by screwing up a national census!
The Devin, The Kilmister and the Holy Diver?
Oh and not to be out done by the people who have put random quotes of people who have chosen not to follow a religion for whatever reason, as if it actually means something:
"Oh fuck you you fucking fuck!" - Strapping Young Lad, The New Black, You suck.
Well im putting jedi it may not a religion but it has some valid philosophical point to its name
Honestly i dont believe in any religion but if i were to choose i would say polytheism particularly the ancient Greek version or the God-Emperor of mankind
Honestly i dont believe in any religion but if i were to choose i would say polytheism particularly the ancient Greek version or the God-Emperor of mankind
You seem to have completely ignored the context on these versesConor147 said:hardly. this logic can excuse anything, as long as its the norm of its time. this kind of logic is used to justify the paedophilia of muhammad in the qur'an and sirat. this is pure, lazy thinking. if slavery was accepted today, still (which it would be if the bible was still an authority), would that mean slavery isnt a heinous, immoral practise? no. of course not. dont be absurd.AMMO Kid said:Because the bible was written in a time where lots of people chose to be slaves, rather than live on the streets and starve. It doesn't condone mistreatment of slaves and such, it constantly tells masters to be kind to their slaves. You have to view the bible in a historical and cultural context, you can't just throw out random comments like that or else you're bond to not understand a lot of what it has to say. hope this helpsConor147 said:
if the bible is supposed to be at all divine, it should vindicate the morality of the future, not be supplanted by it.
and dont bullshit about treating slaves with kindness. this is absurd.... nothing more than demonstrably false and easily rebutted kindergarten apologetics.
* Exodus 21:20-21 and Exodus 21:26-27 regulates the beating of slaves, and states that the owner may not be punished if the slave survives for at least two days after the beating.
* Leviticus 19:20-22 gives instructions about the sacrifices that should be made if a slave owner has sex with or rapes an engaged female slave. The slave herself is punished with whipping, but no sacrifices or punishment are required if the slave is not engaged.
* In Leviticus 25:44-46 the Israelites were allowed to buy slaves from other nations, and then hand them down as an inheritance.
* In Leviticus 25:39 buying your brother as a slave is allowed.
Exodus 21:20-21 - I have to admit this is harsh, but the beating it talks about it isn't meant to be a "I beat you cause I felt like it" beating, it's a "you stole something from me/sexually assaulted a woman in my house (quite common in old days)"
Leviticus 19:20-22 - These verses aren't talking about if the slave is raped, it talks about if the slave "carnally" sleeps with someone with full consent, so punishment is just
Leviticus 25:44-46 - Again, you totally ignore the context. It never says, "you can buy slaves from other nations," but rather "out of the sons of the sojourners who live as aliens among you." After Israel took control of the lands of the Canaanites, Amorites, Jebusites etc. some nations who currently owned the land allied themselves with or went into optional slave labor for the Israelites so that they would not kick them out of their cities and lands by force (AKA killing them off). These people knew that this was a possibility and totally consented, thus it is not unfair for them to be taken as slaves, because they chose that
Leviticus 25:39 - What is your problem here? "If a countryman of yours becomes so poor with regard to you that he sells himself to you, you shall not subject him to a slave's service." In other words, don't make your countrymen slaves!
For every 30 people who put it as a joke, there's probably 2 who really do believe in this.
Just writing them off as Atheist is just as bad as writing any religion off as such. I
understand why they do it, they think people are f%$#ing around.
But (even though i'm not gonna
try to /force lightning people), it's only a joke because it's new.
And you know what i say to that? Mormon. Dude finds f^%$ing golden plates of a more correct religion (Which, correct me if i'm wrong.), no one else saw, and people are okay with that.(I personally don't give two s%$#s what people believe in or not.) But god forbid you say you're a Jedi knight. >.>
Just writing them off as Atheist is just as bad as writing any religion off as such. I
understand why they do it, they think people are f%$#ing around.
But (even though i'm not gonna
try to /force lightning people), it's only a joke because it's new.
And you know what i say to that? Mormon. Dude finds f^%$ing golden plates of a more correct religion (Which, correct me if i'm wrong.), no one else saw, and people are okay with that.(I personally don't give two s%$#s what people believe in or not.) But god forbid you say you're a Jedi knight. >.>
Hmm, being a metal head and an atheist, I'm a bit torn. I think I would rather actually list "no religion" than put a fake one. Even by putting a fake one, money goes into the system for religons, where it doesn't need to be at all. By following the government this one time, you are more metal in the long run. That's how I see it anyways.Unabletothinkofname said:That's...really all the purpose there is, to be honest. Show off your love of metal by screwing up a national census!RUINER ACTUAL said:
That number DIRECTLY influences government policy.Haakong said:If a number on a paper is considered a "real, tangible, important issue" in your book, your life is too goodConor147 said:
PS: scroll up and read my post on REAL issues atheists should worry about.
Honestly, is it so hard to believe that, completely independently of the idea of telekinetic powers, people took the philosophy of the Jedi, as presented by Masters Obi-Wan and Yoda, to heart? There's some very zen lessons hidden in there, bearing a good deal of similarity to Buddhism or Taoism.
...not to say that most of them aren't just kidding.
...not to say that most of them aren't just kidding.